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DiSantis banning books in schools like Hitler Disgraceful. Trump: "Putin is a Genius" "Hezbollah is very smart"  | ||
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It's a shame the governor has to reign in the wokeness in the school system. I don't have a problem with removing porn material that shouldn't have been there to begin with or banning the fake history or now the Drag Queen shows for elementary school kids. My wife is a speech pathologist that works in the schools and so far our local school board has prevented that crap from happening in our schools. | |||
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I thought Hitler banned books in general, and had the public burn them. This looks like a reaction to the woke transgender crap. That and teachers not following the assigned curriculum. I thought teachers were supposed to teach the approved curriculum nowdays? No independent textbooks or unapproved stuff? They need to be approved by a librarian or such as age appropriate... I guess that's a problem? | |||
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Western civilization will eventually collapse within and the biggest reason will be…we got it too good as we are forgetting simple rules of survival | |||
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If a teacher intentionally introduces children to inappropriate material, outside the schools approved reading materials, they should face the consequences. Fire them, and prosecute. It takes a sick freak like shitsquirter to condone such actions. | |||
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Fire them sure. Prosecute? Show me a provision in the state’s penal code that would permit prosecution. Sounds like the Church prosecution of Galileo and Nicholas Copernicus to me. I will ask again, what is specifically being banned and to what age group? Ever read Hemingway or the Songs is Solomon. I read the Songs of Solomon to my not yet wife to get her hot. Stories from the gay point of view deserve telling as much as straight narratives. Sex is natural. Mused is not. However, you guys do not bat an eye at Louis L’Amour stories with killing. | |||
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Hmmmm, cowboys bad, drag queens good, eh??   Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Sec bad. Shooting people good. Maybe? | |||
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It seems all that “First Amendment, Freedom & Liberty” stuff only holds until the ChristoFascists get control. They watched how much fun the Taliban were having with their chokehold on the general population and figured they wanted some of that. I see a great opportunity here producing MAGA burkas and hijabs; they’ll be in high demand in about 18 months. When St. Exupery’s “Little Prince” and “Fahrenheit 451” are on the banned list (and they are), about the only things left will be the Bible and Bugs Bunny, and the rabbit will be running for his life. | |||
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So if you have 12 year old kids, you’d rather they watch Drag Race than read cowboy stories? Curious….  Did you actually read the link that describes what will not be allowed? You have a problem with banning pornography in grammar school, critical race theory?Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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It's collapsing and well on its way, as we discuss this. We have had it too good for too long, our survival instinct is dead. Grizz When the horse has been eliminated, human life may be extended an average of five or more years. James R. Doolitle I think they've been misunderstood. Timothy Tredwell | |||
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Cowboys are usually fine, except for that Brokeback Mountain shit, but what do you have against fast cars? | |||
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I read Hemingway at 12 and Shakespeare. Stories with sex are not necessarily pron. Sex is natural. Killing people is lit. Stories do not turn people gay. It does make people more understanding which is not a bad thing. I read the link. It takes more than sex to be porn. Or attest, just sex to be porn. Most Hemingway has descriptions of sex and even abortion. Oh dear! Let the parents choose, but no book bans. There is nothing in the link that tells us how the state has classified these books as porn. The Supreme Court cannot define porn. Would you consider the Garden of Eden porn? I read that in highschool? Get over sex. | |||
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And the Florida law is that the librarian or appropriate authority decides if a piece is literature or porn… or do you decide that the literary content of Playboy makes it appropriate fodder for grade schoolers? The law in FL came about because community standards were being flouted by educators with an agenda. The simple answer would be to fire those folks, but the system either can’t or won’t, so they came up with a system that ensures that someone evaluates for age appropriate educational content. And that is being compared to the Nazis.
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“They know it when they see it.”  Just like the folk in Fl. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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The parents are choosing for their students and children and they are directing their municipal and state governments to manage what media is available in school. If y'all wanna keep gay porn in your home library for perusal, by all means,....... We have none of that garbage in our schools and it expressly at the parents of the students direction. | |||
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You have to excuse him..... He is a wokester after all....all education. No knowledge..... . | |||
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That is not the legal test they use to answer the question. The Courts have developed a 3 part test, and a lot you call porn is not. Political fragmentation covers the foundation of the nation. How would you reach civics or a topics class wo political identity being discussed. How do you teach the Bill of Rights wo a discussion on the 14th civisAmendment and its application against the states? How can you teach literature which grabs all human experience. Now, when I was in Elementary School they did not teach literature, but English. Literature was taught starting in middle school. In elementary school, we had to read so many books a term. I read whatever I wanted as I had a 12th grade reading level in the 4th grade. They tested for that. If a parent wants to object to a particular reading that is fine. One cannot read To Kill a Mocking Bird without a discussion on the systematic racism of the time. That is a great theme of the work. A valid discussion and exercise is to compare and contrast that racism, and how have we advanced. That would include touching into the courts. There is nothing wrong with that. The Iliad & The Odyssey has incest angle. Should it not be taught? Gay stories of life are just as important as stories of straight people | |||
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That is just one more example of your wokeism.....its pathetic!!! Truly! Stories of life, no labels.....you morons buy into the labels. But without the labels you won't be able to normalize for the tiny minority....and you won't be able to recruit either.... You over educated under intelligent wokesters are just tools of the left to further divide the nation. | |||
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What information do you have that anything that could be remotely defined as pornography is being used in any Florida school curriculum? This is DeSantis kowtowing to the usual Florida whackadoodles in relation to something that is a non-issue. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Gay folks don't recruit you fucking troglodyte. And, we're not the ones promoting book-banning and condemnation of folks who have a different sexual orientation. That's you and your clown-car posse. Own it. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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BS some don't some do DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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Still loving your fellow man and leaving the judging to Jesus I see  | |||
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I remember recruiting a few young ladies into joining the heterosexual team. Apparently some straight folks do it to. Zero regrets  | |||
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It's just like some of you can't read. Sure, different stories about different cultures and social groups are an important part of an education. Primary public school is finite correct? The first twelve years of public school has time constraints, availability issues, a limited reach? So, since it's obvious the basics like reading, writing and arithmetic aren't being adequately conveyed to the students, which would you further cut in order to add your new more inclusive curriculum? Again, there has to be a prioritization of subject matter. Including anything and everything in a library, a classroom, a curriculum is a recipe for failure. When that kid turns 18, is making their own individual decisions and wishes to pursue further knowledge in,".............." Nobody and yes that's true, nobody is stopping them. Our correction system is larger than our education system. That isn't because they still teach Latin. | |||
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Education is divided into some phases. Unfortunately the system is broken. Pre-K may have some impact on morals and behavior, but that’s mostly at home. The principle object there is development of curiosity and some degree of discipline. This is generally elective, and most (not all) parents do this. It does give kids a bit of a jump up in that they are introduced to the educational system. Primary schooling is roughly K-8. This is supposed to be building blocks. Simple arithmetic, reading to gain comprehension and writing to basic communication. Secondary education is high school. Here they introduce knowledge- civics, history, the sciences, an introduction to the humanities. They also continue the basics to the standard that is generally considered the adult minimum- so grammar, arithmetic, and application of the basics are introduced. After that is post secondary education, which is where you become specialized to some extent. Formal education (college), vocational school, or some variant of apprenticeship is this. You learn information specific to your goal, and this is where critical thinking is learned. This is more appropriately where things like art, the humanities, theology, etc. belong. There is also graduate education which is further knowledge base increase and true specialization of formal knowledge. The problem, as I see it, is that the system has been subverted. In the old days, if you did well, you got promoted out early (or also, failed out if incapable). Now, there is too much attempts to push specialty knowledge at a young age (before the building blocks are mastered) on students. What is the point of teaching the contributions of a racial group before you even know what society is? Why teach chemistry before you can do the math for the required calculations? It’s become a combination of folks trying to aggrandize the importance of their field and self esteem. Face it, self esteem is the definition of individual. Schools are about making sure everyone gets the same minimal knowledge base, not about individuality. Why schools worry about this is beyond me aside from making sure that the teachers don’t do something wrong there and stifle something they shouldn’t. I really don’t get the whole idea of keeping everyone in school for a set time. They should be taught the curriculum and when it is mastered, pass them on, or when someone is shown to be incapable of mastering it, get them out. Yes, it’s a somewhat regimented approach, and I can see where in order to complete it there will be some times that a gifted kid will be bored, and a slow kid might need to take remedial attempts rather than continual individual based instruction. But to me, AP or advanced classes should be passed on to the next level of education instead of creating some sort of elite structure within the school, and once you have achieved the requirements to graduate, you do so. The book issue is somewhat related to this. If you get an elementary library, what is its purpose? It’s not to instruct the kids in art/literature/science, it is there to give kids the practice of reading to master comprehension and to model writing. You need things that the kids want to read that give them these opportunities, but it’s not about sociology or that dreck. You start pushing an agenda and you are inhibiting your purpose… unless the agenda is really your purpose. So a picture book for the first graders, to dick and Jane, to Dr Seuss, to Nancy Drew, to Harry Potter. A progression in multiple areas that fit the kids fancy. It’s more about getting them to want to read than teaching, as long as the progression is there. Graphic novels as such are a regression- they tend to be glossing the comprehension of reading by using pictures to tell the story, thus inappropriate in a school library (but fine in a community setting or at the university level in regards to teaching art…) I’m sure the current educational system has its reasons why it has deviated from this, but that is in my opinion why the system is failing. It’s no longer aimed at the goal of minimum required knowledge for the populace and is now being used for a mishmash of indoctrination, knowledge, social engineering, entertainment, and wealth building. | |||
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Calling it as I see it. You and Jesus can figure out if I'm wrong, I guess. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Awesome post. . | |||
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That's your opinion. I'm not condemning anyone you moron, never have I condemned gay people. You just love your self righteous indignation don't you lefty? . | |||
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Jim, forgive me. You are an emblem of inclusiveness. I can't imagine after reading your posts on here for years about illegals, gays and anybody else that doesn't look or believe like you that you are not the answer to everybody's prayers. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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You're forgiven Mike..... As Jesus said "love the sinner"..... | |||
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As I recall the Gospels, Jesus never actually said that. | |||
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The phrase love the sinner hate the sin is attributed to St. Augustus. The phrase itself is sort hind. It does not appear in the Bible. Jesus was not too impressed with the Religious people while he walked here. | |||
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As Jesus taught…lover the sinner. This is certainly true and the gist of JTEX’s post. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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What about sex ed? Do we want our schools teaching it at all? If it's taught at all, shouldn't it include homosexuality? I think some level of sex ed should be included, about both straight and homosexual sex--without getting too graphic. The subject should pretty much stay in sex ed class though. School library books don't need explicitness. Hemingway's "For Whom the Bell Tolls" has a sex scene conveyed entirely by dialogue and internal monologue. There are no genitals, no positions described. When I first read the book in 10th grade, I had no idea the two main characters were having sex. The line, "Did the earth move for you too?" must not have connected in my then-virgin mind. In contrast, Hemingway's "Garden of Eden," a novel considered too racy in its time for publication, shows two women in bed. They invite the main character to join them, but he declines and moves on down the hotel hall. This book is too racy even for today's high school kids. Hemingway wrote better books, which make better sampling for school libraries. Then there is "Lawnmower Boy," a book that certain recent schools had on their shelves, which depicts a group of twelve-year old boys sucking each other's cocks. I wouldn't want my kid reading smut like that. I'd feel the same way if the story included a scene of male-female couples doing 69. | |||
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I think as Roland says, some level. I do think the level should be agreed on by the municipality or local school board. I have little interest in what a big city hundreds of miles from me or a distant state or federal government thinks on the matter. I would think a utah Mormon community would see sex ed differently than a San Francisco gay community or a Texas Hispanic community. Let them decide for themselves. If those communities make poor decisions, those communities will be the first to suffer the consequences. I think that the mechanics of sex can be left to discover in OJT. I think it'd be mandatory to include instruction in STDs and safe sex supplies. "How to install a condom" I at least think is no more helpful than the mention of their availability. It should be obvious kindergartners need none of this, but then again we seem to argue about the availability of gay porn for the six year olds, so,......  | |||
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 https://www.instagram.com/p/Co...?igshid=NDk5N2NlZjQ= I wonder if they taught sex ed in that Abilene, TX school? If not, I wonder if it hindered Dr. Ball in becoming a physician in Fort Worth, TX? I can’t even believe we are having the above conversation. I bet Dr. Ball could read brilliantly, write eloquently, and was a decent mathematician. If it were possible, I would match him against any student today in the 3Rs. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I can't believe it either. It would seem quite obvious that sex ed is needed in public school, yet the Puritanical amongst us feel that the Ostrich approach is best. It boggles the mind. | |||
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Basic biology — yes. Homosexuality — no. Advanced sex ed — no. Steve, Did you have sex ex in school? Guaranteed Dr. Ball above received none in that school house. He faired well. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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One of the arguments offered against any gun control is the “slippery slope” when you start banning things. Does not that apply to books? I think it’s all political bullshit to get the loons hyperventilating. Get them sufficiently frightened that their life is being attacked, that their kids are going to be queers, and by god, they will be sending checks and voting for me. What are these books? Showing guys sucking Dick, or chicks muff diving? I don’t think any on here are for schools exposing kids to porno, but denying the realities that some men love men and some women love women is not education. Finally, do any of you have a shred of evidence that by allowing boys to be aware that there are man on man relationships, that that’s going to make the boy think, “Wow, I want to suck me some Dick?” | |||
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