Until I get there.....

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...0814cbd9d8862f&ei=52

True.

And have been known for many years.

The Saudis paid the ransom. because America asked them to.

Delivered by an Israeli diplomat.

All so Reagan can get the benefit!

Bloody hell, anyone doubts that Nigeria can't even approach American political corruption!

If Reagan really did that--left American citizens hanging under deadly circumstances, and dealt with an enemy--then I hope he's rotting in hell, where he deserves to be.

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If Reagan really did that--left American citizens hanging under deadly circumstances, and dealt with an enemy--then I hope he's rotting in hell, where he deserves to be.

You seriously think any politician cares about the people??

Keep on dreaming!

All they care about is themselves!

He also murdered so many civilians in kidnapping Noriega.

Of course, that was kept secret too.

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He also murdered so many civilians in kidnapping Noriega.

Of course, that was kept secret too.

How many civilians have died in Yemen in your little war there? Oh wait, no telling because you do not have anything resembling a free press.

Carry on with the hypocrisy......

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Originally posted by Saeed:


He also murdered so many civilians in kidnapping Noriega.

Of course, that was kept secret too.

How many civilians have died in Yemen in your little war there? Oh wait, no telling because you do not have anything resembling a free press.

Carry on with the hypocrisy......

I KNOW when I hit a raw nerve.

Actually, you are a perfect example of why so called “democracy” has failed in the West!

You are not willing to accept your own shortcomings!

An ostrich comes to mind!

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by Saeed:


He also murdered so many civilians in kidnapping Noriega.

Of course, that was kept secret too.

How many civilians have died in Yemen in your little war there? Oh wait, no telling because you do not have anything resembling a free press.

Carry on with the hypocrisy......

I KNOW when I hit a raw nerve.

Actually, you are a perfect example of why so called “democracy” has failed in the West!

You are not willing to accept your own shortcomings!

An ostrich comes to mind!

Actually I have admitted the shortcomings of both America and Democracy many times.

I have yet to hear you condemn the actions of the UAE or the failings of your monarchy.

Know what I mean Cuz?

Where is Dr. Easter with how great the 80s were with Regan?

Yes, I am going to assume this is true because I have seen this play first hand in state politics with much less at stake.

I will hope it is not true.

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Where is Dr. Easter with how great the 80s were with Regan?

Yes, I am going to assume this is true because I have seen this play first hand in state politics with much less at stake.

I will hope it is not true.

You don’t need look very far.

Who do you trust of your current rulers??

If you have time, I suggest you read about the Romans and their Senate.

Nothing new here.

Anyone in a “senate” only looks for himself!

That Reagan “hang on to the hostages” thing might have been suppressed in the U.S., but it was common knowledge everywhere else right after the election.

In pre-internet days the differences between American news outlets and non-American outlets was quite remarkable. We had U.S. family visiting shortly after the Panama invasion that was fed to Americans as being to arrest “Manuel Noriega, the drug lord”. Together, here, we watched a documentary led by two American senators (or perhaps Congressmen, I don’t recall) revealed the atrocities and war crimes incurred by the U.S. in that action; that documentary never saw the light of day in the U.S.. At least with the internet, news is harder to suppress and foreign outlets are available if people can set their ‘patriotic fervour’ aside long enough to investigate objectively.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Where is Dr. Easter with how great the 80s were with Regan?

Yes, I am going to assume this is true because I have seen this play first hand in state politics with much less at stake.

I will hope it is not true.

I wasn’t really a Reagan fan. I did vote for him in the General. He picked poor SCOTUS Justices and later supported the Brady Bill. You’ll have to get Scott to defend him. He did have excellent fiscal policy though. The 80s and 90s were great times in the US however.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Where is Dr. Easter with how great the 80s were with Regan?

Yes, I am going to assume this is true because I have seen this play first hand in state politics with much less at stake.

I will hope it is not true.

I wasn’t really a Reagan fan. I did vote for him in the General. He picked poor SCOTUS Justices and later supported the Brady Bill. You’ll have to get Scott to defend him. He did have excellent fiscal policy though. The 80s and 90s were great times in the US however.

No prob!

Head to head against the USSR, winner.
Head to head against Islamic Terrorism/ Libya, winner.

America hasn't been stronger, more united or more at peace since Reagan. Bush 1 had The Gulf War, Clinton has Somalia and Yugoslavia, "W" etc had Iraq/ Afghanistan. I like the guy a ton, but the worst mistake we ever made was electing "W".

Reagan was a Diplomat, a Commander, an Executive, a Father.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Where is Dr. Easter with how great the 80s were with Regan?

Yes, I am going to assume this is true because I have seen this play first hand in state politics with much less at stake.

I will hope it is not true.

I wasn’t really a Reagan fan. I did vote for him in the General. He picked poor SCOTUS Justices and later supported the Brady Bill. You’ll have to get Scott to defend him. He did have excellent fiscal policy though. The 80s and 90s were great times in the US however.

No prob!

Head to head against the USSR, winner.
Head to head against Islamic Terrorism/ Libya, winner.

America hasn't been stronger, more united or more at peace since Reagan. Bush 1 had The Gulf War, Clinton has Somalia and Yugoslavia, "W" etc had Iraq/ Afghanistan. I like the guy a ton, but the worst mistake we ever made was electing "W".

Reagan was a Diplomat, a Commander, an Executive, a Father.

You left out the part about closing the mental institutions and turning the nutters out onto our streets.

Prime creator of the deficit, an egomaniac who couldn't hold a news conference unless the Marine Corp honor band was playing for his Hollywood entrance, and sold America to the rich with his massive tax cuts for them. And there was Beirut as well. This list could get as long as you like.

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Where is Dr. Easter with how great the 80s were with Regan?

Yes, I am going to assume this is true because I have seen this play first hand in state politics with much less at stake.

I will hope it is not true.

I wasn’t really a Reagan fan. I did vote for him in the General. He picked poor SCOTUS Justices and later supported the Brady Bill. You’ll have to get Scott to defend him. He did have excellent fiscal policy though. The 80s and 90s were great times in the US however.

No prob!

Head to head against the USSR, winner.
Head to head against Islamic Terrorism/ Libya, winner.

America hasn't been stronger, more united or more at peace since Reagan. Bush 1 had The Gulf War, Clinton has Somalia and Yugoslavia, "W" etc had Iraq/ Afghanistan. I like the guy a ton, but the worst mistake we ever made was electing "W".

Reagan was a Diplomat, a Commander, an Executive, a Father.

You left out the part about closing the mental institutions and turning the nutters out onto our streets.

Among quite a few others, a very big mistake of Reagan's.

If true, it’s certainly a negative item and a blot on Regan’s record.

Of course, they have been claiming this happened since 1979, and there still is no ironclad proof either way.

I sure don’t see what Iran got by dealing with Regan as opposed to Carter, and Bani Sadr’s claims seem to be silly on their outset as Regan was talking much tougher than Carter all along.

I guess I’m in the boat that could see it either way. If Regan did this, shame on him. If it was subordinates doing their own thing, and Regan being lax, well that seemed to be a recurrent problem. If it’s an attempt by the left to smear Regan, that’s been recurrent as well.

Politics are dirty. Been so since the dawn of government.

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Of course, they have been claiming this happened since 1979, and there still is no ironclad proof either way.

An insider like Barnes is as ironclad as it can get.