Curious if anyone here will admit that they plan to vote for Trump in the Republican primary? It is sort of amazing. He appears to poll well yet finding someone that says they plan to support him in the primary is rarer than hen’s teeth. Let’s hear for those with the courage to openly support their convictions. Stand tall and proud.

I do not know who I may vote for in our GOP Primary. I know I will not vote for President Trump or Gov. DeSantis.

Also curious- everybody is against trump…except when they vote.

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Originally posted by MJines:
Curious if anyone here will admit that they plan to vote for Trump in the Republican primary? It is sort of amazing. He appears to poll well yet finding someone that says they plan to support him in the primary is rarer than hen’s teeth. Let’s hear for those with the courage to openly support their convictions. Stand tall and proud.

It is very odd, isn't it?

If I recall correctly, even Lane says he won't vote for trump in the primary, only the general. But, I don't recall anybody else being on record as supporting trump. I suspect what we've got is folks that will be voting against Biden, not for trump. Or, at least, that is what they will claim as a justification.

Got to say something, I guess. I'd be ashamed to admit it too.

Probably doesn't bode well for republican turnout in the general election.

Given how some of us get treated by you guys and we say no way to Trump, I can only imagine the kind of abuse that someone who would admit it gets.

My dad has said he supports Trump... although he is wavering. His justification is "look at the other side."

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Given how some of us get treated by you guys and we say no way to Trump, I can only imagine the kind of abuse that someone who would admit it gets.

My dad has said he supports Trump... although he is wavering. His justification is "look at the other side."

Versus what we get when we say we support Biden?

Please. The only difference is, we're right and you're wrong.

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Given how some of us get treated by you guys and we say no way to Trump, I can only imagine the kind of abuse that someone who would admit it gets.

. . . in some cases I suspect that is the case because some of us find such declarations completely disingenuous viewed against repeated rationalizations of Trump's behavior, constant deflection in addressing Trump's failings, and the like. I suspect there are plenty of both closet Trump supporters here as well as Trump supporters that enjoy hiding behind public pronouncements to the contrary. I am just curious why that is the case. Where is the courage of their convictions?

MM - you're right. Just look at your grocery bill, gas bill, utilities for proof.
I'm very glad that you are rich enough to not care, but some of us, (Retired, 78 years old, veteran, fixed income) may have to be doing our grocery shopping in the pet food isle. I didn't work 52 years in construction to end up like this!

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MM - you're right. Just look at your grocery bill, gas bill, utilities for proof.
I'm very glad that you are rich enough to not care, but some of us, (Retired, 78 years old, veteran, fixed income) may have to be doing our grocery shopping in the pet food isle. I didn't work 52 years in construction to end up like this!

And you seriously think Trump will care and change the cost of living and inflation? You are naive. Trump cares only about Trump, like the good narcissist that he is. Oh, and he cares about avoiding jail…

I really think, looking from the outside, that much of this is because effectively the US is stuck in a two party system.
If I put myself in the position of having a trump like person to vote for, or realistically voting only for the single opposition that will make my life incredibly difficult over the next term with no guarantee it wont end up being two terms etc, then Id have a pill to swallow whichever choice I made. One would be bitter, the other would be bitter and punative.

. . . we’re talking about the primary, lots of choices in the primary. One of three things is going on here. One, the Trumpists are too embarrassed to speak up and admit they support the buffoon. Two, the Trumpists are cowardly hiding behind ostensible support for other candidates. Three, all the polls showing Trump to be leading in the primary are completely off base. Where is Team MAGA?

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Originally posted by poprivit:
MM - you're right. Just look at your grocery bill, gas bill, utilities for proof.
I'm very glad that you are rich enough to not care, but some of us, (Retired, 78 years old, veteran, fixed income) may have to be doing our grocery shopping in the pet food isle. I didn't work 52 years in construction to end up like this!

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09...den-trump/index.html

Right now the U.S. is producing more oil than it ever did under trump yet gasoline is higher. The reason is that OPEC and other who are reducing output are causing a shortage and allowing WORLD prices to rise. Believe it or not U.S. producers base the price of their refined products on the world price for crude and not domestic production costs. Also it's a fact that refineries are less efficient in high temperature areas reducing output. I don't know how you think that trump is going to change that. Should he somehow get re-elected he'll be more bent on revenge and fucking up the government than helping you. I'd guess that about a year into his second term he'd deserve to be impeached for dereliction of duty.

I admit I have not always voted in the primary.
Sometimes it seems a waste of time to vote in the general election period, when I vote 3rd party. But I do want my displeasure with what we are offered on record.

Nothing strange here.

American voters have a mental block!

It blocks all common sense!

Kamala anyone?

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by poprivit:
MM - you're right. Just look at your grocery bill, gas bill, utilities for proof.
I'm very glad that you are rich enough to not care, but some of us, (Retired, 78 years old, veteran, fixed income) may have to be doing our grocery shopping in the pet food isle. I didn't work 52 years in construction to end up like this!

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09...den-trump/index.html

Right now the U.S. is producing more oil than it ever did under trump yet gasoline is higher. The reason is that OPEC and other who are reducing output are causing a shortage and allowing WORLD prices to rise. Believe it or not U.S. producers base the price of their refined products on the world price for crude and not domestic production costs. Also it's a fact that refineries are less efficient in high temperature areas reducing output. I don't know how you think that trump is going to change that. Should he somehow get re-elected he'll be more bent on revenge and fucking up the government than helping you. I'd guess that about a year into his second term he'd deserve to be impeached for dereliction of duty.

The reason is that the oil companies are fucking us, just like they always have. Because they are the oil companies.

Production is up, too much oil, we lose money because price is down due too much availability.

versus

Production is down, not enough oil, we lose money so we have to charge you a shit-load more.

Odd how opec didn't influence OUR prices when trump as in office????

That being said, I hope to get to vote for Desantis in the primary. But in the general????

Anyone but a democrat!

There is not a single democrat running that I would trust with our economy........green garbage....

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Originally posted by JTEX:
Odd how opec didn't influence OUR prices when trump as in office????

That being said, I hope to get to vote for Desantis in the primary. But in the general????

Anyone but a democrat!

There is not a single democrat running that I would trust with our economy........green garbage....

Why so many elections?

Primaries?

General?

What a fucking system!

And as soon as the election is over, it starts all over again!

Same same same bullshit.

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Originally posted by JTEX:
Odd how opec didn't influence OUR prices when trump as in office????

That being said, I hope to get to vote for Desantis in the primary. But in the general????

Anyone but a democrat!

There is not a single democrat running that I would trust with our economy........green garbage....

The economy has been great to me the last few years, the strongest since the 90's. Inflation is high certainly(same as all western countries) but so is demand.

While I do not support all of the Democrats green policies, I was outraged at Trump's environmental policies. I support mining and drilling for oil, in places that it is safe and balanced with other needs such as recreation, wildlife habitat etc.

If a moderate Republican gets the nomination, I will delighted to vote for him. No to Trump and his mini-me's.

Who will openly admit voting for Biden in 24?

Let's hope the GOP nominates a reasonable alternative to Biden, not likely though. I'm thinking a far right culture warrior will get the nod. After the shellacking the GOP just took on issues 1 in Ohio they are doubling down. It does not look like any move towards the center will happen in the near term.

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Who will openly admit voting for Biden in 24?

Not much known today wasn’t 4 years ago.

The Dems are as stupid as their left wing policies!

The GOP had its head up Trump’s arse!

Nothing has changed!

Various of my mother in laws friends say they will be voting trump.

They simply refuse to believe he tells lies, grabs women by the pussy, has a civil conviction for sexual abuse, had an affair with a porn star, paid hush money for said affair, those that worked with him ( who were the “best” people at the time) think he is a fucking moron, doesn’t pay his campaign trail bills, stole classified documents and bragged about it …

Whatever possible evidence which shows he is compleatly lacking a moral or ethical cell in his body … is just locker room talk, exaggeration, fake news, deep states fault, a conspiracy against him. They really are utterly and willingly blind to any hint of any wrongdoing by trump.

The sad thing is the left in its way, tho not to the same magnitude, does the same … and so throwing stones/ glass houses etc.

Biden shouldn’t be standing again, the poor guy should be put out to pasture. Get someone from the middle ground ffs.

Interesting . . . not one Trumpist who is willing to publicly acknowledge that they will stand with the man in the primary?

The wonders of FREE society!

FREE to turn itself into shit!

By the way Nute, what is happening to the world famous Oxford Street?

How Khan running the city??

Remember, he was re-elected!

By FREE people!

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The wonders of FREE society!

FREE to turn itself into shit!

By the way Nute, what is happening to the world famous Oxford Street?

How Khan running the city??

Remember, he was re-elected!

By FREE people!

Yes, he was, and prior to him Boris was mayor. I hate London and only go there if I have to for work.

I in some ways admire Khan in that he is a “labour” mayor but he will stick 2 fingers up to the Labour Party and do what he thinks is best for London (whether or not you agree). If he pisses off enough folks he won’t get voted in again.

On the other side of the coin you have Middle Eastern countries who ban a film because it doesn’t match the “moral values” of the state, yet that state has migrant labour living in virtual slavery and its citizens are very prominent in drinking, gambling and whoring when they are away from the thought police at home.

I’d rather be able to make my own choices thanks.

The true Trumpeteers are very vocal and adamant that they will support their cult leader. Many Republicans, and any with the ability to think critically, would prefer to support anyone else, but they have no viable option around whom they can rally. This means opposition to Trump will be shouted down and fragmented. If anyone other than Trump is nominated, the Trumpeteers will pitch a fit, then pout and stay home on election day. If Trump is nominated, staunch Republicans will hold their noses and vote for him anyway. Democrats will also vote for the commie alternative, regardless of the name.
Neither Joe Biden nor Donald Trump are suitable as presidential candidates, but that may well be the choice offered to voters. The debates will be great entertainment! Regards, Bill.

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Interesting . . . not one Trumpist who is willing to publicly acknowledge that they will stand with the man in the primary?

The question was also asked about biden.....didnt see anyone admit to standing with him either....

Such an impasse.

Biden beat the stupid Orange Arsehole!

In fact, Biden wouldn’t be president if it wasn’t for the MAGA ARSHOLE!

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Biden beat the stupid Orange Arsehole!

In fact, Biden wouldn’t be president if it wasn’t for the MAGA ARSHOLE!

. . . even a blind hog can find an acorn occasionally.

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Originally posted by MJines:
Interesting . . . not one Trumpist who is willing to publicly acknowledge that they will stand with the man in the primary?

The question was also asked about biden.....didnt see anyone admit to standing with him either....

Such an impasse.

Mexican standoff

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On the other side of the coin you have Middle Eastern countries who ban a film because it doesn’t match the “moral values” of the state, yet that state has migrant labour living in virtual slavery and its citizens are very prominent in drinking, gambling and whoring when they are away from the thought police at home.

I’d rather be able to make my own choices thanks.

Touche' Saeed !

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On the other side of the coin you have Middle Eastern countries who ban a film because it doesn’t match the “moral values” of the state, yet that state has migrant labour living in virtual slavery and its citizens are very prominent in drinking, gambling and whoring when they are away from the thought police at home.

I’d rather be able to make my own choices thanks.

Touche' Saeed !

Frankly, the general person in the streets would rather live here right now than in your convoluted society.

I am not saying this, it comes frm everyone I ask!

Including Americans.

A lady from New York says she so so happy to be here with her family, she never worries about her kids coming home safely!

Only criminals are FREE in America!

This is becoming believable!

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Originally posted by wymple:

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On the other side of the coin you have Middle Eastern countries who ban a film because it doesn’t match the “moral values” of the state, yet that state has migrant labour living in virtual slavery and its citizens are very prominent in drinking, gambling and whoring when they are away from the thought police at home.

I’d rather be able to make my own choices thanks.

Touche' Saeed !

Frankly, the general person in the streets would rather live here right now than in your convoluted society.

I am not saying this, it comes frm everyone I ask!

Including Americans.

A lady from New York says she so so happy to be here with her family, she never worries about her kids coming home safely!

90% of America is that way…safe as it could be

Obviously she be from Ny is an issue

I'll take my safe mountain enviroment over your desert shithole where you can't chose your leader or express your opinion any day.

. . . is that a pesky little house fly I hear buzzing around in the room?

. . . polls say Trump has a 40 point lead in the Republican primary and we cannot turf up one brave soul on AR to say they support Trump in the primary? Seems to imply that a lot of Republicans are either liars or cowards . . . or both. Trump values must be contagious.

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . polls say Trump has a 40 point lead in the Republican primary and we cannot turf up one brave soul on AR to say they support Trump in the primary? Seems to imply that a lot of Republicans are either liars or cowards . . . or both. Trump values must be contagious.

There are a lot less Trump signs up compared to past years.

Even the Texas rednecks are coming to grips this asshole tried to subvert America's election.

I don't know what these people think that he is going to do for them, esp. in a second term. I would trust him to look out for my 2A rights either. Don't care at all for Biden or ant Demoncrat.