Who had this on their bingo card. Now Trump wants to revoke 2nd Amendment

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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus

06 September 2025, 05:15

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by 300shooter:
Says trans people are mentally ill and mentally ill people don't have gun rights.

Who decides that?

This is how Hitler began taking away gun rights.

Keep defending this MFer guys.

The similarities are scary!

The Jews had no choice of who they are.

Neither are the transgender.

Both are born that way.

Hitler made his decision on the Jews, soon followed by his crimes against them that defied what humanity is!

Now THE MAGA ORANGE TURD is doing the same to transgender people??

06 September 2025, 05:15

RolandtheHeadless

I thought mainstream psychiatry no longer considers gender dysphoria to be a mental illness. Am I wrong?

It's not an illness just because Trump says so.

Anyway, where in the Second Amendment does it say mentally ill people have no gun rights? There are lots of forms of mental illness and disorder out there, and most of the afflicted pose little danger to others.

06 September 2025, 05:49

Bill Leeper

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by 300shooter:
Says trans people are mentally ill and mentally ill people don't have gun rights.

Who decides that?

This is how Hitler began taking away gun rights.

Keep defending this MFer guys.

The similarities are scary!

The Jews had no choice of who they are.

Neither are the transgender.

Both are born that way.

Hitler made his decision on the Jews, soon followed by his crimes against them that defied what humanity is!

Now THE MAGA ORANGE TURD is doing the same to transgender people??

I do believe some are not born that way but are created by the influence of one or both of their parents. What drives the parent(s) to do this, I do not know.
I don't believe a person who cannot own firearms himself (convicted felon and such) should be throwing that particular stone. Bill

06 September 2025, 06:05

Magine Enigam

quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:

I do believe some are not born that way but are created by the influence of one or both of their parents. What drives the parent(s) to do this, I do not know.
I don't believe a person who cannot own firearms himself (convicted felon and such) should be throwing that particular stone. Bill

There's a lot of controversy about this issue.

For example:

https://www.google.com/search?...IByg&sclient=gws-wiz

06 September 2025, 06:08

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by 300shooter:
Says trans people are mentally ill and mentally ill people don't have gun rights.

Who decides that?

This is how Hitler began taking away gun rights.

Keep defending this MFer guys.

The similarities are scary!

The Jews had no choice of who they are.

Neither are the transgender.

Both are born that way.

Hitler made his decision on the Jews, soon followed by his crimes against them that defied what humanity is!

Now THE MAGA ORANGE TURD is doing the same to transgender people??

I do believe some are not born that way but are created by the influence of one or both of their parents. What drives the parent(s) to do this, I do not know.
I don't believe a person who cannot own firearms himself (convicted felon and such) should be throwing that particular stone. Bill

True.

But I do believe these are a minority compared to those born that way.

I have also heard of some who actually change gender at will!

Doing it backwards and forwards!

Now THAT falls under mental illness, no doubt at all!

Like those who tattoo all their bodies, completely, then remove it, to do it all over again!

In fact, I would go as far as saying I do not believe these have ANY human brains!

06 September 2025, 06:08

RolandtheHeadless

quote:
I do believe some are not born that way but are created by the influence of one or both of their parents. What drives the parent(s) to do this, I do not know.
I don't believe a person who cannot own firearms himself (convicted felon and such) should be throwing that particular stone. Bill

I'm skeptical. What kind of influence are you talking about? What evidence do you have to support this theory?

06 September 2025, 07:54

medved

quote:
Originally posted by 300shooter:
Says trans people are mentally ill and mentally ill people don't have gun rights.

Who decides that?

This is how Hitler began taking away gun rights.

Keep defending this MFer guys.

guns were not taken away in hitler time for the followers of the cult of the supreme leader ...

don t you think soon a mentally person will be someone that does not follow the cult of the supreme leader ... we can already read and see some here ...

06 September 2025, 08:55

MJines

. . . watch the MAGAts here scramble to avoid engaging on this subject.

Besides I believe a pretty good slug of the MAGAts actually admire Hitler.

06 September 2025, 09:34

medved

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
. . . watch the MAGAts here scramble to avoid engaging on this subject.

Besides I believe a pretty good slug of the MAGAts actually admire Hitler.

just start by the tesla one lol ...

06 September 2025, 09:42

Bill Leeper

quote:
Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
quote:
I do believe some are not born that way but are created by the influence of one or both of their parents. What drives the parent(s) to do this, I do not know.
I don't believe a person who cannot own firearms himself (convicted felon and such) should be throwing that particular stone. Bill

I'm skeptical. What kind of influence are you talking about? What evidence do you have to support this theory?

I understand your skepticism and the only evidence I could provide is anecdotal. I'm not a clinician. In essence, nothing says, "Look at me! I'm a liberal mother" quite as well as a transgender child. To the extent that the child is groomed from a young age. Of course, this is my view only and will undoubtedly find little favor among the believers. Perhaps I am simply an intolerant bigot. Bill.

06 September 2025, 10:50

RolandtheHeadless

quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
quote:
Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
quote:
I do believe some are not born that way but are created by the influence of one or both of their parents. What drives the parent(s) to do this, I do not know.
I don't believe a person who cannot own firearms himself (convicted felon and such) should be throwing that particular stone. Bill

I'm skeptical. What kind of influence are you talking about? What evidence do you have to support this theory?

I understand your skepticism and the only evidence I could provide is anecdotal. I'm not a clinician. In essence, nothing says, "Look at me! I'm a liberal mother" quite as well as a transgender child. To the extent that the child is groomed from a young age. Of course, this is my view only and will undoubtedly find little favor among the believers. Perhaps I am simply an intolerant bigot. Bill.

I too can provide anecdotal evidence; that's why I'm interested in your theory. I know a couple of mothers with liberal politics who have transgender offspring--if that's what you mean. I can't tell if "liberal mothers" refers to politics or women who are lax with their children. After thinking about it, I guess I know both kinds of women.

But it would be a mistake to generalize or assume cause and effect from a few anecdotes. Can you explain how your theory works? What a liberal mother says or does that leads to transgender children?

06 September 2025, 14:38

ledvm

quote:
Gender dysphoria is classified as a mental health condition in the DSM-5, published by the American Psychiatric Association, under the category of "Gender Dysphoria." It describes the distress or discomfort someone may feel when their gender identity doesn't align with their assigned sex at birth. However, the classification is controversial. Some argue it pathologizes transgender identities, while others see it as a way to ensure access to medical care, like hormone therapy or surgery, for those experiencing significant distress.

The World Health Organization, in its ICD-11, reclassified it as "gender incongruence" and moved it out of the mental disorders category, framing it more as a health condition related to sexual health. Not all transgender people experience gender dysphoria, and its severity varies widely. Critics of labeling it a mental illness argue it can stigmatize trans identities, while supporters of the classification emphasize that it validates the real distress some individuals face without implying their identity itself is disordered.

Ultimately, whether it’s considered a "mental illness" depends on the framework—psychiatric, medical, or social—being used, and perspectives differ across cultures and communities.

06 September 2025, 19:19

300shooter

quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Gender dysphoria is classified as a mental health condition in the DSM-5, published by the American Psychiatric Association, under the category of "Gender Dysphoria." It describes the distress or discomfort someone may feel when their gender identity doesn't align with their assigned sex at birth. However, the classification is controversial. Some argue it pathologizes transgender identities, while others see it as a way to ensure access to medical care, like hormone therapy or surgery, for those experiencing significant distress.

The World Health Organization, in its ICD-11, reclassified it as "gender incongruence" and moved it out of the mental disorders category, framing it more as a health condition related to sexual health. Not all transgender people experience gender dysphoria, and its severity varies widely. Critics of labeling it a mental illness argue it can stigmatize trans identities, while supporters of the classification emphasize that it validates the real distress some individuals face without implying their identity itself is disordered.

Ultimately, whether it’s considered a "mental illness" depends on the framework—psychiatric, medical, or social—being used, and perspectives differ across cultures and communities.

So there you have it folks, Lane is OK with some Americans who never broke the law losing their gun rights.

06 September 2025, 19:58

Bill Leeper

quote:
Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
quote:
Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
quote:
I do believe some are not born that way but are created by the influence of one or both of their parents. What drives the parent(s) to do this, I do not know.
I don't believe a person who cannot own firearms himself (convicted felon and such) should be throwing that particular stone. Bill

I'm skeptical. What kind of influence are you talking about? What evidence do you have to support this theory?

I understand your skepticism and the only evidence I could provide is anecdotal. I'm not a clinician. In essence, nothing says, "Look at me! I'm a liberal mother" quite as well as a transgender child. To the extent that the child is groomed from a young age. Of course, this is my view only and will undoubtedly find little favor among the believers. Perhaps I am simply an intolerant bigot. Bill.

I too can provide anecdotal evidence; that's why I'm interested in your theory. I know a couple of mothers with liberal politics who have transgender offspring--if that's what you mean. I can't tell if "liberal mothers" refers to politics or women who are lax with their children. After thinking about it, I guess I know both kinds of women.

But it would be a mistake to generalize or assume cause and effect from a few anecdotes. Can you explain how your theory works? What a liberal mother says or does that leads to transgender children?

Roland,
I don't think it is any single thing that is said or done. I think it is a long-term urging, maybe not even intentional. A subtle pressure to stand out to be recognized; to give the child an excuse for failure or non-acceptance.
I have known a bunch of kids who went through period of wanting to wear a princess dress, or wear an apron and push a vacuum cleaner. Puberty interfered with the fantasy, and they were typical young men. In other cases, there was no apparent indication of gender confusion but there were years of indoctrination, of building a sense of entitlement, of special status; manifested in the adoption of opposite gender characteristics. I just believe there are cases wherein nurture overrides nature, though probably imperfectly.
The inner conflict experienced by one who is subtly pushed into a transgender role, may be quite as disabling as that felt by one suffering from true gender dysphoria, who is denied the opportunity. In either case, any mental illness which manifests would be a symptom of their respective conflict, rather than a cause.
I don't know, I'm only theorizing. Regards, Bill.

06 September 2025, 20:46

Tumbleweed

I have a hunch there’s much more to it than ‘influence’.

For 60 or 70 years we’ve been using more and more synthetic medicines, hormones and food additives. It’s now known, for example, that birth control hormones don’t break down after they’ve been expelled; they enter downstream wastes that cause frogs to have birth defects and altered reproductive cycles. So what do they do to human zygotes and foetus’s?

These LGBTQ-whatever people are genuine, I have no doubt about that, and I’m convinced that the vast majority are born to the condition that they present. I’m convinced that they’re the result of damaged chromosomes resulting from substances that their mothers unwittingly ingested. We all remember Thalidomide…

There are no doubt some psychological ‘wannabes’ where it’s honestly just all in their head, but I’m pretty sure the vast majority are just wired that way - and judging by how things were when I was a kid compared to now, they’re forming an increasing portion of our society. How we deal with it, and how diligently we seek the cause is now the issue.

07 September 2025, 01:52

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by 300shooter:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Gender dysphoria is classified as a mental health condition in the DSM-5, published by the American Psychiatric Association, under the category of "Gender Dysphoria." It describes the distress or discomfort someone may feel when their gender identity doesn't align with their assigned sex at birth. However, the classification is controversial. Some argue it pathologizes transgender identities, while others see it as a way to ensure access to medical care, like hormone therapy or surgery, for those experiencing significant distress.

The World Health Organization, in its ICD-11, reclassified it as "gender incongruence" and moved it out of the mental disorders category, framing it more as a health condition related to sexual health. Not all transgender people experience gender dysphoria, and its severity varies widely. Critics of labeling it a mental illness argue it can stigmatize trans identities, while supporters of the classification emphasize that it validates the real distress some individuals face without implying their identity itself is disordered.

Ultimately, whether it’s considered a "mental illness" depends on the framework—psychiatric, medical, or social—being used, and perspectives differ across cultures and communities.

So there you have it folks, Lane is OK with some Americans who never broke the law losing their gun rights.

ahh, so you suddenly see why "red flag" laws area slippery slope -- you'll be against those, forever, then?

07 September 2025, 02:47

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by 300shooter:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Gender dysphoria is classified as a mental health condition in the DSM-5, published by the American Psychiatric Association, under the category of "Gender Dysphoria." It describes the distress or discomfort someone may feel when their gender identity doesn't align with their assigned sex at birth. However, the classification is controversial. Some argue it pathologizes transgender identities, while others see it as a way to ensure access to medical care, like hormone therapy or surgery, for those experiencing significant distress.

The World Health Organization, in its ICD-11, reclassified it as "gender incongruence" and moved it out of the mental disorders category, framing it more as a health condition related to sexual health. Not all transgender people experience gender dysphoria, and its severity varies widely. Critics of labeling it a mental illness argue it can stigmatize trans identities, while supporters of the classification emphasize that it validates the real distress some individuals face without implying their identity itself is disordered.

Ultimately, whether it’s considered a "mental illness" depends on the framework—psychiatric, medical, or social—being used, and perspectives differ across cultures and communities.

So there you have it folks, Lane is OK with some Americans who never broke the law losing their gun rights.

Nah, I think anyone who wants a gun should be able to walk in a store and buy one I am for pre68.

Just pointing out that transgenderism is a mental disease.

07 September 2025, 02:47

shankspony

quote:
Originally posted by 300shooter:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Gender dysphoria is classified as a mental health condition in the DSM-5, published by the American Psychiatric Association, under the category of "Gender Dysphoria." It describes the distress or discomfort someone may feel when their gender identity doesn't align with their assigned sex at birth. However, the classification is controversial. Some argue it pathologizes transgender identities, while others see it as a way to ensure access to medical care, like hormone therapy or surgery, for those experiencing significant distress.

The World Health Organization, in its ICD-11, reclassified it as "gender incongruence" and moved it out of the mental disorders category, framing it more as a health condition related to sexual health. Not all transgender people experience gender dysphoria, and its severity varies widely. Critics of labeling it a mental illness argue it can stigmatize trans identities, while supporters of the classification emphasize that it validates the real distress some individuals face without implying their identity itself is disordered.

Ultimately, whether it’s considered a "mental illness" depends on the framework—psychiatric, medical, or social—being used, and perspectives differ across cultures and communities.

So there you have it folks, Lane is OK with some Americans who never broke the law losing their gun rights.

I think there is good evidence that some people are born with variations on standard physiology for their sex. Does that make them the opposite sex? no, but it might well orient them too thinking that way.
There are also I think a percentage with some other disorder that leads them too display similarly.

I would suggest that having or displaying traits of the opposite sex alone is not enough grounds to discriminate against someone on the likes of gun ownership. However other indicators of mental illness in conjunction with, should absolutely be grounds.

08 September 2025, 02:59

RolandtheHeadless

quote:
Just pointing out that transgenderism is a mental disease.

But your quote doesn't say that.

08 September 2025, 03:04

RolandtheHeadless

quote:
I would suggest that having or displaying traits of the opposite sex alone is not enough grounds to discriminate against someone on the likes of gun ownership. However other indicators of mental illness in conjunction with, should absolutely be grounds.

Have to disagree. Suppose we have someone with an anxiety disorder. On bad days, he can't face leaving his house. He poses no unusual risk to others. Are you saying he should be denied gun rights if he also happens to be trans?