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The Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee and the Chairman of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Federal Courts sent the Attorney General the request I reproduce below in its entirety:
"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | ||
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Isn't Thomas the justice who says special prosecutors are unconstitutional? What irony if one is appointed to investigate Thomas! | |||
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He was the one. I wonder if Chief Justice Roberts would groe a spine if the issue came before the S.Ct., on Thomas’ head. More than likely, CJ Roberts would let Justice Thomas adjudicate his own case. | |||
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He won’t have to. When Trump wins bit Thomas and Alito can retire and with a Republican controlled Senate he can simply appoint 2 more strict originalist’a and possibly a 3rd as one of the left wi g Husrices is getting up there in age. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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The republicans had control of both house! They did fuck all about being useful! The people kicked them out! | |||
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Still better than bri f ruled by a heriditary Emir and his family. Saeed. Are t you closely connected with them?? DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Well, a) neither is an actual originalist as I have proved with the 2nd Amendment cases, and b) neither is going to retire. The winning of the election by Trump is open ended at this point. | |||
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Thomas and I believe Alito are both in their 70’s and are waiting for a Republican President and Republican control of the Senate so that they can get out without becoming the vegetable that was RBG in her last year. (RBG was a brilliant Lea gal Mind even though I mostly disagreed with her). RBG held on too long and because everyone was convinced Hillary was a show in decided to stay. The Dem’s self inflicted there. I know the Dems want to pack the court but I don’t think that’s actually possible without the concurrence if Congress. LHeym500 I will defer to your expertise there. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Strict originalist, unless the Orange Jesus needs immunity | |||
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That same immunity applies to your heroes Biden and Obama as well. Nice try at spin though. Thy was a credible effort. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Absolutely nobody, including the Supreme Court, has any clue who the immunity applies to, or when. The entire point of the Republican partisans on the Court even considering the case to start with was to give Trump time to try to win the election. They have amply demonstrated that "precedence", a backbone of American jurisprudence for most of our history, the entire concept of stare decisis is disposable if a previous ruling interferes with something Republicans want to do, no matter how much has been based on that ruling or how long it has been "the Law of the Land". Every one of the last 5 Republican nominees seated on the Court sat on National TV, under Oath, and testified to the importance of respect for precedent, especially precedent which has been repeatedly tested and stood, and clearly articulated that overturning Roe was neither contemplated nor in the Country's best interest. All 5 lied, perjury when done under Oath, and voted to overturn one of the most consequential and most re-affirmed precedents there was, at their first opportunity. Those same partisans would not hesitate to overturn their own immunity ruling in a heartbeat if it was actually going to be used against them, or benefit a Democrat. Get somebody to read the Appeals Court decision they overturned to you; you will never in this lifetime read a more cogent, better reasoned decision that more closely follows what the text and intent of the Constitution requires, on any legal question ever raised in this Country. Then read the pile of horseshit the Republican majority issued to overturn it. If your comprehension level rises above fourth grade the harm to our Republic just might make you weep, or want to. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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So you’re a lawyer AND a bully? But then I repeat myself. 5 people over that period of time all pursuers themselves? Statistically unlikely. They all stated IIRC that they had not contemplated it and as I recall there was no case before the court for them to contemplate. Further I seem to remember both the 5 Justices you mentioned as well as the 3 leftist stooges that continue to sit on the bench as stating “I will not comment on possible upcoming cases that might come before the court”. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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You complain a lot about being bullied. Did the other students pick on you in high school? Is that why you're so sensitive to the issue? Do you feel overmatched in our battles of wits? | |||
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Bullied? At 5’9” 190# as a freshman I think not. I was simply referring to your tactics. Overmatched against Rolandthewitless? Fuck me that’s funny. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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I now feel bullied. | |||
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Well played. If you want to send me your PO box number I will send you a few cases of Harden The Fuck Up. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Do you believe in an originalist interpretation of the constitution or only when the orange turd needs immunity due to his criminal behavior? Presidential immunity is not mentioned in the Constitution, yet the originalists on the court found it. No deflection, just pointing out the inconsistency in the views of you originalists. | |||
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You know when you just have to call someone “the orange turd” I steal if Trump or Former President Trump I really can’t take you seriously. Alfred talking with Magine I really try not to call Harris names (I do slip sometimes. I’m sure LHeym500 can give us a better answer to your question than I can as he is a far better Constitutional scholar than I am. You are better than school yard name calling. Act like it. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Watch this. Then, just for shits and giggles, in view of the immunity ruling, watch this. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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You seem offended that I have zero respect for that lying, cheating, philandering, fraud that the GOP has nominated for POTUS. Oh well, not much in his behavior deserving respect in my opinion. I would like your opinion, why is it that originalist are fine with "interpreting" the constitution when the Orange Jesus needs immunity but not for other issues such as abortion rights? It seems to me that "originalist" do not stick that position all the time, just when convenient. | |||
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Look, it is very clear that the original intent of the Bill of Rights was to no ever be limitations upon the state legislature. The Constitution sets the broad powers of the Federal Government. At the time referred to as the General Government. 18th and 19th Century Federalism many cases included the Slaughter House Cases that have never been overturned speaks to dual citizenship between the Federal Government and State Government. Either citizenship having its own requirements and protections provided depending upon wither entity. The Bill of r were limits upon the Federal Government in order to get states to ratify the framework of the Federal Government. The states did not give up any right or power through the Bill of Rights. Everyone needs to go read Barron v Maryland. Of note, the Slaughter House cases have not been overturned. Justice Scalia expressly refused to address the Slaughter House cases in Heller. What the Court did starting in 1936 or 7 is use the 14th Amendment Equal Protection Clause to Incorporate rights selected by the Court as Federally protected rights. The Court uses mainly the Doctrine of Fundamental Right Ms to decide what Rights to are to be incorporated. I have outlined the cases that clearly apply the principles above many times w citation. It is not my words, but the Supreme Court’s words. Heller does not say the 2nd Amendment was a Fundamental Right. Heller said the right of armed self defense was a fundamental right. This, in order to give effect to that fundamental right the Court incorporated the 2nd. This was not the originalist intent of the Bill of Rights. Scilla admits it. Mark my words a new majority will use the language of Dobbs to de-incorporate the 2nd Amendment. The only thing that might restrain that majority is if they have more honesty that Justice Alito. I finally figured out what Justice Scalia’s limiting principle was, that was the Bill of Rights. He does not come out and say that. However, in Heller he cites an early dissent that argued for incorporating all the Bill of Rights (8 of them). Therefore, I infer that was his red line. Justice Scalia was very progressive about expanding the 4th Amendment federal protection against the states. Again, read Barron and work forward from there, that was not the intent of the 4th as it was a restriction upon Federal actors. Jefffive is somewhat right the S. Ct., in Trump’s immunity case gave no test or framework to answer what is or is not an “Official Act.” | |||
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Now we have this: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...5aedf5689ae60f&ei=63 Supreme Court Justice Warns Of ‘Explosion’ Of Legal Hindrances Story by DCNF-Newswire • 14h • 4 min read U.S. Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch warned Sunday on Fox News about how an “explosion” of new laws could impact Americans’ freedoms. Gorsuch sat down for interview with Fox News’ Shannon Bream on “Fox News Sunday” to discuss his upcoming book, “Over Ruled: The Human Toll of Too Much Law,” which is set to be released on Tuesday. During the discussion, Bream brought up the idea of conduct not only being “over regulated” but also “over criminalized,” leading to Gorsuch agreeing that Americans could be committing felonies every day without realizing it. ************* Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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