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The percentage of Americans with accounts exceeding the FDIC insured limit is very small. Normal people need to know those insured amounts are not going anywhere, so they can relax. Those with larger amounts knew they were not insured by FDIC above the limit, and took that risk. Bad decisions should hurt so we learn from them.


For individual Americans the mean account is $41,000

A college grad with a Bachelors $79,000

Without a highschool diploma $9,000

Now i'm reading the FDIC's limit is really more a recommendation than a limit?
Moving the goal posts comes to mind.

Even a neophyte like me realises this move will add both debt and inflation.
Who will ultimately pay for that?

This sounds more & more like the government using my rainy day fund to bail out folks Bernie Bros
refer to as millionaires and billionaires.

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The percentage of Americans with accounts exceeding the FDIC insured limit is very small. Normal people need to know those insured amounts are not going anywhere, so they can relax. Those with larger amounts knew they were not insured by FDIC above the limit, and took that risk. Bad decisions should hurt so we learn from them.


It's a very troubling situation. I have an elderly parent who has serious worries. Seeing people standing in lines outside a bank in tears is a bit much. I have little faith in government and 'insurance' they say they will back up.


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Debt to asset ratio of 185-1??

Who the hell runs a bank like that?


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Ann, you must be some kind of special stupid. If the government didn’t shore up investors with this failed bank, what the fuck do you think people are going to be doing across the US? come on, stretch those 47 neurons and give an answer a shot.


So, Doug, do you think a bank failure run won't impact the economy? I do.


There were plenty of bank failures under trump, 15 or 16. I don't recall a drop of concern from you.
 
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Debt to asset ratio of 185-1??

Who the hell runs a bank like that?


A bank that operates without a chief risk officer for 8 months?


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Debt to asset ratio of 185-1??

Who the hell runs a bank like that?


A bank that operates without a chief risk officer for 8 months?


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Is It True That 15 Banks Failed During Trump's Presidency?
Story by Izz Scott LaMagdeleine • Yesterday 3:58 PM

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Why Trump is being called out in the Silicon Valley Bank collapse

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The 'mother of all moral hazards': economist Nouriel Roubini cheers the demise of banks with ties to the crypto industry

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Sinema Wants Accountability for Bank Mess. Hand Her a Mirror.


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How stupid are you people?
2010 there were 157 bank failures, in 2011, 92.
Who was president then? Let me help, it was Obo.
This has to do with poor bank management, and nothing more.
 
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It wasn't less regulation, bad loans, shady investments or woke policies. It was treasury bills that declined in value and Dodd Frank allowed banks to report that value at maturity, not the actual current value. During the pandemic SVB had more deposits (stimulus money from both Trump and Biden) than loans. They placed the extra deposits in T-bills. As the FED raise interest rates those T bills kept getting cheaper. The Risk officer (Laura Izurieta) at SVB quit in April of 2022 and wasn't replaced until January so there possibly was a break down in internal oversite of the situation. When Cramer pumped up SVB on his show some investment advisors began nosing around SVB's financial statements and noticed the issue. They advised their clients to pull their money and that began the run.
 
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How stupid are you people?
2010 there were 157 bank failures, in 2011, 92.
Who was president then? Let me help, it was Obo.
This has to do with poor bank management, and nothing more.


Ah yes, during the early years of the Bush Recession, Dow Jones just under 7000 when Obama took office.
I am getting senile but remember some things better than others.

This time, "safe" Treasury securities used for collateral declined in value when the Federal Reserve doubled the current interest rates.
Oops.


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Dont you know how the game is played on here Tom?
You blame the previous administration, unless something makes you look good, then you take credit for it. But never ever admit it!
 
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It wasn't less regulation, bad loans, shady investments or woke policies. It was treasury bills that declined in value and Dodd Frank allowed banks to report that value at maturity, not the actual current value. During the pandemic SVB had more deposits (stimulus money from both Trump and Biden) than loans. They placed the extra deposits in T-bills. As the FED raise interest rates those T bills kept getting cheaper. The Risk officer (Laura Izurieta) at SVB quit in April of 2022 and wasn't replaced until January so there possibly was a break down in internal oversite of the situation. When Cramer pumped up SVB on his show some investment advisors began nosing around SVB's financial statements and noticed the issue. They advised their clients to pull their money and that began the run.


This is the best description of what happened I have read.

Question, would not regulation requiring banks to hold 2x Capital vs Debt not have prevented this? Or pick whatever capital to debt ratio you want.

Or 2x Cash assets to deposits shown as a bond against a run?

Seems to me if you are going to be in banking one would need more cash on hand then deposits. If you (bank) can match the deposits, you need to be told you cannot take x amount in deposits.

You can tell me I am wrong.

As for those who deposited over the 250k FDIC insured amount, my vote is not to bail them out. Now, I am willing to bite that bullet if someone can demonstrate to me if we don’t X really bad thing happens.

However, I would insist on banks backing deposits at 2x cash. Or no, I do not support bail out w tax dollars.
 
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On a similar note, some here predicted a disaster for the stock market. Since the news broke Friday, the Dow Jones, S&P and NASDAQ are all up…… This was a regional bank catering to a niche market, not indicative of the general banking system, poorly managed to boot. coffee


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On a similar note, some here predicted a disaster for the stock market. Since the news broke Friday, the Dow Jones, S&P and NASDAQ are all up…… This was a regional bank catering to a niche market, not indicative of the general banking system, poorly managed to boot. coffee


Jerry, I am not a finance person at all but it seems to me we've gotten lucky so far. Many are saying a crash is brewing. Are they right? Time will tell. I certainly do not like to see rough (greedy) economic times yet I know this has occurred several times even in my life. Very detrimental.


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ohiosam, maybe you have some insight to this.
If there were offers on the bank from private sources, why would the FDIC reject them? With Bidens bailout, taxpayers are on the hook aren't they? If it was privately owned taxpayers would owe nothing.
 
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The Federal Reserve has a little explaining to do here too, it takes time to accommodate an interest rate change of the 2023 magnitude.
Greenspan made trouble with much smaller interest rate changes over a longer span of time, what made anyone think this was ok?
Can this be seen as a scheme for big banks to raid the assets of smaller ones?


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ohiosam, maybe you have some insight to this.
If there were offers on the bank from private sources, why would the FDIC reject them? With Bidens bailout, taxpayers are on the hook aren't they? If it was privately owned taxpayers would owe nothing.


Good question


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ohiosam, maybe you have some insight to this.
If there were offers on the bank from private sources, why would the FDIC reject them? With Bidens bailout, taxpayers are on the hook aren't they? If it was privately owned taxpayers would owe nothing.


Sorry I don’t. What I posted came from listening and reading a couple trusted sources who were explaining it without trying to just spin it politically.
 
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