trump says that the porn star he paid the hush money to and the lawyer that arranged the transaction shouldn't be allowed to testify against him.

Delusional.

https://thehill.com/homenews/4...ny-hush-money-trial/

It's unfair to present evidence and testimony just to make him look guilty at his trial...

This is not going to work.

Just how many legal actions have been brought against this guy?

I think it's currently 90 something.

If he is innocent, which he claims he is and he didn't pay hush money, didn't shag the iron star or the playboy centrefold, what's he worried about?

Mike:

Help me out here. There are certain inevitable truths. Throughout history, men have had mistresses or other ill-advised dalliances, and have paid off the women in question to keep their mouths shut. How is that a crime? If it was the woman who threatened to go public sans payment, the woman would be guilty of blackmail. If that happened and payment was made, how is the man guilty of any crime? What is it? -- state the crime.

If the woman didn't try to blackmail the man, but he just thought it would be best to pay her for her silence with a NDA, where is the crime? What's the charge?

And if she took money in exchange for a NDA, how can she testify?

If she does, she should be prosecuted for fraud. Criminally and civilly.

. . . the crime is not the payoff, the crime is falsifying business records to conceal it. The man is the embodiment of fraud. How in good conscience can you defend the man?

Did he take a tax deduction for it?

What good is a pay off if you are forced to disclose it?

I sometimes wonder if the folks that defend Trump and his activities realize that their defense of the man and his immoral conduct says as much about them as it says about Trump. They seem to think that they can dismiss and defend conduct devoid of virtue without it saying something about themselves and their values. Interesting dynamic.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
Did he take a tax deduction for it?

What good is a pay off if you are forced to disclose it?

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“The People of the State of New York allege that Donald J. Trump repeatedly and fraudulently falsified New York business records to conceal crimes that hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election,” Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg said in a statement.

Link

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Originally posted by lavaca:
Did he take a tax deduction for it?

What good is a pay off if you are forced to disclose it?

Do you think those pay-offs are moral and ethical?

I'm interested to see how far you're willing to go to defend that man.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Originally posted by lavaca:
Did he take a tax deduction for it?

What good is a pay off if you are forced to disclose it?

Do you think those pay-offs are moral and ethical?

I'm interested to see how far you're willing to go to defend that man.

To his knees.

Come on, fellas. Trump, being the pious man of faith that he is, will restore America as a Christian nation. Didn't you know that?

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Originally posted by lavaca:
Did he take a tax deduction for it?

What good is a pay off if you are forced to disclose it?

You don't have to disclose it if you don't get caught. I don't recall exactly what triggered the existence of it.

Correct me if I dm wrong, but the criminality of this is an unreported campaign contribution as it was paid to benefit the campaign.

A legal theory long recognized by the appellate courts.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Correct me if I dm wrong, but the criminality of this is an unreported campaign contribution as it was paid to benefit the campaign.

A legal theory long recognized by the appellate courts.

And claimed as "legal fees", reducing taxes owed.

And New York has Laws against falsifying business records.

"Originally posted by lavaca:
Did he take a tax deduction for it?"

Yes. "And claimed as "legal fees", reducing taxes owed."

Does it even matter to you that the crook did?