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Biden pardons hunter on all charges..... After his promise to the American citizens he does the typical elitist democrat move.... You can not trust ANYTHING ANY DEMOCRAT SAYS!!!!!! . | ||
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JTEX - While I’m not sure why he had to lie, in all honesty, I’d have pardoned my son as well. Presidents have made questionable pardons all throughout history. If it was me, I’d have said something like; “I’m not sure yet. I’ll need to do some soul searching on it.” Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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We all knew he would. He should have just owned it from the beginning. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Exactly! ~Ann   | |||
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I agree with you Steve.....I just wouldn't have lied about it. He didn't HAVE to lie..... | |||
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Don’t trust ANYTHING coming out of ANY politicians mouth. Odds are it’s a lie.  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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And you lot turn a blind eye to all Trump's lies!  | |||
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Talk about lawfare: Hunter did no more than tens of thousands of gun-buyers who use marijuana have done. Yet, they singled him out for prosecution. Tell me Trump wouldn't have pardoned his kid. Hell, Trump is threatening to pardon the J-6 criminals. | |||
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With the current average ages of gun owners I would bet that number is in the millions. I know & worked with a virtual horde of right wing, 2A gun owners & could count on 1 hand the number who never experimented. What do think they all put on their forms about it? | |||
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And how many Americans have misfiled tax documents? Yet here we are, a Presidential candidate had to go to court, in the middle of a campaign to fight it. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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"Misfiled"? That's a rewrite. Trump was convicted of fraud. Go ahead, tell us he didn't do it. | |||
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The question (f) on the 4473 does not ask if you have EVER used a controlled substance, it ask's if you are a User, present tense not past tense. So your justification means shit. | |||
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Naw, it is pretty accurate. If someone used, experimented, and filled out the form they are prosecutable. We have a thread going about a similar topic right now. State legal med marijuana is still disqualifying and prosecutable. Not for nothing, one Fed Circuit Court has held this user of illicit substances to be unconstitutional. | |||
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"Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside". Here is question (f) on the 4473 verbatim, please show me where it asks if you have ever used a controlled substance. It asks if you are a "user" not if you have ever "used". | |||
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Current diss not mean popping gummies this instant. It does not matter if states legalize THC. The Feds still list it as a Schedule 1 narcotic. It is federally illegal. If you routinely use, purchase marijuana THC Delta 9 cannabis products and have a firearm transferred to you, you are in violation of Fed law and prosecutable. No one ever said any past use, just that marijuana has to use a state trooper’s phrase, “become socially acceptable.” That does not matter to the Feds if they want strict enforcement. | |||
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I think you're right. "Are you" asks about current use. I wonder if there would be a Fifth Amendment issue, the right not to incriminate yourself. If, in attempting to exercise your Second Amendment rights, you answer "yes" to the question, you're subject to prosecution under federal drug laws. But if you dishonestly answer "no," you're also subject to prosecution for perjury and gun law violation. The only way to avoid the dilemma is to give up your Second Amendment rights. Or give up pot. | |||
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Are you talking about the loan with Mar a Lack as collateral? If so, well you are retarded! . | |||
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Not the point. When he was trying to get elected, he lied and said he wouldn't pardon his ne're do well son, but once he's a lame duck, he did what he always knew he would do. The point is that Democrats are liars. You should never vote for one, not even for dog catcher. | |||
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How any Trump supporter can have the temerity to call anyone else out for lying is beyond me. The President-elect has made lying an art form. I doubt that in the history of modern politics there has been any other President or presidential candidate that his lied as frequently and with the fluidity of Trump. Yet his loyal followers will chastise others for lying while giving him a complete pass. Makes you question their basic intelligence. Mike | |||
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Yet 81 million people (supposedly) voted for a man with a 50 year history of lying in public office.  ~Ann | |||
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What's your point? I already said that the choice this election cycle was the most pathetic in modern political history. Both candidates were abysmal, as was Biden. I have no problem saying that. Let's try this, do you believe that Trump has a long track record of lying? Just a simple yes or no will suffice. My guess, you will answer with a deflection, either by referring to other politicians as liars, all politicians as liars, etc. You will not simply give a heads up answer regarding Trump. Mike | |||
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I get that he has sympathy for his son and you guys seem to accept that as the premise of the pardon. The real issue here is that he has made a blanket pardon for any crime he has been charged for or any crime he could be charged for all the way back to 2014. Conveniently, this covers the time in which he was on the Board of Burisma negotiating payments to "the Big Guy". Eleven years of blanket immunity are not what the Executive privilege was designed to allow. So, now, when Trump commutes the sentences of most of the Jan. 6th prisoners you can all sit back and accept the Constitutional legitimacy of it. | |||
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Yep, here's my deflection. All politicians lie. We all know that. 0bama lied, 0biden lied, Bush lied, Clinton lied... All made lots of lies. Trump? Sho-nuff, so what is your obsession and point? Me, I just come to point out hypocrisy. Jines, you only care when it is a conservative. That's why I made mention so there is your answer. While I'm sure it won't be good enough for you, we'll all live another day despite the butthurt and TDS. ~Ann | |||
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If you candidly cannot even admit to yourself that Trump makes other politicians look like pikers when it comes to lying, well, you are well and truly are lost and belong in the lost nation. Mike | |||
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I am already on record that I will and already accept the fact that Trump assumed pardoning or commuting of Jan 6ers is a legitimate use of his vested power. Assuming Trump so does, when the next election roles around folks are free to say I am not voting for a GOP candidate who thinks that was a good idea or a proper use of that legitimate power. The rest of your response is nonsense. | |||
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