https://apnews.com/article/tru...0d64948708de1b011ed3

Kind of hard to Win a General Election as a Republican if you cannot carry VA, NC, and GA with the rest of the South.

Too bad the gallows aren't in play

Your thread title is misleading, as the cited article says it's not clear against whom the indictment was issued.

We might infer that it was probably against Trump, but the article doesn't go that far.

You are 100 percent correct.

Thank you, Rolland

No names identified at this time.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/...e-to-grand-jury.html

Trump and 18 others indicted, including Giuliani, Meadows, Powell.

Same reporting as here:
President Trump indicated.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2...b2e78a12eb233aea9631

Can't wait to hear the MAGA excuses.

Anticipating the "Election Interference Excuse"; when would have been the right time to indict him? Any time after January 6th would have been appropriate.

I like that they've fully investigated the evidence. NOW is a good time to indict.

There never was any doubt, but now we get to clearly see who were Trump's bitches.

Fulton County sheriff says trump will be treated like every other criminal. Perp walk and mug shot.

quote:

Originally posted by Kensco:
Can't wait to hear the MAGA excuses.

It's already started bigly, on Fox for example.

Such creativity with lies and twist is difficult to comprehend, but there it is. It's a ratings and money maker, and people are desperate for the affirmations.

quote:

Originally posted by Kensco:
Can't wait to hear the MAGA excuses.

Anticipating the "Election Interference Excuse"; when would have been the right time to indict him? Any time after January 6th would have been appropriate.

I like that they've fully investigated the evidence. NOW is a good time to indict.

There never was any doubt, but now we get to clearly see who were Trump's bitches.

There hasn't yet been held a future election for which interference could be claimed. Being a candidate for office is 100% voluntary and in no way should insulate you from any kind of prosecution. Seems like he was the Interferer in Chief.

So why now is this happening, why not indite him a couple years ago? Oh yeah we're in an election cycle lmao. Muller and all the other investigations over the last few years and nothing just a big waste of time and money to distract the simpletons. I cannot stand Trump or Biden both are imbeciles however this is banana republic stuff we're seeing here.

In the video, people think the dates these charges are being dropped on orange man is a coincidence?

https://rumble.com/v33xkpi-lar...-charging-trump.html

quote:

Originally posted by Big Ern Mccracken:
So why now is this happening, why not indite him a couple years ago? Oh yeah we're in an election cycle lmao. Muller and all the other investigations over the last few years and nothing just a big waste of time and money to distract the simpletons. I cannot stand Trump or Biden both are imbeciles however this is banana republic stuff we're seeing here.

In the video, people think the dates these charges are being dropped on orange man is a coincidence?

https://rumble.com/v33xkpi-lar...-charging-trump.html

The repugs would never do such a thing...oh yeah, Hunter bullshit who's not even running for anything.

quote:

Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

There hasn't yet been an election for which interference could be claimed.

I don't think you said what you meant to say.

There have been many claims of election interference, mostly by Trump, and Kari Lake, etc., and some from Dem candidates, such as Abram. Cases before the judiciary were thrown out, lacking substance.

But in the court of public opinion, for many, Trump's claims carry the weight the same as if they were fact.

However, that same weight got him indicted on multiple counts, Trump's lies being a part of a conspiracy.

Yet, even the indictments and evidence hasn't led to logical results in the court of public opinion as would be expected of rational people.

So, the lies were effective.

Now, the lies and conspiracy are evident, and also so are the rationalizations, excuses, deflections, projections of the duped.

It's only a question of how far they will go in support of their belief in lies.

Despite all the denials, deflections, etc., hopefully accountability follows a predictable trajectory.

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

There hasn't yet been an election for which interference could be claimed.

I don't think you said what you meant to say.

There have been many claims of election interference, mostly by Trump, and Kari Lake, etc., and some from Dem candidates, such as Abram. Cases before the judiciary were thrown out, lacking substance.

But in the court of public opinion, for many, Trump's claims carry the weight the same as if they were fact.

However, that same weight got him indicted on multiple counts, Trump's lies being a part of a conspiracy.

Yet, even the indictments and evidence hasn't led to logical results in the court of public opinion as would be expected of rational people.

So, the lies were effective.

Now, the lies and conspiracy are evident, and also so are the rationalizations, excuses, deflections, projections of the duped.

It's only a question of how far they will go in support of their belief in lies.

Despite all the denials, deflections, etc., hopefully accountability follows a predictable trajectory.

Yes, you're right, but I fixed it I hope. Was referring to the 2024 elections coming up which is the one that the orange oaf seems to be claiming interfence in

It's ironic that one part of Trump's felony indictment is about the conspiracy to deny citizens' constitutional right to vote or have their votes counted and defraud the country.

And now he claims it's election interference to be indicted for conspiring to interfere in the election and transition.

And people buy into that, along with Fox.

Lol and now he claims he will be releasing a definitive, factual report on the fraudulent election claims.

I will believe that when it happens.

quote:

Originally posted by straightshooter:

quote:

Originally posted by Big Ern Mccracken:
So why now is this happening, why not indite him a couple years ago? Oh yeah we're in an election cycle lmao. Muller and all the other investigations over the last few years and nothing just a big waste of time and money to distract the simpletons. I cannot stand Trump or Biden both are imbeciles however this is banana republic stuff we're seeing here.

In the video, people think the dates these charges are being dropped on orange man is a coincidence?

https://rumble.com/v33xkpi-lar...-charging-trump.html

The repugs would never do such a thing...oh yeah, Hunter bullshit who's not even running for anything.

Exactly.

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Lol and now he claims he will be releasing a definitive, factual report on the fraudulent election claims.

I will believe that when it happens.

He's in full-time pollute the jury pool at this point. All he needs is one.

quote:

All he needs is one.

It's probable that a judge will issue some constraining order, and when he violates it, suffer consequences.

In GA that's likely to happen, especially if he issues such a report.

What a great show

quote:

Originally posted by Bivoj:
What a great show

Trump is in show business, the PT Barnum of our time.

Damn right it is a great show!

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Lol and now he claims he will be releasing a definitive, factual report on the fraudulent election claims.

I will believe that when it happens.

Seems like I saw somewhere where that could be construed as some sort of tampering? True?

New motion to move his portion of the case to federal court filed by Donald Trump’s former chief of staff Mark Meadows who is a co-defendant in the new criminal case filed by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis.

https://youtu.be/mgSKVETaIow

Info and analysis

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This is also in the news:
Trump didn't pay attorneys involved in efforts to overturn election

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...9c95fcd5572a93&ei=10

More on Trump's proposed "definitive, factual Truth report"

Here's some irony:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...414?ocid=socialshare

Giuliani and racketeering (RICO)

Organized Crime is exactly what Trump and 18 co-conspiritors are charged with in Georgia

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...Bcr?ocid=socialshare

More on Trump's proposed report for next Monday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...ae74fb8d46f04e&ei=43

Trump's legal advisers urge him to cancel press conference: Sources
16m

Former President Donald Trump's promised press conference to refute the allegations in the indictment handed up by the Fulton County DA's Office is now very much in doubt, multiple sources familiar with the matter tell ABC News.

Sources tell ABC News that Trump's legal advisors have told him that holding such a press conference with dubious claims of voter fraud will only complicate his legal problems and some of his attorneys have advised him to cancel it.

Trump announced the planned press conference with a social media post shortly after he and 18 co-defendants were indicted late Monday in Georgia. He said he would present, "A Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia."

Georgia's Republican governor responded to that with his own social media post declaring, "The 2020 election in Georgia was not stolen. For nearly three years now, anyone with evidence of fraud has failed to come forward -- under oath -- and prove anything in a court of law.”

Campaigning in Iowa, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said he agreed with Kemp. And so did former Vice President Mike Pence, who said on Wednesday, "The Georgia election was not stolen."

Georgia's 2020 presidential election has been thoroughly examined and re-examined. The results were confirmed in three separate counts, include a hand count of the nearly 5 million ballots cast in the state. Under Attorney General Bill Barr, Trump's own Justice Department looked allegations made by Trump. So did the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

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IOW, Trump's lawyers have told him that he's run out of rope with his lies, regarding the courts.

But of course, Trump's playing in the field of public opinion and thinks that will save him.

Maybe it will. Scary

It used to be Hollywood providing entertainment.

Now the American political system!

Way to go for the FREE people to run their country!

What an utter fuckup!

And look at the proposed trial start date. What a coincidence!

Tough shit. When did you expect a trial date? Next month? With so many charges in so many courts and jurisdictions, you get what you get. Look on the bright side, though. It gives Trump a lot of times to rake in more donations for his legal defense, which he will then keep for himself…

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
It used to be Hollywood providing entertainment.

Now the American political system!

Way to go for the FREE people to run their country!

What an utter fuckup!

And now a lot of people think that Hollywood should be listened to in how to run the country…

Yep.

We are so free that we allow the stupid to have a say…

I still think this election cycle will be the greatest show on earth bar none gents and history in makings for the best and weirdest elections ever
I’m loving every minute of it and our country will live to tell the tale…just fine

Panicked Trump lawyers urging him to pull the plug on Georgia press conference: report
Story by Tom Boggioni •
8h

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...b2cf78e5f26c41&ei=11

According to a report from ABC News, Trump's legal advisers are worried he may say something that will make it harder for them to defend him in the far-reaching RICO case Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis filed earlier this week.

According to ABC News' sources, "Trump's legal advisors have told him that holding such a press conference with dubious claims of voter fraud will only complicate his legal problems and some of his attorneys have advised him to cancel it."

After the former president took to social media to proclaim he would present, "A Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia," Georgia's Republican Gov. Brian Kemp fired back and stated that "the 2020 election in Georgia was not stolen. For nearly three years now, anyone with evidence of fraud has failed to come forward -- under oath -- and prove anything in a court of law.”

The ABC report adds that "Georgia's 2020 presidential election has been thoroughly examined and re-examined. The results were confirmed in three separate counts, include a hand count of the nearly 5 million ballots cast in the state. Under Attorney General Bill Barr, Trump's own Justice Department looked allegations made by Trump. So did the Georgia Bureau of Investigation."

https://www.newsweek.com/trump...is-innocence-1820699

Trump Cancels Release of 'Irrefutable Report' of His Innocence
BY KAITLIN LEWIS ON 8/17/23 AT 8:41 PM EDT

Well, that didn’t take long. In less than 6 hours Trump pulls an about face when his advisers realized he had once again put his foot in his mouth. I’ll bet any Trumpite here a thousand bucks he never produces his irrefutable evidence. Any takers tb40, bluefish, Lane, Jtex???

This is what Repugs do:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...75bcac8fb30898&ei=51

Trump Prosecutor Fani Willis Gets Bad News
Story by David Rufful •
4h

Georgia state Senator Colton Moore says he has enough support to impeach and remove Willis. This requires a supermajority of “3/5 of each respective house” in the state legislature.

“As a Georgia State Senator, I am officially calling for an emergency session to review the actions of Fani Willis,” Moore said. “America is under attack. I’m not going to sit back and watch as radical left prosecutors politically TARGET political opponents.”

“We, the undersigned, being duly elected members of the Georgia House of Representatives and Georgia Senate, and comprising 3/5 of each respective house, pursuant to Article IV, Section II, Paragraph VII(b), hereby certify to you, in writing, with a copy to the Secretary of State, that in our opinion an emergency exists in the affairs of the state, requiring a special session to be convened under that section, for all purposes, to include, without limitation, the review and response to the actions of Fani Willis,” Moore said.

Referring to Republican Georgia governor Brian Kemp, Moore said, “Tell Brian Kemp and his team to turn off CNN and open their eyes. I’ve done 25 TV, radio, and podcast interviews with one identical message.”

“I need 3/5 of my colleagues to sign the letter,” Moore said. “The people of Georgia want action, not more empty promises from fluff politicians.”

Twitter:

"I launched the process to investigate Fani Willis for targeting Donald Trump.

No more empty promises.

No more talking in circles.

The time for action is NOW!

We must defund her office... and if appropriate... IMPEACH."

Although Kemp is a Republican, he is accused of turning on Trump and helping Willis with his testimony to the Fulton County special grand jury in the case. Trump backed the Republican primary challenger against Kemp in 2022.

Kemp’s office refuses to support Moore’s effort to combat the wrongful political persecution of Trump. Kemps says Moore has not provided evidence that he has the necessary support to call a special session to impeach Willis.

“We have not been provided any evidence to support that assertion,” Kemp spokesman Garrison Douglas said.

“Given the governor was subpoenaed in this case in November of 2022, our office will not be commenting further,” he added, referring to Kemp’s continued involvement in the Democrats’ case against Trump.

Kemp’s senior advisers, Cody Hall, said, “Where have I heard special session, changing decades-old law, and overturning constitutional precedent before?”

“Oh right, prior to Republicans losing two Senate runoffs in January of 2021,” he added. “What are people hoping to learn in the second kick of the election-losing mule?”

https://youtu.be/1vAkwWfe2_g

Judge FINALLY imposes gag order on Trump in his Georgia RICO case

28 minutes ago

https://youtu.be/6uByA4SrQwM

the new consent bond order for Defendant Donald Trump in Fulton County, Georgia

40 minutes ago