Harsh....but well-deserved.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/05...onspiracy/index.html

Mike, what would you guess he will actually serve, providing he behaves?

80% to 85% in federal cases is what I always hear. Assuming he behaves himself.

It isn't like state court sentencing where you serve a third.

But, his prison cell will probably be air conditioned.

These judges are sending a message with these long prison terms.

Screw around with the democratic process and you will pay a fearful price.

I almost feel sorry for the dude. Almost.

That would be fine if he had been trying to rob the First National Bank of Pigknuckle, Arkansas or Pearls' Bait and Jewelry in Broke-Ass Oklahoma, but these dirtbags were trying to steal DEMOCRACY!

Should be given to a dozen pissed-off Apaches, no questions asked, let them practice a bit of ancient culture.

He'll probably do close to 18. Unless trump is re-elected. Then, he'll be pardoned.

What an idiot. All because he is a cult member....and, trump will probably never serve a day.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
He'll probably do close to 18. Unless trump is re-elected. Then, he'll be pardoned.

What an idiot. All because he is a cult member....and, trump will probably never serve a day.

Gonna be a lot of pardons if Trump is reelected.

Grizz

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
He'll probably do close to 18. Unless trump is re-elected. Then, he'll be pardoned.

What an idiot. All because he is a cult member....and, trump will probably never serve a day.

Not much chance he's stacking Good Time, he'll jump straight into a gang, I don't know if he'll pass the color chart for the really cool ones but regardless he'll be required to do enough illegal shit to blow any Good Time, unless he can roll over on a leader of a prison riot with Federal fatalities he's a great candidate to do at least every day.

Or get shanked early. He's going where a lot of folks have the same last name: Don'tGiveAShit. Nothing they do will ever change their sentence, and more than a few of those derive their life's primary pleasure from how they are regarded within that "family". That's a "family" with very diverse interests and viewpoints.

They need to rebrand, I thought the proud boys were some sort of gay related organisation when I first heard of it.

But he told the judge he was SO sorry.

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
He'll probably do close to 18. Unless trump is re-elected. Then, he'll be pardoned.

What an idiot. All because he is a cult member....and, trump will probably never serve a day.

Gonna be a lot of pardons if Trump is reelected.

Grizz

Grizz, you are right. trump will have the pardon lawyers busy.

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Originally posted by wymple:
But he told the judge he was SO sorry.

Yeah, they all do.

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Originally posted by nute:
They need to rebrand, I thought the proud boys were some sort of gay related organisation when I first heard of it.

Same. Not that there is anything wrong with gay-related organizations. But, that name seems....gay.

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Screw around with the democratic process and you will pay a fearful price.

Hahahaha!

You have absolutely no idea what democracy is!

Keep on cheer leading for Commie Kamala!

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Screw around with the democratic process and you will pay a fearful price.

Hahahaha!

You have absolutely no idea what democracy is!

Keep on cheer leading for Commie Kamala!

We should take lessons from you? What a joke.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Screw around with the democratic process and you will pay a fearful price.

Hahahaha!

You have absolutely no idea what democracy is!

Keep on cheer leading for Commie Kamala!

We should take lessons from you? What a joke.

Exactly!

WHAT A JOKE of a stupid lot thinking of "democracy" and have no idea what it means!

You lot have become the laughing stock of the world.

Thank you for providing us with non stop comedy!

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You lot have become the laughing stock of the world.

And everyone still trying to get in......

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Originally posted by wymple:

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You lot have become the laughing stock of the world.

And everyone still trying to get in......

Ever wondered why?

Because your stupid politicians, who are chosen by even more stupid voters, have big arseholes and big mouths.

And no brains!

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by wymple:

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You lot have become the laughing stock of the world.

And everyone still trying to get in......

Ever wondered why?

Because your stupid politicians, who are chosen by even more stupid voters, have big arseholes and big mouths.

And no brains!

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Harsh....but well-deserved.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/05...onspiracy/index.html

He thought he was doing what his president said to do, much like the guys who went to Vietnam in the 1960s.

For this, 22 years is a lot of time. Many of those Vietnam-era draftees were in-country for the rest of their lives...

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Harsh....but well-deserved.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/05...onspiracy/index.html

He thought he was doing what his president said to do, much like the guys who went to Vietnam in the 1960s.

For this, 22 years is a lot of time. Many of those Vietnam-era draftees were in-country for the rest of their lives...

He may well have been doing exactly what the President who had lost re-election told him to do, three weeks before Jan 6th he was a guest at the White House.

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Originally posted by wymple:

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You lot have become the laughing stock of the world.

And everyone still trying to get in......

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66733230

This guy tried to get out ….

Florida man arrested after trying to cross Atlantic in hamster wheel vessel

Actually, in the off chance Trump is re-elected, odds are better that they stay in. Trump is about what you can do for me, not what you did for me.

These guys will expect a pardon and it will just be forgotten… like so many of his other promises.

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
He'll probably do close to 18. Unless trump is re-elected. Then, he'll be pardoned.

What an idiot. All because he is a cult member....and, trump will probably never serve a day.

Gonna be a lot of pardons if Trump is reelected.

Grizz

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Actually, in the off chance Trump is re-elected, odds are better that they stay in. Trump is about what you can do for me, not what you did for me.

These guys will expect a pardon and it will just be forgotten… like so many of his other promises.

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
He'll probably do close to 18. Unless trump is re-elected. Then, he'll be pardoned.

What an idiot. All because he is a cult member....and, trump will probably never serve a day.

Gonna be a lot of pardons if Trump is reelected.

Grizz

Isn't there a limit to how many he can give? No doubt he will expect something in return.

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Actually, in the off chance Trump is re-elected, odds are better that they stay in. Trump is about what you can do for me, not what you did for me.

These guys will expect a pardon and it will just be forgotten… like so many of his other promises.

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
He'll probably do close to 18. Unless trump is re-elected. Then, he'll be pardoned.

What an idiot. All because he is a cult member....and, trump will probably never serve a day.

Gonna be a lot of pardons if Trump is reelected.

Grizz

Isn't there a limit to how many he can give? No doubt he will expect something in return.

At the end it appears he was selling them at $1 million each, plus whatever the broker (Kushner, Stone, maybe Mnuchin) tacked on.

It is entirely possible that those pardons will factor in a future indictment, he has more coming.

I would expect the next big one to involve elected co-conspirators who got in on the attempt to push the steal through on the House floor, and if Smith is working chronologically the wire fraud for fundraising off of known lies will fall in the second half of next year.

And if I'm not mistaken there's still a very quiet grand jury in New Jersey that would be handling any transfer of any of the classified documents that changed hands, if any did.

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Actually, in the off chance Trump is re-elected, odds are better that they stay in. Trump is about what you can do for me, not what you did for me.

These guys will expect a pardon and it will just be forgotten… like so many of his other promises.

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
He'll probably do close to 18. Unless trump is re-elected. Then, he'll be pardoned.

What an idiot. All because he is a cult member....and, trump will probably never serve a day.

Gonna be a lot of pardons if Trump is reelected.

Grizz

Isn't there a limit to how many he can give? No doubt he will expect something in return.

Past loyalty doesn't count for much, as Cohen found out. Since they were unsuccessful in getting him re-elected, he owes them nothing...

Interestingly, CNN fails to mention that he used to be an informant for the Feds.
22yrs seems a bit stiff for a guy who wasn’t even at the Capitol on the 6th - maybe a little bit of extra time for a guy they thought was supposed to be their asset.

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Originally posted by Huvius:
Interestingly, CNN fails to mention that he used to be an informant for the Feds.
22yrs seems a bit stiff for a guy who wasn’t even at the Capitol on the 6th - maybe a little bit of extra time for a guy they thought was supposed to be their asset.

Charles Manson and Osama bin Laden weren't present to see their handiwork finish.

Tarrio was certainly present for the conspiracy he was convicted of; he wasn't charged with trespassing.

Very harsh sentence.

If they are trying to send a message, lock up the bastard who started it.

THE MAGA ARSHOLE himself!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Very harsh sentence.

If they are trying to send a message, lock up the bastard who started it.

THE MAGA ARSHOLE himself!

Patience, Saeed, patience.

He has 91 charges, so far, and very possibly that many more coming.

Tarrio is a prime candidate to try to make a deal, but since he's already been sentenced he'd have to bring some premium stuff, with verification, to the table.

Like what he was doing at the White House three weeks before the attack on the Capitol.

And Roger Stone.

And Michael Flynn.