I posted these laws in the main thread, but I am sue they will be ignored.

Dr. Butler assumed this minor would go to juvenile jail. In KY that is incorrect.

Below is some relevant law from Virginia. In short this minor is too young to be transferred as committing a crime to Circuit, adult court.

This minor is too young to be disposed (sentenced) to confinement in juve court.

There are some statutes (VA calls them codes) that allow this minor to be detained for evaluation and safety pending juv process.

I just looked up the Virginia Statute). It is almost word for word like KY’s. This minor is too young to be charged with a crime and tried. See below.

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/v.../chapter11/article7/

He is so young even in juvenile court, this child cannot be disposed to the Department of Juvenile Justice nor confinement in Juve Court

Only a juvenile who is (i) adjudicated as a delinquent of an act
enumerated in subsection B or C of § 16.1-269.1 and is 11 years of
age or older or (ii) 14 years of age or older may be committed to
the Department of Juvenile Justice.


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The court determines that:
Office of the Executive Secretary
Commit the juvenile to an appropriate state institution if the mental competency examination indicates that a juvenile is mentally ill or intellectually disabled.
Place the juvenile in a secure local facility, pursuant to Va. Code § 16.1-284.1:

Confinement only for up to thirty days inclusive of time served in a detention home or other secure facility if the juvenile:
is at least fourteen years old
Va. Code § 16.1-284.1

No, Dr. Butler the law does not allow what you assume for this young person.

This is why when the Sherry gave his interview he spoke of services to the child instead of punishment.

Again, I did not assume any such thing.

It was a rhetorical response as to what kind of federal law you want that will stop this.

If killing your fellow citizen is a state crime, as is juvenile safety and protection, I don’t see how you can constitutionally get there.

Most states already have laws about giving kids access to weapons inappropriately.

You are advocating for an unconstitutional usurpation of state authority under a mistaken thought it would make people safer.

I never mentioned incarceration of the minor. I knew that was not possible. You proffered, brought up, the incarceration.

This minor is too young to have legally be held responsible for a crime.

The parents allowed the access. The parents need to be held responsible. We need a national law. Then parents will start to insure their guns are not being taken by their children.

No Court has ever been asked to determine if that is unconstitutional. No one is saying guy cannot have a gun in the home. What I am saying is, you own it, you are responsible for not keeping it out of your child’s hands when harm comes when you do not take responsible precautions.

You have no idea if such a law is unconstitutional.

I am willing to bet as shown by the NFA and the GCA (Gun Control Act) that such a law is constitutional.

Kids get guns for violence and Suicide from home. It is time to codify the NRA own it, respect it, secure it campaign into law.

Only, a law will see parents take responsibility and secure firearms.

I guarantee you more parents would take precautions to make sure their firearms secured and not being taken to schools if a law was in place that made them responsible for the violence that comes. That would reduce, not eliminate, these events and child suicides.

Actually, such a law would be very similar to the current Federal Law that says firearms in homes of those under Guardianship have to be secured from the ward. That law has not been overturned.

When my boys were young + still at home, I would NEVER leave a loaded revolver in the house. Way too easy for anyone to shoot. I kept a 1911 in my bedside nightstand drawer with nothing in the chamber, as at that time they did not have the strength to work the slide. Realistically, you can never hide anything from your kids in the home, they will always find it.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I posted these laws in the main thread, but I am sue they will be ignored.

You could pass these laws, and they would still be ignored....

The young woman who purchased some/most of the firearms for the Columbine shooters was never charged for her strawman purchases.

I don't see how these laws will change peoples' behavior if they are not enforced. We don't seem to have a shortage of gun laws, yet these crimes continue. How will one more law help?

The parents can be gone after with civil law where the bar is lower.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
The parents can be gone after with civil law where the bar is lower.

Seems strange I haven't heard anything about the parents role in this.

Grizz

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Originally posted by ledvm:
The parents can be gone after with civil law where the bar is lower.

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The parents may not have a pot to piss in.