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Originally posted by nute:
Three things:

1) Musk has said various things which are not true in the recent past. What make this any different?

a) I have yet to see credible proof of that.
b) A named source who owns what he says trumps (pun intended) anonymous sources every time for me. Anonymous Sources is another name for propaganda.

2) Ive given you examples above. You can google them yourself.

Where I see nothing credible. The jury remains out for me on this arm of Reuters being paid for dubious work.

3) You are scratching about trying to prove that Reuters, AP etc lie, yet you seem completely unconcerned by the lies which pour from Trumps mouth.

I think it is pretty clear now that Reuters has its own political agenda.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
Lane creates his own reality, actual reality be damned. The BBC, Reuters, the AP all propaganda. Fox News, "X", One America Network etc are beacons of truth

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by nute:
Three things:

1) Musk has said various things which are not true in the recent past. What make this any different?

a) I have yet to see credible proof of that.
b) A named source who owns what he says trumps (pun intended) anonymous sources every time for me. Anonymous Sources is another name for propaganda. A news organisation protecting its sources isn't unusual. Musk saying or promoting things which are inaccurate is also not unusual

2) Ive given you examples above. You can google them yourself.

Where I see nothing credible. The jury remains out for me on this arm of Reuters being paid for dubious work. If you choose not to see anything credible that's up to you. Musk was crowing about condoms sent to Gaza which wasn't true. See also comments on the Swedish spree shooting.

3) You are scratching about trying to prove that Reuters, AP etc lie, yet you seem completely unconcerned by the lies which pour from Trumps mouth.

I think it is pretty clear now that Reuters has its own political agenda. It seems rather obvious that you do. You are trying to prove lies by a news organisation yet remain completely silent about the elephant in the room

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Originally posted by nute:
Three things:

1) Musk has said various things which are not true in the recent past. What make this any different?

2) Ive given you examples above. You can google them yourself.

3) You are scratching about trying to prove that Reuters, AP etc lie, yet you seem completely unconcerned by the lies which pour from Trumps mouth.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by nute:
Three things:

1) Musk has said various things which are not true in the recent past. What make this any different?

a) I have yet to see credible proof of that.
b) A named source who owns what he says trumps (pun intended) anonymous sources every time for me. Anonymous Sources is another name for propaganda.

2) Ive given you examples above. You can google them yourself.

Where I see nothing credible. The jury remains out for me on this arm of Reuters being paid for dubious work.

3) You are scratching about trying to prove that Reuters, AP etc lie, yet you seem completely unconcerned by the lies which pour from Trumps mouth.

I think it is pretty clear now that Reuters has its own political agenda.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The willingness to overlook their Great Leader's blatant lies is one of the most baffling things about Trump cult members.

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Originally posted by nute:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by nute:
Three things:

1) Musk has said various things which are not true in the recent past. What make this any different?

a) I have yet to see credible proof of that.
b) A named source who owns what he says trumps (pun intended) anonymous sources every time for me. Anonymous Sources is another name for propaganda. A news organisation protecting its sources isn't unusual. Musk saying or promoting things which are inaccurate is also not unusual
While not unusual…history is rife with abuse of the tactic. Haven’t observed Elon being on the wrong side of things myself.

2) Ive given you examples above. You can google them yourself.

Where I see nothing credible. The jury remains out for me on this arm of Reuters being paid for dubious work. If you choose not to see anything credible that's up to you. Musk was crowing about condoms sent to Gaza which wasn't true. See also comments on the Swedish spree shooting.
Condoms were going to Gaza — Gaza Province of Mozambique. He clarified the mistake publicly. As to the Swedish shooting…all he did was retweet a tweet that said the media was not covering it as vividly as it should be covered — nothing more.

3) You are scratching about trying to prove that Reuters, AP etc lie, yet you seem completely unconcerned by the lies which pour from Trumps mouth.

I think it is pretty clear now that Reuters has its own political agenda. It seems rather obvious that you do. You are trying to prove lies by a news organisation yet remain completely silent about the elephant in the room I guess that would be because I see no elephant in the room. Just the echo of more propaganda.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The willingness to overlook their Great Leader's blatant lies is one of the most baffling things about Trump cult members.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by nute:
Three things:

1) Musk has said various things which are not true in the recent past. What make this any different?

a) I have yet to see credible proof of that.
b) A named source who owns what he says trumps (pun intended) anonymous sources every time for me. Anonymous Sources is another name for propaganda.

2) Ive given you examples above. You can google them yourself.

Where I see nothing credible. The jury remains out for me on this arm of Reuters being paid for dubious work.

3) You are scratching about trying to prove that Reuters, AP etc lie, yet you seem completely unconcerned by the lies which pour from Trumps mouth.

I think it is pretty clear now that Reuters has its own political agenda.

Not really to any of your red statements. They are just that, your statements. Keep reachinf. You make better arguments against you than anyone else could.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The willingness to overlook their Great Leader's blatant lies is one of the most baffling things about Trump cult members.

The vast majority of the so called “blatant lies” are figments of your imagination. Everybody throws the accusation around no one ever speaks about what the actual lie is.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The willingness to overlook their Great Leader's blatant lies is one of the most baffling things about Trump cult members.

The vast majority of the so called “blatant lies” are figments of your imagination. Everybody throws the accusation around no one ever speaks about what the actual lie is.

The easiest example is the orange asshole still claiming the 2020 election was stolen.

You are a brainwashed cult member Lane, it's sad to see. I bet once upon a time you had some credibility, no longer.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The willingness to overlook their Great Leader's blatant lies is one of the most baffling things about Trump cult members.

The vast majority of the so called “blatant lies” are figments of your imagination. Everybody throws the accusation around no one ever speaks about what the actual lie is.

The easiest example is the orange asshole still claiming the 2020 election was stolen.

You are a brainwashed cult member Lane, it's sad to see. I bet once upon a time you had some credibility, no longer.

My credibility is worth money in the real world Steve and its value is holding just fine.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The willingness to overlook their Great Leader's blatant lies is one of the most baffling things about Trump cult members.

The vast majority of the so called “blatant lies” are figments of your imagination. Everybody throws the accusation around no one ever speaks about what the actual lie is.

The easiest example is the orange asshole still claiming the 2020 election was stolen.

You are a brainwashed cult member Lane, it's sad to see. I bet once upon a time you had some credibility, no longer.

My credibility is worth money in the real world Steve and its value is holding just fine.

You have none, you have been parroting Trump's lies for years. I wouldn't believe you if you told me the sky was blue and the sun is yellow, it would need verification.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The willingness to overlook their Great Leader's blatant lies is one of the most baffling things about Trump cult members.

The vast majority of the so called “blatant lies” are figments of your imagination. Everybody throws the accusation around no one ever speaks about what the actual lie is.

The easiest example is the orange asshole still claiming the 2020 election was stolen.

You are a brainwashed cult member Lane, it's sad to see. I bet once upon a time you had some credibility, no longer.

My credibility is worth money in the real world Steve and its value is holding just fine.

You have none, you have been parroting Trump's lies for years. I wouldn't believe you if you told me the sky was blue and the sun is yellow, it would need verification.

And that just shows that in the real world what you think is meaningless.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The willingness to overlook their Great Leader's blatant lies is one of the most baffling things about Trump cult members.

The vast majority of the so called “blatant lies” are figments of your imagination. Everybody throws the accusation around no one ever speaks about what the actual lie is.

The easiest example is the orange asshole still claiming the 2020 election was stolen.

You are a brainwashed cult member Lane, it's sad to see. I bet once upon a time you had some credibility, no longer.

My credibility is worth money in the real world Steve and its value is holding just fine.

You have none, you have been parroting Trump's lies for years. I wouldn't believe you if you told me the sky was blue and the sun is yellow, it would need verification.

And that just shows that in the real world what you think is meaningless.

You exemplify the new GOP under Trump, truth no longer matters, only winning matters. What a shining example of a Christian you Lane

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The willingness to overlook their Great Leader's blatant lies is one of the most baffling things about Trump cult members.

The vast majority of the so called “blatant lies” are figments of your imagination. Everybody throws the accusation around no one ever speaks about what the actual lie is.

The easiest example is the orange asshole still claiming the 2020 election was stolen.

You are a brainwashed cult member Lane, it's sad to see. I bet once upon a time you had some credibility, no longer.

My credibility is worth money in the real world Steve and its value is holding just fine.

You have none, you have been parroting Trump's lies for years. I wouldn't believe you if you told me the sky was blue and the sun is yellow, it would need verification.

And that just shows that in the real world what you think is meaningless.

You exemplify the new GOP under Trump, truth no longer matters, only winning matters. What a shining example of a Christian you Lane

In all matters you mention here…the “truth” does matter. And like all nuts…when the truth is not on your side…you resort to ad hominem attacks.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The willingness to overlook their Great Leader's blatant lies is one of the most baffling things about Trump cult members.

The vast majority of the so called “blatant lies” are figments of your imagination. Everybody throws the accusation around no one ever speaks about what the actual lie is.

The easiest example is the orange asshole still claiming the 2020 election was stolen.

You are a brainwashed cult member Lane, it's sad to see. I bet once upon a time you had some credibility, no longer.

My credibility is worth money in the real world Steve and its value is holding just fine.

You have none, you have been parroting Trump's lies for years. I wouldn't believe you if you told me the sky was blue and the sun is yellow, it would need verification.

And that just shows that in the real world what you think is meaningless.

You exemplify the new GOP under Trump, truth no longer matters, only winning matters. What a shining example of a Christian you Lane

In all matters you mention here…the “truth” does matter. And like all nuts…when the truth is not on your side…you resort to ad hominem attacks.

Tell me a story about "anomalies" Lane

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Originally posted by ledvm:


Tell me a story about "anomalies" Lane

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by nute:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by nute:
Three things:

1) Musk has said various things which are not true in the recent past. What make this any different?

a) I have yet to see credible proof of that.
b) A named source who owns what he says trumps (pun intended) anonymous sources every time for me. Anonymous Sources is another name for propaganda. A news organisation protecting its sources isn't unusual. Musk saying or promoting things which are inaccurate is also not unusual
While not unusual…history is rife with abuse of the tactic. Haven’t observed Elon being on the wrong side of things myself. Musk himself has said that he may say things which are inaccurate, so you have it from the horses mouth. Since these claims about Gaza have come out Trump has said that it was $100m not $50m and that they were used for making bombs. Both untrue.

2) Ive given you examples above. You can google them yourself.

Where I see nothing credible. The jury remains out for me on this arm of Reuters being paid for dubious work. If you choose not to see anything credible that's up to you. Musk was crowing about condoms sent to Gaza which wasn't true. See also comments on the Swedish spree shooting.
Condoms were going to Gaza — Gaza Province of Mozambique. He clarified the mistake publicly. As to the Swedish shooting…all he did was retweet a tweet that said the media was not covering it as vividly as it should be covered — nothing more. Here we are a few weeks later and still no evidence that Reuters have done anything wrong. If Musk/Trump actually had anything on this they wouldn't be keeping quiet given the enthusiasm of both for smearing AP and Reuters because they won't kow tow to Trump/Musk.

3) You are scratching about trying to prove that Reuters, AP etc lie, yet you seem completely unconcerned by the lies which pour from Trumps mouth.

I think it is pretty clear now that Reuters has its own political agenda. It seems rather obvious that you do. You are trying to prove lies by a news organisation yet remain completely silent about the elephant in the room I guess that would be because I see no elephant in the room. Just the echo of more propaganda. You see no elephant in the room because you choose not to. We are here discussing untruths but you are blind to it. Ukraine started the war (Trump), the 2 astronauts on the space station were stranded there for political purposes (Musk), Condoms for Gaza were for Hamas (Trump), the US is the only country with birthright citizenship (Trump) blah blah blah, there are thousands of examples, but you chose to be blind to it.