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I like guns - mainly rifles.

I have moved to the blaser platform and will be using them for my diminishing hunting and increased range shooting over the foreseeable future.

I tired to sell a few guns and was surprised how little value there is for mil spec low end ARs. Glad i only had one.

My goal is to right size my guns. Replace low value guns with higher value better investment guns. My investment goal is keep value with inflation.

Anyone like any specific gun categories - colt pythons, military bolts, specific hunting rifles, etc.

Is there any cool alternatives - knives etc.

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It is all in the buy not the sale.

I buy guns to use and enjoy.

I tend to buy on the free open market and I tend to buy used.

When I sell a firearm I make money not much. which I do not do very often.
If one hits the market just right one can make money.

Have some made a good deal yes but every body is watching for the widow lady selling her husbands Winchester model 21 grand American for 500.00 or the H@H double that just been laying around.


Custom firearms are a losing prostitution as seen here many times.



There are better investments.
 
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I don't consider firearms an investment vehicle anymore than baseball cards or old Playboy magazines.

Although I guess you could say a lot of things you hang onto for forty or fifty years can go up in value. (I wish I had held onto a new 1978 Plymouth Roadrunner I bought for $2,600.)

p dog shooter's first sentence says it all. If you don't "buy" at the right price you are pretty well screwed.
 
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I also buy firearms to use, however, it is a fact of life that in many cases, inflation means that new guns cost more than older guns, and hence, older guns can be sold for more than you paid for it. The example you give, however, provides a counterexample. Manufacturing volumes and improved methods, have significantly lowered the price of new AR15 style firearms. Just be glad you didn't buy one when they were going for $1200 during the "Obama scare". The prices on these seem to have bottomed however.
So, guns ARE one of the few things that one can buy, use, and then sell for at least what one paid! Bottom line is that if you buy quality, you will not be disappointed either at the purchase or at the sale.
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My first gun was a ruger 10/22 in 1988. I think I bought it for $159 at Walmart.

Academy sells the gun for $199 today.

Colt pythons or even sks have appreciated significantly.

The other issue with guns is storage.

I just need to spot being an anti gold bug and buy some physical gold.

Anyone know how watches have appreciated over time (I don't wear a watch) ?

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It always boils down to what the market will bear.Guns are a great investment if you enjoy using them + then if you need to sell that you have a lot of time to do so.If you have to sell in a hurry you WILL take it in the shorts.I know that from personel experience. When I went through my divorce several years ago I had to come up with CASh,fast. So the guns went (at about a dime on a dollar).When everything was liquidated I was still $1000.00 short of my payoff amount + I was sweating bullets so as not lose house + land. Out of the blue this old lady who goes to church with my mother called me up. Her husband had died from a heart attack a couple of years before + she asked me to get rid of all his reloading things. I did. She calls me up + says she has found some pistols of his in an old ice chest + she wants them gone because of the grandkids,etc. I tell her I can't afford to buy them ,she says no just come + get them. I am on my way. Thinking to myself,don't get exited they are probably pieces of junk.When I get there they are NEW pieces. A Ruger S101,A berretta 92 SB,+ a Walther PPK.That made up my final difference in the money needed. Is that a God thing or what?


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I seem to have a real knack for buying high and selling low so I buy what I want, pay the price, and live with the consequences. The idea of buying say a brand new colt pistol and putting it up without shooting it is totally foreign to me.


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No. No. And...no.


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Watches? As I said, if you buy quality you will NEVER be disappointed! I have an IWC which I bought in 1970 which is worth a couple of thousand now. Same with Patek Phillipe. Now, again, this is a very limited market. Electronic watches are much cheaper and keep better time, but many folks like the fact that a Swiss made watch is a masterpiece of mechanical engineering and manufacture.
The point I am trying to make is that there is significant joy and satisfaction in owning a fine piece of anything! Whether someone else appreciates the same thing is up to them!
The same applies to double rifles. Although that market seems to be rather fickle, I still enjoyed my ownership of my K gun and my Blaser S2.
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Time may well prove me wrong, but I wouldn't BUY any colt python or similar at current pricing levels.


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Damn skippy, and all these years I've thought a watch was to tell time. How can you say a watch is a fine example of precision craftsmanship if it can't keep time as well as a Timex? Smiler


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Damn skippy, and all these years I've thought a watch was to tell time. How can you say a watch is a fine example of precision craftsmanship if it can't keep time as well as a Timex? Smiler


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You should have bought all the M1 carbines, 20 years ago. Thy have appreciated quite a bit.


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Yep,30 years ago I was paying $50.00 each. I was also paying $200.00 for all matching serial #'s Lugers. Times change;we can't keep them all.


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Ah yes, in my 20's, I lived in Alexandria VA and I used to go to the showroom of Interarmco. They had trash cans full of various milsup rifles for sale at $5-$10 each.


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Well if we really want to go back,I lived in Hampton,Va. in the mid 60's.This was a seaport town + the A+N stores abounded,combined with the fact that the last real war was WW2 so the stores were filled with German paraphenalia.I bought Iron crosses for 2 bucks,bayonets for 1.50,ad nauseum.WW1 knuckle dusters for .50 cents,navel uniforms for a song,it's all gone now but the deals were fabulous.


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