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A nuclear engineer friend of mine was taught boot lace tying by an Army instructor. The Army doesn't like their men stopping in mid-mission to bend over and re-tying their boots, so a technique was provided.
Perhaps it will help hunters too.
The technique is on a YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ature=youtu.be&t=19s


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What most of us do is simply double tie them. Works and is slightly faster.
 
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What most of us do is simply double tie them. Works and is slightly faster.


But the Youtube version is neater.


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Tying an additional overhand knot in the loops (Double tying)
is both faster to accomplish and not prone to untying itself when walking in brush that tends to "grab" the free end.

The method shown still leaves one loop vulnerable to getting snagged and pulled, and thus untying the shoes.


The only advantage to the method shown is that the shoes can be untied quickly by pulling that one free end.

Double knotting the laces cannot often be untied quickly and that is generally the point.


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I "double knot" mine. Never had a problem.


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The method shown still leaves one loop vulnerable to getting snagged and pulled, and thus untying the shoes.


I agree about one loop being vulnerable.

For the past 20 years I have been using a method similar to the video, but instead of going under the loose end and back through the hold, I go over the loose end and back through the hole.

This knot comes undone when you pull booth loose ends, but it will never come undone by itself.

Here is a link.


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Back in the 70s my uncle taught me a way for boots what he called the Maine guide knot.

One take the opposite lace make a loop push the loop through the opposite eye take the end put them through the opposite loops.

Pull them tight They don't come loose and are very easy to get untied.
 
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Why do I think we've got way too much time on our hands?

If I can't tie my shoes without them coming undone, I'm either four years old; or can no longer reach my shoes. In either case, this discussion won't help.
 
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Why do I think we've got way too much time on our hands?

If I can't tie my shoes without them coming undone, I'm either four years old; or can no longer reach my shoes. In either case, this discussion won't help.


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Kudos for thinking that up. A great one for activities at the nursing home. In between nap times...
 
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Why do I think we've got way too much time on our hands?

If I can't tie my shoes without them coming undone, I'm either four years old; or can no longer reach my shoes. In either case, this discussion won't help.


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My problem with tying shoes is time duration.

I gotta tie 'em fast. I can't breathe when I am bent over!!!!!!

Kinda like folding a grapefruit! Big Grin


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My problem with tying shoes is time duration.

I gotta tie 'em fast. I can't breathe when I am bent over!!!!!!

Kinda like folding a grapefruit! Big Grin

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When wearing boots, the problem I have experienced is that the laces come untied by catching grass or brush. If a loose end gets pulled the knot comes undone. If a loop gets pulled then it leaves a long lace flapping around. So, after spending decades walking, running, and crawling through woods, brush, and grasses, I have come upon a very simple and effective method of tying boots.

1. Tighten the laces by pulling them, cross them over and under just as you would in the first part of a standard lace knot, and pull tight.
2. Pass each lace around the back, just below the top of the boot, and bring back into the forward position. If the back of the boot has a pull strap then pass them through that too.
3. Tie a square knot. The laces are now short enough that they won't flap around. If you want to bring them in more then tie a half-hitch with each end.

The laces will not untie nor pull loose. The square knot is easily untied. Just be careful not to tie them in a Granny knot.

This method has worked for me on six continents.




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I haven't been doing that on six continents, but I have done it for six decades. Upland hunting, bird, deer, etc. I suspect we all have. But, it takes real long laces to wrap all the way around. My boots allow the square knot to be tied in back after going thru the boot straps.

I'll tell you the best thing about extra long boot laces.

After twenty years my left boot sole got soaked on the worst rain I've ever dove hunted in. And it fell off. Inner layer was decayed. So I take off the lace and use it to tie the sole to the boot and on we go with the hunt.

..anyway, an untied boot lace was the least of the problems...
 
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When wearing boots, the problem I have experienced is that the laces come untied by catching grass or brush. If a loose end gets pulled the knot comes undone. If a loop gets pulled then it leaves a long lace flapping around. So, after spending decades walking, running, and crawling through woods, brush, and grasses, I have come upon a very simple and effective method of tying boots.

1. Tighten the laces by pulling them, cross them over and under just as you would in the first part of a standard lace knot, and pull tight.
2. Pass each lace around the back, just below the top of the boot, and bring back into the forward position. If the back of the boot has a pull strap then pass them through that too.
3. Tie a square knot. The laces are now short enough that they won't flap around. If you want to bring them in more then tie a half-hitch with each end.

The laces will not untie nor pull loose. The square knot is easily untied. Just be careful not to tie them in a Granny knot.

This method has worked for me on six continents.


I think I would black out before I got all that accomplished! I'll just use pull ons!


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I wore Red Wing, slip-ons, most of my career, but about five years ago one of our safety guys recommended a Finnish company called Sievi. They had a steel-toed boot that had a zipper on the side, but laces on the front. I think it was called the Aurora. You laced it once, to get the fit, and from then on you just zipped it off and on. It was great when you were on the rigs because you were constantly going from the drill floor or below decks, to the accommodation, and having to take your boots off each time. The guys that worked on the rigs full-time thought the Sievi didn't hold up as well as lace-ups, particularly in synthetic oil-based mud, but they were damn-sure convenient. I still wear mine when working outside at home.

Just a side-note. Many of our guys, including myself, for years, preferred slip-ons because of all the tying and untying with lace-ups all day long. Unfortunately, we had so many rolled-ankles I had to outlaw slip-ons. They just didn't provide the support that lace-ups do.

The only lace-ups I own now are hunting boots, and every time I go to tie them I've got to take out my smart phone, or car keys, or something from my pockets so I can bend over to tie them. They're a pain.
 
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I now make things easy on myself. No more lace up boots.

I have been tempted to order a pair of Filson bird boots, but don't want to go back to messing with laces.

These days, for really cold or wet stuff, it's the high thick rubber kind. Redball insulated camos. Otherwise Farm & Ranch Justins. I wear them constantly out yonder. Slip right on and off. You just have to be careful where you step because of no ankle support. But I've gotten used to them. They're OK.
 
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