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From the economist

Because China is so populous and is developing so quickly, it is responsible for a remarkable share of global change. Since the start of the financial crisis in 2008, for example, China has accounted for 45% of the gain in world GDP. In 1990 some 750m Chinese people lived in extreme poverty; today fewer than 10m do. That represents two-thirds of the world’s decline in poverty during that time. China is also responsible for half of the total increase in patent applications over the same period.

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If it was not for China all American high tech companies would be bankrupt clap


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If it was not for China all American high tech companies would be bankrupt clap


If not for American (and Japanese) high tech companies, China would still be struggling just to grow enough rice and pork (wonderful barbecued pork).


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If it was not for China all American high tech companies would be bankrupt clap


If not for American (and Japanese) high tech companies, China would still be struggling just to grow enough rice and pork (wonderful barbecued pork).


We have an old proverb “only pigs eat pigs!” clap


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Well, that accounts for all of Asia as well as the West.
You poor folks forced to live with kosher/hallal rules will never know the joy of bacon and eggs for breakfast, or a nice ham and Swiss on rye.

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Well, that accounts for all of Asia as well as the West.
You poor folks forced to live with kosher/hallal rules will never know the joy of bacon and eggs for breakfast, or a nice ham and Swiss on rye.

hilbily


Is there anything better than bacon? I mean really?

Ounce for ounce, it's the most flavorful meat in the world!!!
 
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Well, that accounts for all of Asia as well as the West.
You poor folks forced to live with kosher/hallal rules will never know the joy of bacon and eggs for breakfast, or a nice ham and Swiss on rye.

hilbily


Is there anything better than bacon? I mean really?

Ounce for ounce, it's the most flavorful meat in the world!!!


Steak Big Grin

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Well, that accounts for all of Asia as well as the West.
You poor folks forced to live with kosher/hallal rules will never know the joy of bacon and eggs for breakfast, or a nice ham and Swiss on rye.

hilbily


Is there anything better than bacon? I mean really?

Ounce for ounce, it's the most flavorful meat in the world!!!


Steak Big Grin

Mike


I’m not usually a straight-up steak guy but I recently had a filet from grass-ranged Boran cattle and it was the best damn piece of meat I’ve ever had.
 
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Well, that accounts for all of Asia as well as the West.
You poor folks forced to live with kosher/hallal rules will never know the joy of bacon and eggs for breakfast, or a nice ham and Swiss on rye.

hilbily


Is there anything better than bacon? I mean really?

Ounce for ounce, it's the most flavorful meat in the world!!!


Steak Big Grin

Mike


You wouldn't want a 12 ounce piece of bacon. It would be overpowering.

Steak yes. Bacon no.

That's why I stated, Ounce for Ounce, it's the most flavorful meat.
 
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Well, that accounts for all of Asia as well as the West.
You poor folks forced to live with kosher/hallal rules will never know the joy of bacon and eggs for breakfast, or a nice ham and Swiss on rye.

hilbily


Is there anything better than bacon? I mean really?

Ounce for ounce, it's the most flavorful meat in the world!!!


Steak Big Grin

Mike


You wouldn't want a 12 ounce piece of bacon. It would be overpowering.

Steak yes. Bacon no.

That's why I stated, Ounce for Ounce, it's the most flavorful meat.


Who eats a 12 ounce steaks ?

A real steak starts at 24 Big Grin

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Well, that accounts for all of Asia as well as the West.
You poor folks forced to live with kosher/hallal rules will never know the joy of bacon and eggs for breakfast, or a nice ham and Swiss on rye.

hilbily


Is there anything better than bacon? I mean really?

Ounce for ounce, it's the most flavorful meat in the world!!!


Steak Big Grin

Mike


You wouldn't want a 12 ounce piece of bacon. It would be overpowering.

Steak yes. Bacon no.

That's why I stated, Ounce for Ounce, it's the most flavorful meat.


Who eats a 12 ounce steaks ?

A real steak starts at 24 Big Grin

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Pfffft. 24? Try this on for size.

https://www.bigtexan.com/72-oz-steak/

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Damn! Now that's making me hungry. Years ago I worked with a heavy set guy who said, "Boys, there's only one thing in this life that's better than banana pudding.........Pecan Pie."


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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Well, that accounts for all of Asia as well as the West.
You poor folks forced to live with kosher/hallal rules will never know the joy of bacon and eggs for breakfast, or a nice ham and Swiss on rye.

hilbily


Is there anything better than bacon? I mean really?

Ounce for ounce, it's the most flavorful meat in the world!!!


Steak Big Grin

Mike


You wouldn't want a 12 ounce piece of bacon. It would be overpowering.

Steak yes. Bacon no.

That's why I stated, Ounce for Ounce, it's the most flavorful meat.


Who eats a 12 ounce steaks ?

A real steak starts at 24 Big Grin

Mike



Pfffft. 24? Try this on for size.

https://www.bigtexan.com/72-oz-steak/

faint


Tourist gimmick. Like needing to hunt Africa with a double rifle Big Grin


Some impressive consumers of beef in the record holders. Eating 72 ounces of beef in 20-22 min is a feat.


I will end up one day at the big Texan but I will pass on the 72 ounce steak.


The 40-48 once bone in prime ribeye at Costco look mighty tempting.


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I just read about cooking my breakfast bacon in an air fryer. Will try this. I must be a pig because I love eating pig!
Those that wish to can continue to be satisfied with far lesser meats such as goat and mutton, poor devils.

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I just read about cooking my breakfast bacon in an air fryer. Will try this. I must be a pig because I love eating pig!
Those that wish to can continue to be satisfied with far lesser meats such as goat and mutton, poor devils.

hilbily



Bake yer bacon. Best way to get consistent results.
 
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Yessir, cooking bacon in the oven is the best and easy way to cook bacon. You also get pure bacon fat to cook with.
 
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I have never tried to bake bacon in the oven; I've always cooked it on the stovetop in a cast-iron spider. There's always grease left from that too, + it is great to fry the eggs in.


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Oh, + Bill, if we are what we eat, I must be quite a conglomeration of many animals.


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I really like to do bacon in the oven as well.

The reason most suicide bombers are islamic......no bacon, no beer....they have nothing to live for Wink
 
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Originally posted by Todd Williams:
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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Well, that accounts for all of Asia as well as the West.
You poor folks forced to live with kosher/hallal rules will never know the joy of bacon and eggs for breakfast, or a nice ham and Swiss on rye.

hilbily


Is there anything better than bacon? I mean really?

Ounce for ounce, it's the most flavorful meat in the world!!!


Steak Big Grin

Mike


You wouldn't want a 12 ounce piece of bacon. It would be overpowering.

Steak yes. Bacon no.

That's why I stated, Ounce for Ounce, it's the most flavorful meat.


Who eats a 12 ounce steaks ?

A real steak starts at 24 Big Grin

Mike



Pfffft. 24? Try this on for size.

https://www.bigtexan.com/72-oz-steak/

faint


Tourist gimmick. Like needing to hunt Africa with a double rifle Big Grin


Some impressive consumers of beef in the record holders. Eating 72 ounces of beef in 20-22 min is a feat.


I will end up one day at the big Texan but I will pass on the 72 ounce steak.


The 40-48 once bone in prime ribeye at Costco look mighty tempting.


Mike


Ever since my Dad took us on an extended tour, driving the western United States when I was 10 years old, eating at The Big Texan has been almost a ritual for me passing through Amarillo. Whenever I drive through on the way to a hunt, eating there is mandatory!!!

I've never attempted the 72 oz steak but their more reasonable offerings are far from just a "tourist gimmick". They have some really great steaks on offer. Yeah, the cowboy decor is a gimmick but don't let that fool you when you go. You'll be in for some good eatin, Tejas style.
 
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The old hotel at Fort Peck sells a 20-ounce T-bone that was possibly the best one of my lifetime.

I like grilling antelope tidbits wrapped in bacon, works for goose breast as well.

For breakfast these days, Canadian bacon sauteed in olive oil. Healthy fat...

What seems like a very long time ago, I knew a Jewish kid who bought a Big Mac on his way home from school.
He snuck it into his bedroom in his book bag, locked the door, and ate it out of curiosity.
I believe that g_d forgave him, and his mother never knew.


TomP

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China is also responsible for half of the total increase in patent applications over the same period.

Mike

I wonder if they try to defend theirs in court since they have no problem blatantly stealing everyone else's patents without consequence.
 
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China is also responsible for half of the total increase in patent applications over the same period.

Mike

I wonder if they try to defend theirs in court since they have no problem blatantly stealing everyone else's patents without consequence.


Doubt it.

But the real barrier to technology theft and intellectual property theft has always been technology.

If a country does not have a necessary science and technological base it cannot steal intellectual property.

Zimbabwe ain’t stealing anyone’s ip. China is and can and the reason is the breath of their science and manufacturing base.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3n4giig3-FY

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I wonder if they try to defend theirs in court since they have no problem blatantly stealing everyone else's patents without consequence.


I doubt it too. My theory at this point is, find a market niche that China hasn't discovered yet and fill it. If it's too small to merit their attention you might go a long time with it, otherwise run it out six months and move on when they arrive on your doorstep.

There are numerous stories from companies who've gotten RMAs that look a little like their stuff but was made in China and peddled elsewhere.


TomP

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Fortune 500

Us companies 121
Chinese companies 119
Taiwanese companies 10


Add China and Taiwan (pretty integrated economies) its 129.

China alone will soon exceed the us on the Fortune 500.

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Their mindset is totally different from ours. Theft of Ideas is completely acceptable, not like here (I can't believe I just said that), but they do get away with it. Hey. I've got a novel idea; why don't we just pull out all the chocks + see what will float + what will not. Survivor of the fittest has ALWAYS been the 'law of the jungle'.


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One of my old friends + neighbors was a consul to China in the 70s + speaks fluent Mandarin. Anyway, under discussion one day about 30 years ago Ken made the comment; knowing that I am a voracious reader to check out the Chinese mindset by reading James Clavell. Since I already had + still have all of his works I did again. Quite true, as close as a westerner can get to the Chinese mindset. If nothing else, they are great reading.


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Oh + IMO, skip King Rat, the 1st of the Asian saga starring George Segal in the movie. It was a waste of film. Shogun was a good book as well. The rest of the series from "Tai-Pan" through "Whirlwind". was VERY good. James lived in the orient + gives a good perception of Asian thinking.


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