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Since I can't post in the PF, I'm putting this here. This guy has it about right (bold emphasis mine). What kind of nuts does Abbott listen to? The nightly comedic shows should send him Christmas cards for years to come. Damn!!!

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Texas Governor Deploys State Guard To Stave Off Obama Takeover

MAY 02, 2015 9:27 PM ET
Wade Goodwyn

Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott ordered the Texas National Guard to monitor a joint U.S. Special Forces training taking place in Texas, prompting outrage from some in his own party.
Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott ordered the Texas National Guard to monitor a joint U.S. Special Forces training taking place in Texas, prompting outrage from some in his own party.

Since General Sam Houston executed his famous retreat to glory to defeat the superior forces of General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, Texas has been ground zero for military training. We have so many military bases in the Lone Star State we could practically attack Russia.

So when rookie Texas Gov. Greg Abbott announced he was ordering the Texas National Guard to monitor a Navy SEAL/Green Beret joint training exercise, which was taking place in Texas and several other states, everybody here looked up from their iPhones. What?

It seems there is concern among some folks that this so-called training maneuver is just a cover story. What's really going on? President Obama is about to use Special Forces to put Texas under martial law.

Let's walk over by the fence where nobody can hear us, and I'll tell you the story.

You see, there are these Wal-Marts in West Texas that supposedly closed for six months for "renovation." That's what they want you to believe. The truth is these Wal-Marts are going to be military guerrilla-warfare staging areas and FEMA processing camps for political prisoners. The prisoners are going to be transported by train cars that have already been equipped with shackles.

Don't take my word for it. That comes directly from a Texas Ranger, who seems pretty plugged in, if you ask me. You and I both know President Obama has been waiting a long time for this, and now it's happening. It's a classic false flag operation. Don't pay any attention the mainstream media; all they're going to do is lie and attack everyone who's trying to tell you the truth.

Did I mention the ISIS terrorists? They've come across the border and are going to hit soft targets all across the Southwest. They've set up camp a few miles outside of El Paso.

That includes a Mexican army officer and Mexican federal police inspector. Not sure what they're doing there, but probably nothing good. That's why the Special Forces guys are here, get it? To wipe out ISIS and impose martial law. So now you know, whaddya say we get back to the party and grab another beer?

It's true that the paranoid world-view of right-wing militia types has remarkable stamina. But that's not news.

What is news is that there seem to be enough of them in Texas to influence the governor of the state to react — some might use the word pander — to them.

That started Monday when a public briefing by the Army in Bastrop County, which is just east of Austin, got raucous. The poor U.S. Army colonel probably just thought he was going to give a regular briefing, but instead 200 patriots shouted him down, told him he was a liar and grilled him about the imminent federal takeover of Texas and subsequent imposition of martial law.

"We just want to make sure our guys are trained. We want to hone our skills," Lt. Col. Mark Listoria tried to explain in vain.

One wonders what Listoria was thinking to himself as he walked to his car after two hours of his life he'll never get back. God bless Texas? Maybe not.

The next day Gov. Abbott decided he had to take action. He announced that he was going to ask the Texas State Guard to monitor Operation Jade Helm from start to finish.

"It is important that Texans know their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed upon," Abbott said.

The idea that the Yankee military can't be trusted down here has a long and rich history in Texas. But that was a while back. Abbott's proclamation that he was going to keep his eye on these Navy SEAL and Green Beret boys did rub some of our leaders the wrong way.

Former Texas Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst tried to put it in perspective for outsiders when he explained, "Unfortunately, some Texans have projected their legitimate concerns about the competence and trustworthiness of President Barack Obama on these noble warriors. This must stop."

Another former Republican politician was a bit more pointed.

"Your letter pandering to idiots ... has left me livid," former State Rep. Todd Smith wrote Gov. Abbott. "I am horrified that I have to choose between the possibility that my Governor actually believes this stuff and the possibility that my Governor doesn't have the backbone to stand up to those who do."

There's no argument that after the 2014 election, Texas politics took a further step to the right. The 84th session of the state legislature has given ample proof of that. But the events of this last week have been an eye-opener for Texans of all political stripes.

You will find the names of Texans etched into marble at war memorials from Goliad to Gettysburg, from Verdun to the Ardennes and Washington, D.C. The governor's proposition that these soldiers and sailors constitute a potential threat and need watching as they go about their duties, certainly stakes out some new political ground for the leader of the Texas GOP to stand on.


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What some people are failing to realize is that for every military exercise there are military forces playing on both sides. And, for Unconventional Warfare exercises it is the norm to have civilian personnel involved and playing on both sides. In other words, the military will have forces playing the bad guys but they also will have forces playing the good guys.
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Some people are suggesting that the exercise map equates to this:


And there is speculation that faint wooden shoe in the Jade Helm logo is a reference to the wooden shoes worn by Jews in the Hitler death camps:



But, noting that it is an Unconventional Warfare exercise with elements of the 82nd ABN Division, Special Opns forces, and civilians involved the wooden shoe reference could just as easily be interpreted as referring to something like the Dutch resistance forces in WW-II:
"Members of the Eindhoven Resistance with troops of the US 101st Airborne
Division in Eindhoven during Operation Market Garden, September 1944"





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Reminds me of all "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" end of worlders at turn of century. Confused


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Originally posted by Gatogordo:
Since I can't post in the PF, I'm putting this here.
Maybe somebody did that just so you wouldn't post stuff like this. popcorn




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Is there any meaning or historical significance to the operation name:

"Jade Helm" ?


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Originally posted by Gatogordo:
Since I can't post in the PF, I'm putting this here.
Maybe somebody did that just so you wouldn't post stuff like this. popcorn


No, I didn't bow down to the sainted memory of Steve Jobs. Apparently stating the FACT that Jobs was a liar and a thief in his early years was more than some could stand. OTOH, spending the time required to refute the giant piles of BS posted in the PF is a waste, so I'm actually happy about it.

But I notice you're posting in this thread so what is your problem? Are you one of the nuts who think Obama and the military are taking over? Why don't you run outside and look for the black helicopters?


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But I notice you're posting in this thread so what is your problem? Are you one of the nuts who think Obama and the military are taking over? Why don't you run outside and look for the black helicopters?
Apparently you didn't read what I wrote.




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Is there any meaning or historical significance to the operation name:

"Jade Helm" ?
Not likely. Exercise names like Solid Shield, Foal Eagle, Cobra Gold, Balance Torch, Bright Star, and Ulchi Focus Lens are meant to be ambiguous.




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Jade Helm

I think there are two books, one is parts of a navy ship and the other is stripper names. :-)
 
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I think Jon Stewart nailed it here. Texans do look like lunatics and dipshits thanks to Gov. Abbott, and the skanks and retards that we allow to speak for us.

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I'm as distrustful of the Federal government as anybody, especially under this Administration, but this might have been a bit of an overreaction, ... perhaps.
 
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Originally posted by lavaca:
I'm as distrustful of the Federal government as anybody, especially under this Administration, but this might have been a bit of an overreaction, ... perhaps.


Ya think? Big Grin


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I like having a tin foil hat wearing Governor. It makes my merely conservative positions seem downright mainstream.


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Abbot was just pouring oil on the water before it became a big deal----here in Texas

Who cares what the media in New Jersey thinks anyway.


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this might have been a bit of an overreaction, ... perhaps.

Well, there is a stinging rebuke to the Texas Governor from one of his own! Rather like "well McCarthy had the right idea, he just went a little overboard".

This would not have been an issue if it wasn't for the liberal mainstream media.

To anyone with half a brain, the Texas Governor is a wacko. End of story.
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McCain is another Republican that is dying laughing at Abbott. This fiasco will follow Abbott the rest of his political career, which I now hope is very short.

http://trailblazersblog.dallas...steria-bizarre.html/

I ended-up, by accident, having one of those tin hat, doomsday preppers in my house recently. He wasn't sure 100 guns was enough, but he was going to do his part when martial law was declared. I asked him what his part was. He seemed stumped by the question. I guess he has to wait until his orders get beamed down from the mother ship. I eased him towards the front door and upgraded my security system. These guys are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.
 
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McCain is another Republican that is dying laughing at Abbott. This fiasco will follow Abbott the rest of his political career, which I now hope is very short.

http://trailblazersblog.dallas...steria-bizarre.html/

I ended-up, by accident, having one of those tin hat, doomsday preppers in my house recently. He wasn't sure 100 guns was enough, but he was going to do his part when martial law was declared. I asked him what his part was. He seemed stumped by the question. I guess he has to wait until his orders get beamed down from the mother ship. I eased him towards the front door and upgraded my security system. These guys are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.




Who is mcCain?
 
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Let's see. Naval Academy graduate. Served his country in Vietnam. Shot down over north Vietnam and spent six years in a prisoner of war camp, after refusing an out-of-sequence early release offer. Two term Congressman, five term Senator. Yeah, I understand why you wouldn't know anything about him.

If you or I were to measure our lives against his, I suspect we would come up a little short.

Since I don't know you, maybe I'm wrong. Tell me how your contribution to our country compares with what's his name.
 
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That's in the past! He was a good man "in the past".
He is the poster boy for a "Rhino".
 
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Kensco, the teabaggers are all about "supporting our military" but will turn on them in a heartbeat if they ever cross the party line, in this case, calling the behavior of a member of the Republican Party "bizzare"! McCain's problem (in their eyes) is that he has a brain and uses it! That is a no-no on both counts.
The best we can hope for from these guys is this stinging rebuke:
"this might have been a bit of an overreaction, ... perhaps."
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Kensco, the teabaggers are all about "supporting our military" but will turn on them in a heartbeat if they ever cross the party line, in this case, calling the behavior of a member of the Republican Party "bizzare"! McCain's problem (in their eyes) is that he has a brain and uses it! That is a no-no on both counts.
The best we can hope for from these guys is this stinging rebuke:
"this might have been a bit of an overreaction, ... perhaps."
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mcCain may have a brain, but he plays with it too much.
 
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Here is the bullshit reply I got from the governor's office after I emailed them basically asking why he was making Texas into a laughinstock.

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May 13, 2015

Mr. xxxxxx

Dear Mr. xxxxxx:

Thank you for contacting the Office of the Governor regarding the U.S. Army Special
Operations Command’s training exercise, Operation Jade Helm 15. We understand you are
concerned that Governor Abbott has directed the Texas State Guard (TXSG) to monitor this
operation.

The governor takes the safety and security of his fellow Texans very seriously, and he believes
that our communities should be well-informed of any military activities in their area. That’s why
he tasked TXSG with communicating between the operation’s commanders and our office. In
doing so, we will be better able to share information on the exercise’s progress with individuals,
law enforcement and public safety personnel.

Texas has a long history of supporting our troops, and Governor Abbott has the utmost respect
for the brave men and women of our military who put their lives on the line to fight for and
defend our freedom.

Please let us know if we can assist you in the future.

Sincerely,
Dede Keith
Deputy Director
Constituent Communication Division
Office of the Governor


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?? These bikers in the Texas restaurant , which side are they on ??
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Neither. Abbott needs to have the Texas National Guard monitoring their activity.
 
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No, You two just don't understand how the current government works. What the government should do is buy them a restaurant, give them sensitivity training, and then put them all back into that restaurant. Shortly, the biker problem would be solved except for the few survivors.


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NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR.

I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process.
 
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Seriously, it will be interesting to read the after action report. Apparently the restaurant owner wanted them there, so the police who were on sight, could do nothing until the shooting started. The real question is how many the cops shot? Also, there were apparently some innocent lunch patrons there. I haven't heard of any injuries to them at this point, but I think that if I had been there, I would have re-thought my luncheon choices instantly or sooner.

Sort of like a modern OK corral. coffee


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NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR.

I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process.
 
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I'm afraid as soon as they sort out who shot who, the national media (maybe just FOX) will start hammering on how law enforcement over-reacted, and killed innocent bikers (retired businessmen no doubt) who were simply engaged in some male bonding with some of their buds over a chicken-fried steak and a glass of tea after Sunday morning church services.
 
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... and the spin attempts begin.

"They said most of those arrested are law-abiding people, including several veteran and Christian groups, who planned to gather peacefully to socialize and discuss legislative issues close to bikers, such as highway safety..."

http://www.dallasnews.com/news...ce-wasnt-planned.ece
 
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...and there you go,

"One online scenario that’s floating around the Waco shootings is this: Law enforcement orchestrated the Sunday killings, sending undercover cops disguised as bikers into the bar to start a fight. Once the fight spilled outside, SWAT teams opened fire, deliberately slaughtering members of the brave brotherhood who dare to stand apart."

This is like catnip for believers in all things conspiracy-based.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news...-and-maybe-worse.ece
 
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