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Car buffs thinking of changing cars, read this.
Just for your information.
I always wondered why we never saw a cost analysis on what it actually costs to operate an electric car. Now we know why.
At a neighborhood BBQ I was talking to a neighbor, a BC Hydro executive. I asked him how that renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got serious. If you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, he pointed out, you had to
face certain realities. For example, a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service.
The average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than 3 houses with a single Tesla, each. For even half the homes
to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded.
This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles .. Our residential infrastructure cannot bear the load. So as our genius elected officials promote this nonsense, not only are we being urged to buy the damn things
and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with expensive, new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have to renovate our entire delivery system! This latter "investment" will not be revealed until we're
so far down this dead-end road that it will be presented with an oops and a shrug.
If you want to argue with a green person over cars that are eco-friendly, just read the following:
Note: If you ARE a green person, read it anyway. Enlightening.
Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors...and he writes...For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.
Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9-gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles.
It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.
According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity.
I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery.
Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile.
The gasoline powered car costs about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000........So the American Government wants loyal Americans not to do the math, but simply pay 3 times as much for a car, that costs more than
7 times as much to run, and takes 3 times longer to drive across the country.....

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Originally posted by JTEX:

But where the hell does one pay $1.16 per kWh for electricity??????

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Originally posted by Fjold:
According to UK Power in their comparison of electricity to natural gas prices:

Electricity is typically more than three times as expensive as natural gas – 14.37pence per kWh rather than 3.80p. It also emits nearly three times as much carbon dioxide: 0.447kg per kWh rather than 0.184kg.

I rented a Mercedes E220 D (diesel) to drive 2030 miles in the UK last month and I calculated that it averaged just over 48 miles to the (US) gallon. Get me an electric car that has 500+ miles of range and can recharge in 5 minutes and I will buy one.

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Originally posted by JTEX:
The economics are bad, the batteries are gonna create mucho toxic waste, the grid is gonna be a huge problem.

Electricity is still gonna be generated by fossil fuels.

But where the hell does one pay $1.16 per kWh for electricity??????

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Get me an electric car that has 500+ miles of range and can recharge in 5 minutes and I will buy one.

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Us aggregate energy consumptionhttps://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=30652Flat line between 2000-2017

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Originally posted by larrys:

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Us aggregate energy consumptionhttps://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=30652Flat line between 2000-2017

The one factor that they can not put into this comparison is the individual public generation of electricity, either through solar or wind. So, power consumption may well be up, they just can't track it. For example, I have a house that I installed a total solar generation system for since it is very rural and the public supply is expensive. There is no way for them to track my usage or generation. I will be adding wind to it next year since the sun doesn't shine all the time.

A lot of the other rural farms around me are going to the same thing.

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Originally posted by mete:
You'd be wondering why cars aren't made for LNG as there is a serious gut of LNG in the world !

The snowflakes out there make these rules with no consideration of the real world .Where are all the plugin rechargers ? Will we have long lines waiting for recharging ?
Pass laws AFTER technology is available not before !
Nope , it will work because snowflakes want it to ! They never heard of technology , never heard of the term 'grid' etc .