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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So it sounds like millions more are going to be let in the rest of this year. Where are they going? I don't think any go to Canada.

I do know they are not the ones living in tents and shitting on the streets in urban America. Millions have come in already. All are supposedly destitute and repressed people that have nothing but the clothes on their backs yet when images of them are shown on TV they all look very well fed and dressed just as well. I have, to date, not seen a single one that looked like they were suffering true hardship.

Who is paying their bill? Where are they going?

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So it sounds like millions more are going to be let in the rest of this year. Where are they going? I don't think any go to Canada.

I do know they are not the ones living in tents and shitting on the streets in urban America. Millions have come in already. All are supposedly destitute and repressed people that have nothing but the clothes on their backs yet when images of them are shown on TV they all look very well fed and dressed just as well. I have, to date, not seen a single one that looked like they were suffering true hardship.

Who is paying their bill? Where are they going?

They probably all working construction, landscaping, ag, manual labor in Florida is my guess. And the market is hot for workers.

Mike

~Ann

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So it sounds like millions more are going to be let in the rest of this year. Where are they going? I don't think any go to Canada.

I do know they are not the ones living in tents and shitting on the streets in urban America. Millions have come in already. All are supposedly destitute and repressed people that have nothing but the clothes on their backs yet when images of them are shown on TV they all look very well fed and dressed just as well. I have, to date, not seen a single one that looked like they were suffering true hardship.

Who is paying their bill? Where are they going?

They probably all working construction, landscaping, ag, manual labor in Florida is my guess. And the market is hot for workers.

Mike

So there are employers who are sounding for workers and taking them, correct? If so, it sounds like this has been well thought out and planned.

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
I encountered a lot of them in Oregon. Most were polite, good-natured and family oriented. And talk about workaholics. The guys in construction that I dealt with would be happy to work 10-hour days seven days a week.

~Ann

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
I encountered a lot of them in Oregon. Most were polite, good-natured and family oriented. And talk about workaholics. The guys in construction that I dealt with would be happy to work 10-hour days seven days a week.

Bill, lets not forget there are a lot of gang, drug and other criminal elements within these illegals. Plenty of Americans die as a result. Yeah but I am not curious about that. I am not complaining that they are not polite and hard working. First and foremost they are illegal. Most people here are polite and hard working. They aren't illegals either.

I know the illegals get quite a hand up as soon as they cross. They get medical treatment, food, housing, phones, free travel to where ever they want to go. I wonder where these illegals go, such as live, stay, hang their hat? They are not working on the ranches in my area. Crop harvests are all mechanized.

I see lots of complaints not only locally in the nearby city to me but everywhere of Americans claiming there is no where to live. No rents available, low inventory on available housing. This, yet the street people are not illegals.

I doubt many of the people coming across the border have notable skills which means low paid labor. How does a business owner do their books with paying cash wages and not running a payroll? I just don't see numbers adding up.

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Originally posted by TomP:
Housekeeping services in the District of Columbia can not compete using native-born labor.

This should give us a clue...

~Ann

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

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Originally posted by TomP:
Housekeeping services in the District of Columbia can not compete using native-born labor.

This should give us a clue...

And this is also why I am curious because these jobs do not pay very much and yet these illegals do not live in tents pooping in the streets. And in seeing the TV coverage the vast majority of the illegals are single males. What's their secret?

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As for housing; one will rent a house or mobile home and have 8-10 others move in.

~Ann

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

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As for housing; one will rent a house or mobile home and have 8-10 others move in.

I don't see how they do this? One, according to lots of complaints by the public, there are no rentals available. Two, who would rent to someone that is illegal doing day jobs? Does not sound reliable.

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Originally posted by K Evans:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

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As for housing; one will rent a house or mobile home and have 8-10 others move in.

I don't see how they do this? One, according to lots of complaints by the public, there are no rentals available. Two, who would rent to someone that is illegal doing day jobs? Does not sound reliable.

How they do it??? They pay cash to landlords that care only about the cash coming in. Search slumlords in Dallas, try Topletz or Patel for starters, there are hundreds of similar landlords. There are lots of “rentals” available if you don’t mind leaky roofs, broken windows, no heat or A/C, etc.. Also, illegals tend to not complain.

~Ann

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Originally posted by NormanConquest:
As of today, Governor Abbott has sent off the 4th bus of illegals to D.C. Biden doesn't like it + Abbott could care less what he likes.

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$25 an hour for manual labor is crazy. It’s also why I have very cautious about investing in land or hunting property on requiring labor to do work on the land.

Mike

~Ann

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Originally posted by NormanConquest:
The days of the cheap wetback labor are gone I fear. They are still hanging around the Home Depots, etc. as day labor but as everything else has gone up, they want more too but I agree that $25.00 is completely out of line. And yes they are notorious for one renting a trailer then another 12 or 15 moving in. Happens all the time + damned near ALL the money gets sent back to Mexico. Admirable taking care of family; to a point. But those of us who live here legally are being forced to shoulder the additional tax burden of those who come, work for cash, + take advantage of all of our health + social services, again at our expene.

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What social service are Mexican illegal immigrants getting ?

Food stamps ?
Cash welfare ?

Mike

~Ann

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Originally posted by jdollar:
I know for a fact they get free health care in CA. They just show up at an ER and whatever needs attention gets fixed for free. I’ve seen it way too many times…..

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Originally posted by jdollar:
I know for a fact they get free health care in CA. They just show up at an ER and whatever needs attention gets fixed for free. I’ve seen it way too many times…..

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

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What social service are Mexican illegal immigrants getting ?

Food stamps ?
Cash welfare ?

Mike

I just saw something on the news that COVID money is now being used to give illegals college scholarships.

I'm unsure why some of y'all think illegals are all about making their own way. Maybe they used to but not for a long time now. Not since political parties have decided they could be useful. That's why the problem is never stopped.

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Originally posted by JonP:
Neither party wants to fix immigration. Its too valuable an issue when it comes to election time. A pox on both their houses. Lived in Switzerland for many years. Their guest worker program is a model of efficiency. Guest workers apply and get approval to work in the country. They have equal protection, rights and benefits under the law. Done deal. They do not bring their families. Such a program along with the legal immigration that we do allow would solve the issue. The underlying issue is the low white birth rate. Politicians scaring us about the browning of the US has nothing to do with Mexicans. White America is not replacing itself. It would rather make money and vacation. Get tired of half truths and no truths coming out of the mouths of our politicians. Bull shitters all of them.

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I know for a fact they get free health care in CA. They just show up at an ER and whatever needs attention gets fixed for free. I’ve seen it way too many times…..

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
I know for a fact they get free health care in CA. They just show up at an ER and whatever needs attention gets fixed for free. I’ve seen it way too many times…..

Works the same way for Anglos...

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Originally posted by Kensco:

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I know for a fact they get free health care in CA. They just show up at an ER and whatever needs attention gets fixed for free. I’ve seen it way too many times…..

Damn good eye sight seeing things in California all the way from Georgia.

Sounds like a lot of rumors, conspiracy theories and urban legends.

Most of the homeless Americans wouldn't take a job if you handed it to them. Dallas has plenty of "homeless" standing on street corners begging with cardboard signs while stores and businesses are hiring left and right. The hardcore homeless want enough for their next drug fix. No one in their right mind would hire them.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Jerry makes an excellent point there. Look at the massive cost of health care. It's insane.

I think a lot of you get wrapped up in the "well they are nice people, just want to work". I don't think anyone has a problem with that except they are here illegally and are NOT contributing to the economy in the same way as a taxed American. I do think if there is a need, there is a job, then bring them in legally and get them on the tax rolls. They stay as long as they have jobs, no welfare of any sort. Apply to be a citizen. Follow the law of the land, etc.

On to our own portion of lazy ass citizenry. Just as disturbing to me, always has been but they are being encouraged to be this way by the same people who won't deal with the illegal issue and proper legislation. This doesn't benefit anyone of any flavor/skin color.

We have a lot of problems and I only seeing it get worse.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Jerry makes an excellent point there. Look at the massive cost of health care. It's insane.

I think a lot of you get wrapped up in the "well they are nice people, just want to work". I don't think anyone has a problem with that except they are here illegally and are NOT contributing to the economy in the same way as a taxed American. I do think if there is a need, there is a job, then bring them in legally and get them on the tax rolls. They stay as long as they have jobs, no welfare of any sort. Apply to be a citizen. Follow the law of the land, etc.

On to our own portion of lazy ass citizenry. Just as disturbing to me, always has been but they are being encouraged to be this way by the same people who won't deal with the illegal issue and proper legislation. This doesn't benefit anyone of any flavor/skin color.

We have a lot of problems and I only seeing it get worse.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Many of the states have created mechanisms for illegal aliens to buy cars and get auto insurance.

If you think the vast majority of illegals in CA buy cars and then auto insurance, I seriously want some of what you’re smoking….

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Then every traffic stop should result in a criminal violation. How do illegal alien renew their auto without insurance.

If they don’t drive it is irrelevant. Just get to their job and stay off the roads.

In Florida cops can run any plate and see it’s insurance status. Auto registration and insurance are tied.

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Originally posted by K Evans:

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Then every traffic stop should result in a criminal violation. How do illegal alien renew their auto without insurance.

If they don’t drive it is irrelevant. Just get to their job and stay off the roads.

In Florida cops can run any plate and see it’s insurance status. Auto registration and insurance are tied.

Proof of financial responsibility is required in Texas as well, usually proven by liability insurance. Problem is, they pay a $39.00 down payment for liability insurance and never make another payment. Law enforcement can check insurance status here as well, and they do when they have time and if the system shows no or expired insurance, they have the vehicle towed. But they can’t check every car on the road. I had 4 collisions during my career with the City of Dallas, in every one of them I was struck from the rear by a Hispanic driver who fled…that is their culture. All were located, none had insurance (and nothing happened to them).
As for registration renewal or state safety inspection, proof of insurance is required but, again, $39.00 to one of the dozens of “insurance” companies that cater to this segment of the population and they are good to go. Lots of used car dealers in Dallas advertise and sell to these people with no gov ID (or a fake one).