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I'll drink to the Natufians.

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Oldest-known beer is a 13,000-year-old vintage
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Michael Irving


September 13th, 2018

Beer was one of the very first drinks humans ever produced – and it may be much older than we previously thought. The brew is generally thought to be about 7,000 years old, but now archaeologists have found clues that could date beer-making to almost twice that age, meaning it predates agriculture and represents the oldest record of man-made alcohol.


The new evidence was uncovered in Raqefet Cave in Israel, which was once a grave site for the Natufian people, hunter-gatherers that populated the Levant region in the Eastern Mediterranean between about 15,000 and 10,000 years ago. On stone mortars found in the cave, Stanford researchers discovered traces of starch and plant particles called phytolith, indicating grains were crushed and processed in a way that suggests beer-making. The find actually surprised the team.

"We did not set out to find alcohol in the stone mortars, but just wanted to investigate what plant foods people may have consumed because very little data was available in the archaeological record," says Li Liu, lead researcher on the study.

According to the team, the beer traces seem to be between 11,700 and 13,700 years old, making them the oldest known evidence of man-made alcohol in the world.

Based on the traces found on the artefacts, as well as an understanding of ancient beer brewing in other areas, the researchers outlined the process that they believe the Natufian people used. First, wheat or barley would be malted by leaving grains in water until they began to sprout, then they would be dried and stored. Later, that malt would be mashed, heated and finally left to ferment with wild yeast.

The end result wouldn't have looked quite like today's beer. According to the team, it would have been thicker, almost like porridge or a thin gruel.

Professor Li Liu, inspecting ancient grain traces
To back up the claims, the Stanford team recreated the ancient recipe, and found that the traces left on their equipment closely matched those found on the artifacts. This isn't the first time the team has brewed beer of this vintage – last year some of the same researchers crafted concoctions based on a 5,000-year-old Chinese recipe, with mixed results.

The find is more significant than just tracing the history of the tradition of a relaxing beer after a hard day's work. The researchers say the brew was likely downed as part of ritual feasts – maybe those celebrating the dead given it was found in a graveyard.

"This discovery indicates that making alcohol was not necessarily a result of agricultural surplus production, but it was developed for ritual purposes and spiritual needs, at least to some extent, prior to agriculture," says Liu.

In fact, not only does the beer apparently predate agriculture, it may have been a motivation for early civilizations to settle down in the first place. The oldest known bread, possibly over 14,000 years old, recently turned up in a Natufian site in Jordan, and together the two may have inspired the population to begin cultivating cereals.

The research was published in the Journal of Archaeological Science: Reports.

Source: Stanford University


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In Germany it is considered a food + regulated as such.


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Yes , food, and I bet they never made " lite" beer ! beer
 
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Hell no!. In 1975 we all attended a "walk fest" in New Braunfels. These krauts (I can say that because I am one)love to take hikes overland + being German get a little medal to adhere to their staff.Anyway the night before the walk,there was a large hall rented for the drinking festivities. Now over here it's polite when sitting at a table to buy everyone a round. No,no,they insisted on buying everyone a pitcher.They seemed to like Lone Star best (remember from a previous post that the recipe has changed from the mid 70's). So when I go up to the counter when my time to buy comes around,the barkeep says,sorry we'er all out of lone star.I told him,you've gotta be shitting me,I have a whole table full of thirsty krauts + you've got no beer!!!He says,Look take it easy,I have lots of Coors+ for no display of emotions please,it's on the house.I bring my offering to the table + the 1st hearty burger takes a sip,looks at me + says "es vasser".


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This is all bulshit!

If anyone has ever been to Africa, and seen the elephant gorging themselves on rotten Marula tree fruits, getting high, and falling over, would know that elephants shown humans how to make beer!

And it was a lot longer than 7,000 years ago!

And if you think you should avoid getting into an argument with a drunk human, just imagine what happens when an elephant gets drunk! clap


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Saeed I've noticed something similar with hummingbirds. They seem to prefer my feeder water only after it ferments and turns cloudy. More so when it becomes positively rank with fermentation. They sit there and drink until they begin teetering on the perch.

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This is all bulshit!

If anyone has ever been to Africa, and seen the elephant gorging themselves on rotten Marula tree fruits, getting high, and falling over, would know that elephants shown humans how to make beer!

And it was a lot longer than 7,000 years ago!

And if you think you should avoid getting into an argument with a drunk human, just imagine what happens when an elephant gets drunk! clap
 
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