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DERMESTIDS & MOUNT CARE
09 August 2009, 19:56
jorgeDERMESTIDS & MOUNT CARE
Folks, I did a search on here and from what I can discern, I do not have dermestids. I saw no living critters anywhere or the infamous tell-tale "rice Krispies" around the mounts. What other evidence (if any) is there? I did read where a "fogger" will take care of any of them and I also periodically use two products from a company called Knoblochs called Protex Mount Care and trophy Sheen. Lastly, is there are truth to the fact mounts done in Africa are less prone to them because of the more toxic chemicals used over there? Thanks, jorge
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10 August 2009, 01:20
elk88101This is the company that takes care of all the Cabelas store trophies and almost all the major collections thru out the us. They travel to your location. They did 30 animals for me 2 days about $3,000 in NM
Here's a company who specializes in fixing your problem. Contact them at: Miller Trophy Room Preservation and Restoration
7995 W. Franklin Street, P.O. Box 141, Mount Pleasant, NC, 28124, phone # 704-436-2001 Good Luck! Larry
10 August 2009, 01:48
Sevensquote:
Originally posted by elk88101:
This is the company that takes care of all the Cabelas store trophies and almost all the major collections thru out the us. They travel to your location. They did 30 animals for me 2 days about $3,000 in NM
Here's a company who specializes in fixing your problem. Contact them at: Miller Trophy Room Preservation and Restoration
7995 W. Franklin Street, P.O. Box 141, Mount Pleasant, NC, 28124, phone # 704-436-2001 Good Luck! Larry
+1 on MTR. I use them as well.
10 August 2009, 02:25
jorgeThanks guys, I guess I just want to know if I have them or not before I call them. jorge
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10 August 2009, 05:28
jorgeWell, I'm probably being paranoid, but some of the mounts have some sort of "dandruff" like stuff. I've looked at them under a magnifying glass and they do not look like any kind of varmint and I don't have any turds or shells, but that light tan colored dandruff bothers me. jorge
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10 August 2009, 05:47
L. David KeithLook closely at the base of each horn. They will have eaten tiny holes in the horns and this activity leaves the sawdust. Egg casings look like tiny rice krispies, as mentioned. You never know what was used to preserve or tan your skins if mounted in Africa. Hopefully, not Arsenic. The products mentioned (Protex) is a repellent that should be used at least once per year.
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10 August 2009, 06:24
sculptorArsenic is in common use in Africa for taxidermy from what I have seen. I just cleaned and repaired several mounts recently mounted in South Africa and they had arsenic powder everywhere and the capes were like concrete plates; they were very hard to soak up and make damage repairs on. How anyone considers it a deal for their taxidermy work to be left in some (not all!I have seen some great mounts that were done in AF but generally speaking no) of those AF shops does not know or does not care the about quality. Thats my experience on it anyway. Your local taxidermist can buy and use the Miller bug products and clean and repair your mounts and also come over in person for a bid quote and inspection.
10 August 2009, 06:33
jorgeLDK, no holes in the horns. So is does that Protez stuff kill the bugs? jorge
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10 August 2009, 08:19
L. David Keithjorge, not really. It repels them. Years ago we had a product formulated in Germany called Edo-lan U. The EPA decided it was harmful if ever a ruby throated goat mole broke into your house and ate your mounts (just kidding) but they banned it. Protex is from the carpet industry and is used to repel moth larvae. Follow directions and mix with water (unless you have a diluted solution) and mist spray your mounts outside. Doesn't take much, so don't over do it. If you have moth or beetle infestions (ever) step one is use Raid Fumigators. They are far better than the typical "foggers."
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http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#926103994110 days in the Stormberg Mountains
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10 August 2009, 17:03
elk88101jorge
I guess you can try all that stuff but you still wont be sure that you really did anything.
Miller gaurentees it for 10 years.
Also they do everything take it down repair it if it needs repairing. They replace it and send you a CD of all your mounts with all comments about what they did and what they found. Also a record for your insurance company.
Also what mounts are they? hard horn or antlered animals are less apt to get problems.
Larry
10 August 2009, 22:00
jorgeThanks for all the replies gents. Yes they are all hard horned. Specifically, a wildebeest and an impala mount. I think I'm ok but what I'm going to do is take one of the mounts in question to a local taxidermist and let him look at it. jorge
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11 August 2009, 08:52
george roofMillers utilizes licensed products to exterminate the infestations. The proper name for dermistid scat is "frass" and it's the first sure sign. If you are truly concerned with your trophy room, I recommend buying Raid Fogger's in WalMart and using them about every 3 months. Demistids are called "carpet mites" and are possible even in the cleanest home. Each year I'd also recommend another product available at WalMart. It's in the garden section and goes by the name "Eliminator". It is permethrin spray and it WILL EXTERMINATE any dermistids on your mounts. It lasts for about 6 months to a year. It is the strongest insecticide you can buy without a license. (It also works great on hunting clothes though you should never allow it to contact your skin wet. Spray your clothes and let them dry. Eliminator will withstand 3 to 4 wash cycles and still kill mosquitos, chiggers, and spiders on contact. Great stuff to have in your shops to spray the floor during deer season. Kills TICKS ON CONTACT.)
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11 August 2009, 17:56
jorgeThanks, I'm going to take one of the mounts to a Taxidermist and go from there and report back. jorge
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11 August 2009, 19:52
jorgeI think my Bushpig has them. Found some clusters of what my wife called "nits" on some of the hair. Too symmetrical the way they were cloistered to be random dust. Crap. I'll go buy some of that eliminator stuff. jorge
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