At a local gun store today, saw a used Rem M700BDL LH 30-06 and new Ruger M77's LH in .270 and 30-06. Price wise, they are about the same. The 700 has a two positioin saftey. Either gun will be a project gun in the future. Re-stocked, tuned, re-barrled, etc. All I have to do is decide which one. Any suggestions? TTS
Posts: 84 | Location: Wisconsin | Registered: 18 December 2001
I agree with George. Ask any gunsmith which one he'd rather re-do for you, you're gonna hear Remington. It just has more potential, especially if you're buying it with the intention of rebarrelling, etc.
If this is going to be a big game hunting piece , and maybe used in rough or the back country , I'd take the Ruger hands down .
I'm also willing to bet after a trigger job , or re barrelling or other work , accuracy in the field will be identical between the two , for all practical purposes .
Posts: 1660 | Location: Gary , SD | Registered: 05 March 2001
A friend of mine likes Rimington actions, while I like Ruger actions. I don't know why he likes REM, but my reasons for liking Ruger actions are as follows:
Accurazy is not a factor, since any rifle can be accurate enough for hunting moose, bear, caribou, and other medium to large game. Should I have the need to take this CRF bolt appart to clean it for hunting in cold weather, the only tool I need is a small nail or wire. The same can also be accomplished with bare hands.
Posts: 2448 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 25 May 2002
The Remington action is the best action of the two to rework. I don't care for the Ruger action because it is machined to use only Ruger scope mounts. I like my actions drilled and tapped for any style scope mounts I care to use. In my view any action machined to use only the scope mounts of that rifle maker is a very poor choice for any shooter to buy. In some cases you are forced to buy a certain brand of scope to fit that action.
I shoot Ruger. I've owned them, shot them...they're reliable and they work for me. As for the "ask any gunsmith..." and "Ruger is a piece of ....", I do not agree. My custom gunsmith could shoot whatever he wants--he shoots and likes to work on Rugers. Most people in the know would readily declare that Rugers are well-built, solid working guns. To each his own, with due respect.
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My personal experience with Rugers has been excellent, in both factory and modified form. Remingtons of all kinds have given me nothing but grief. I guess it's the luck of the draw.
I get the feeling you did not appreciate my post. I just tell it as I see it. Actually I think both of these actions are pieces of !@*#. The idea was a project so I suggested the easiest to modify with the most available aftermarket goodies.
By the way, who is you gunsmith? None of the gunsmiths I talk to will touch a Ruger! They will work on Savages and Remingtons though. They all to a man have told me that when they were poor and starving they would work on/with Rugers but now that they are established they won't touch'em with a 10 foot pole. Everyone of these guys states the same issues with bedding system utilized. They all feel that it cannot be made to shoot reliably tight groups and resist recoil. I would just like to know as I have one Ruger (won't buy another either) and I cannot find anyone that will work on it.
Todd: Be glad to help out. I would go through Ole's for custom work (Salem, OR). Beautiful work (You may have seen my post on the Ruger RSM a few days ago). He works with a custom smith for more advanced stuff (custom brakes, etc). His son does impeccable work on recoil pads. Doing a job for me now. Don't ask Ole about his opinion on Rugers if you don't want to be set straight--you won't win! He knows his stuff and has been doing it (working on Rugers and all brands for a long time. We all want to think that our 'smiths are one of the best. All I can say is that his shop is wall-to- wall with mounts--all shot by him and his wife. They know both sides of shooting!
------------------ God, Guns and Gibsons...doesn't get much better than that!
