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Nosler partition compared to win. partition gold.
15 December 2001, 15:26
<leo>Nosler partition compared to win. partition gold.
Every cross section picture I have seen of a nosler partition shows it to have a thin jacket covering the front section. It has always been known to basicly mushroom on impact. But looking at winchester's ammo guide, the cross-section of the partition gold shows a thicker jacket covering the front section and a thicker partition than the NP and of course a steel insert that protects the rear section from being deformed. The partition gold won't mushroom as easily as the NP will it? I heard it said here that the NP will properly expand at velocities down to 1800 or 1900 fps. but I always assumed they would properly expand at much lower velocities than that due to that soft front end. So, what's the truth? Thanks, leo.
16 December 2001, 01:41
p dog shooterFrom what I have seen the win. is a tougher bullet then the Nosler. Well it make a diff. to the game your shooting I do not think so.
16 December 2001, 17:29
RMillersure the coating looks cool but it seems like they just reinvented the wheel is all.
I know the reason I like the regular partition is because it upsets fast and still zips through with good penetration.
16 December 2001, 17:46
AtkinsonNosler moved the partition forward and beefed up the jacket on the partition gold and it is a much tougher bullet and retains its core better an you get pretty mushrooms everytime...
BTW the 416's are the old Nosler with only a thicker jacket as they did not move its partition forward...It really works well on Bufalo, Lion and big Bear.
I like them both in fact I never met a Nosler I didn't like
Will Rogers
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17 December 2001, 03:04
<phurley>I have shot the Nosler Partition for 30 years and killed deer numbering in the hundreds with it, never a failure or complaint. I used the Nosler Partition Gold on an Alaskan Yukon Moose from a .340 Wby. and got a one shot dead in his tracks kill on a huge Moose. I was very pleased with the results. If you use either Nosler and place the bullet where it is supposed to be you will have no worry. Do your part and the Nosler will do it's. Good shooting.
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17 December 2001, 10:28
RSYquote:
Originally posted by RMiller:
sure the coating looks cool but it seems like they just reinvented the wheel is all.
NosChester currently offers uncoated Partition Gold's, as well. 
RSY
19 December 2001, 04:34
<leo>Well if the partition has been moved forward in the partition-gold then that means the rear shank should have a higher sectional density to penetrate even better than the original and with a prettier mushroom too.
19 December 2001, 05:01
Zero DriftI shoot both the standard Partition and the non-coated Partition Golds. When I am pushing higher velocities from my Dakota's, the Golds offer a little tougher bullet. Both bullets offer exceptional terminal ballistics and I have yet to find a more consistently accurate hunting bullet across the caliber board.
20 November 2003, 11:43
NETimquote:
I like them both in fact I never met a Nosler I didn't like
Will Rogers
Did Will REALLY say that? I agree with whoever said it.
Tim
20 November 2003, 11:53
SlingsterThe Nosler Partition (Protected Point if available) is where I always start if I'm loading a caliber in which it's made. On bigger calibers that don't have NPs available, I start with Woodleigh SP Protected Points. Never failed me yet in terms of accuracy, velocity, and terminal ballistics.
20 November 2003, 12:08
FourTailsNETim, "I never met a man I didn't like," Will Rogers. I think Ray was putting a little play on words. And, well done!
20 November 2003, 12:10
<Lars G>Leo,
Here's a pic to look at. On left is a 180 gr .30 cal partition gold. Middle is a 250 gr .338 partition and on the right is a 300 gr .375 partition. Unfortunately I did not have any "standard" .30 cal 180 gr paritions for a true apple-apple comparison, but I think you will get the idea.
BTW, I shot a big blacktail buck here in Alaska on opening day with the 180 gr gold parition. I did recover it too after about 30" of penetration. He was bedded down behind some small trees and I was real close, about 20 yds. Rather than spook him I shot below the neck and drove it stem-to-stern. I don't have the recovered bullet scanned, unfortunately.
I'd say the the location of the partition has been moved foreward to some degree. I'd agree wholeheartedly with Ray - I too have never meet a parition I didn't like! (Well, I have to admit I'm not into the coated ones . . . )
20 November 2003, 13:20
GatehouseI wonder why they bothered with the steel cup, like in the Failsafe.
I've recovered regular partitions after hitting rocks and the rear core never popped out.
Has anyone ever actually seen the rear core of a Partition seperate from the jacket?
20 November 2003, 19:27
jrslateGatehouse,
I did recover a 175 gr. 7mm partition bullet from a zebra once that had flattened and had part of the rear core squished out...all that after over 3 feet of penetration. Thet bullet certaily did it's job, but certainly "took one for the team" in the process.
I love Nosler bullets and will continue to use them.
22 November 2003, 08:52
RMKAccording to nosler themselves. The original partition is designed around 60% weight retention. The gold line is based on 90% or greater retention. Personally I like the grenade effect of the old nosler.
24 November 2003, 04:10
AtkinsonThe old Noslers that blew the front end off were the best penitrators..The mushroom works against penitration regardless of how long the shank is, the shank is a "push plus" but without that mushroom you basically have a solid...the "granade" effect of the front end always had a positive effect on deer and antelope and resulted in a lot of one shot instant kills with a caliber size exit hole that blead well...
For bigger animals I like the partition gold except in the 416 with 400 gr. bullets, that is the old style that has been beefed up and it just barely expands, but enough to really kill Buffalo and still penitrate almost as well as a solid, I love that bullet..It is the perfect Buffalo bullet.
25 November 2003, 10:16
Rich ElliottRay,
OOOps, I find myself agreeing with you again. Must be getting close to time for the Dallas Convention. We'll be in the same buliding again so we have to practice getting along.
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Rich Elliott