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An acquaintance of mine has a 200 acre farm that he runs cattle on and wild pigs have been rooting up his fields at night. I went out there tonight and around 8:30 pm I saw a bunch of them pass in front of me around 100 yards away. Even though it was dark, the grass in the field was stubble and very light in color, I could see my crosshairs so I put them on a big dark one and fired. It dropped, squealed once or twice and that was it. It was a boar that weighed about 200 pounds. I was surprised at how quiet they were, I never did hear them make any noise. The bullet, Sierra 150 BTS at about 2600 fps, entered just behind and above the left shoulder and exited the same place the other side. He bled out very quickly. I was using a Springfield Armory M1A with a Shepherd scope. Now I have a question, are these pigs ok to eat, or should I leave the carcass for the coyotes?
 
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I've eaten a lot of them, but usually later in the year when I can cool them out quickly. If it's a cool night and you've field dressed him it should be OK. As with any game pay attention to the gut pile. If you see discolored liver or lungs, leave it for coyote bait.

All pork (even from Kroger) should be completely cooked to kill trichinosis.

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You can eat them surely, but a boar with a weight of 200 pds may have a very strong taste and smell. It is very differend and we had here one with a weight of more than 300pds which was OK. Try to cook a bit and you will smell at once the odour like urine when he is inedible. If you shoot next time for kitchen prefer a smaller one. They have a really fine meat.
Don't shoot the female leader of the group. They are very intelligent. She will always remember the place where she lost a member of her group and will not come back for a longer time.

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Robert,

I raise some pigs and after the boars reach sexual maturity or about 140 lbs ,their hormones kick in and screw up the meat. This phenomenon is called "Boar Taint" and Sauenjager is correct. The meat will have a strong odor and flavor. May I suggest using this animal for sausage. The spices and flavorings added to it will hide the " boar taint" is is quite good. Chill the meat until it is 40 degrees F throughout before grinding and it will be easier. If it is a lean hog, which wild ones usually are, you will need to add 20% fat to your sausage mix. If the hog has an off odor to it buy the fat from a local cutter of grocery store and do not use the boar fat. You should be able to buy casings from a local butcher or even a grocery store (I buy mine from Publix Supermarkets) for $10/lb. Soak the casings in h2o overnight. Start off with 1.5 lbs of casing. A little goes a long way. Spicy Italian with fennel seeds is my personal favorite. Any questions just ask. If you can post a pic of it I would like to see it. I'll try to tell you what kind it is.

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I shot a 150 lb sow last year.The meat was fine. There was a little wild taste in the darker meat but you couldn't get better from the local store with the light meat. Like most game this meat is very lean and will be dry if you over cook it.I place mine on the gas grill or smoke it.
 
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As usual I forgot my camera. This boar had dark reddish colored hair. There were small tusks about 1 inch long coming from the lower jaws. I am going back tonight and see if I can get another one, this time smaller. I plan on smoking the meat.
 
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I've taken boar and pig in the USA and South America, they were some of the best eating I have ever had.

Most of the pork diseases such as tricinosis are from slopping the pigs and does not occur in truly wild populations.

 
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I recently shot a 275 pound boar that was about 2 years old and very fat. The guy I was with has killed dozens of them and he says that if they don't stink the meat will be fine, and if they do, leave it. This one didn't stink and it is absolutely wonderful meat. Now if you got one that smelled a little, I dunno, the sausage route would be about the only way to go, I believe.

With pigs, it doesn't really matter what the temperature is, you have to gut him and get him open where he will cool off quickly or the meat will ruin rapidly. It was about 95 degrees when I shot that one and we gutten him immediately and had to drag him about 300 yards before we could get a truck in there. The drag almost did both of us in. As I said, in spite of the ambient temperature the meat was great. Absolutely the best chops I have ever had.

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Redish hogs usually indicate duroc breed. Good meat, well muscled, long lean carcasses. Durocs are a domestic breed. I have 3 duroc / hampshire F1 crosses now. Good Hogs. I don't know what to say about the above posts and lack of boar taint. I can only guess that these hogs were gelded and escaped or there were so many sows around that they couldn't let their, uhh, hormones build up.

Gato, I would like to see a "fat" wild boar. It must live behind the day old bread store or smoke a lot of dope and drink a lot of beer. 260 lbs is bucher/market weight. I'm not saying it's not true, I'm just wondering how wild it really was. How did you know how old it was. I keep asking mine and they never tell me. In jest of course.

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We guessed his age by the length of his cutters and the general size of his body.

He was coal black and definitely a wild hog. Trust me, there aren't any pig farms in W Texas that I know of, and certainly none in this area. As a matter of fact, they catch them in that area and send them back E to the put and take hunting preserves for all you Eastern sports to shoot and to New York and Europe for Texas Wild Hog afficionados.

Finally, he had at least an inch and a half of fat all around him and thicker on the shoulders, now I don't know what you call fat, but the guy with me pronounced him one of the fatest he had ever seen, so argue with him if you want to. I'll send you his email address since you seem to be our resident pig expert.

My ranch has a good many of them on it, but they are almost 100% nocturnal. They feed all summer in my neighbors 1000 acres of corn or so, and you can bet your butt that they are fat and wild too.

 
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A friend and I went out tonight to the other field and he killed a large sow. It was about the same size and weight of the boar I killed last night. It didn't look like it was nursing. The coloring on this one was dark hair, I suppose brown, (it wasn't black) on top and side, very light colored hair on the underside. Through the scope she looked just like last nights boar.

I guess it will be awile before they come back again.

The property owner has a large number of water holes on his property. Mark Twain National Forest is on three sides of his farm. I guess the pigs hang out in the woods during the day when it is warm and then come out to drink and feed at night when it is cool. There are also a few fruit trees around 100 yards behind his house. I have seen a lot of their tracks around those trees.

 
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Wild pigs are a very famous game over here. The enormous fat is possible especially now. The mating season starts (at least here in Europe) in the next weeks and during this 8 weeks the boar do not eat anything. So they may loose more than 80 pds during this time if it is a really big one(but they are very rare). And therefore they are prepared now with this fat.That the boar is in the bunch shows, that the mating season start at your place also. Normal he is alone and hates the trouble of young one
The color varies very and even some of them are white like a hog, some other really black and the next do have a silver tip on their hair. May be some hog escaped and mixed.

From my experience a really heavy odour of the boar can�t be hide with any herbs. Good for dogs no more.
For the others:
Smoking the meat is very good and all other kind of methods to prepare them. It is not easy to find better meat.

But here we have to check all for trichinosis and every year two or three (out of thousands) of them were always found with this disease. If you cook it then there is no problem.

Maize is their most famous food. If you have any Maize-fields around, then you know where they are. Here in our place normally they stay in the maize-fields during the day because this is the most quiet place and nobody bothers them. During the night, they visit the meadows digging for mice and worms or taking fruits.

If you have some tar from the beeches (I do not know the english word for) and paint with this the bottom of a living fir tree near a water hole, you will have the best place to lure them.

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We butchered the boar and he had a layer of fat under his hide that was an inch or so thick. It was thicker on his back. There really wasn't much fat on the meat itself.
 
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RDL,

Throw that fat away and buy some farm-raised fat for sausage. Did the meat have the strong boar smell?


Sauenjager,

Welcome to the site.

Is that "boarhunter" in English? It sure sounds like you know your business. The word you wanted was sap (if thin) or resin (if thick and sticky like tar).

Your English is a lot better than my German.

Don

 
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The meat had no odor at all.

This was my introduction to hunting at night and I need some equipment since I won't always have a telephone pole mounted floodlight nearby. I like using a scope. I need a laser sight and/or a powerful light that is portable and I can turn on without taking my hands off of the rifle, once I am aimed in on a target.

Any of you experienced night hunters have any good suggestions

 
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@Don G

Your translation of the name is correct.

@Robert

Over here the hunting at night is allowed, but without artificial light. So we always have to wait for the moon. This explains also the reason for the big scopes from the European manufacturers some with the lighted dot in the cross of the hair.
Use a red light. Pigs are not able to see the red light. So you can light them and they won�t escape. That�s an experience from a lot of hunters here. (smiling on) But you know it is not allowed to use artificial light here. (smiling off) Some do not know the law it seems.
During moon no light is necessary. If they are engaged to dig out some mice or roots you can walk to them to a distance of 40 of 50 yards without problems. Only conditions are the wind and you should not carrying any noise making things (jingling ammunition f. e.)

BR

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RDL,

The best lighting equipment is a partner.

Have him stand at least 3' to one side of you with the light just ahead of the scope so it doesn't blind you.

I used to use a Q-Beam and a sealed 12V battery. The old batteries out the safety lights in commercial buildings are perfect for the job and usually easily available --and free.

Don

 
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Robert:

None of my business, but I would carefully read the Mo hunting regulations. In many places it is illegal to use a spotlight and a centerfire. I don't know about Missouri, but I would be sure before I proceeded.

 
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Howdy all,

Hog hunting is the most popular of all hunting here in Australia.

Now spotlihting is quite legal here so we all have some experience.
If it is legal look at a Lighforce Blitz 170 spotlight with a sealed battery pack, with a mate holding it is ideal, although the experience here is that as soon as the hog gets light on him he'll run like blazes. The way you;re doing it at present is not a bad method, use an 8x56 scope to really gather the light and you're laughing...our German friend is right on the money, low light scopes are very popular here as well.

Have fun, they're great sport, fast action under a light and always hard to hit when they're running.

Also 300pounds is a big pig, but 250# in grain crop areas isn't that uncommon here, they really blow out fast on crops or in the sugar crop areas, although tusk sizes are small.

Good hunting


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In Missouri, feral or wild pigs are not a season regulated game animal, but a pest. There is no season on them and you can kill them any time.
 
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It's been my experience that the taste of wild hogs is directly related to the type of feed that they get which can be related to location. We have a large lease near the Okeefenokee swamp in southeastern Ga. and we run about 40 feeders year round. We also corn the roads several times a week during the off season. I have shot over 70 hogs there and all were excellent table fare. We only shoot boars and gelts and leave the brood sows. In central and south Florida most large boar hogs have a musk smell to them and are not very good but some make acceptable sausage. Another thing that helps is to catch boar hogs in the off season and cut them. These bar hogs put on weight rapidly and are good eating. I don't shoot many hogs anymore as I have two nephews that take care of our quota's for us. As has been stated it is imperative to clean them ASAP and as a precaution wear rubber gloves when cleaning as they carry diseases that can be transmitted to humans. An older boar hog can be a challenging animal to hunt if they have been shot at for a couple of years. We only hunt daylight hours.
Ralph
 
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RDL,
I have looked into some spotlight thingies that clamp to your scope and have a battery pack you put in a coat pocket with a switch you can mount on the forend. Haven't bought one yet, and the ones I saw might not be good out to 100yds.
When I went hog hunting in the past I always mounted a maglight to the forend with electric tape (won't leave sticky stuff if you take it off after a few hours). Make sure the button is facing out and tape up all the knurling. Its kind of awkward, and I wouldn't try it on your prize rifle. But I have always hunted out of bow stands and the farthest possible shots are about 40 yds. Luckily where I hunted was rocky and you could hear them 100 yds away and be ready for them when the black spots showed up.
I know a maglight won't go out 100 yds, but that is what I have used.
I guess the best thing in a real open situation would be a rechargable brinkman spotlight and just practice holding it with your rifle and aiming and hope for the best.
 
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I was at a friend's house looking through his catalogs and I found what I wanted. It is from a company called Delta Force (www.deltaforce.com). It is called the TACM III rifle light system. It is a flashlight that produces 30,000 candlepower. It comes with a barrel mount that will fit barrels up to 1 inch in diameter and can be had with either a remote pressure switch or a push button on/off. It retails for $134.95.
 
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We always shoot a few of them on our Texas hog lease and bar-b-que them over mesquite coals and they are delicious, regardless of size, sex or color...Course me and my boys are a bunch of coyotes...but our hunters like it to.

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Hello Sauenjager!
I miss hunting in Deutschland! I was a GI with a Jagdschein and used to hunt the Stadtsforst around Burgwindhein on the B-22 near Bamburg and also the Stadtsforst near Aschaffenburg in the Steigerwald. Helped both Forster's with their Abscuss plan as they were always managing trees and never had time to kill their quotas. Over the course of three years I probably killed 20 Reh and maybe 12 Wildschweine--only a few trophies though as most were Jung oder Weibliche. Also have taken a IIB Hirsch near Fulda and a IA Gemsbock near Wendelstein.
I lived in a kleine dorf...Marktsteft am Main. I speak Deutsch well enough but because I lived in Frankonia my German is Frankische Bauer Dialekt! (German Hillbilly)
Three things I miss about Germany are die Jagd, richtige Schwarzbrot, und die freundliche Leute.

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I have shot and speared 4 wild boar in Tennessee, all Russians, and they all made great pork chops and sausage, both fall and spring. No gamey flavor at all, just like Kroger's finest pork. No I am not Jewish or Muslim, and I cook it well.

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Down here in Louisiana, hogs are getting pretty common. We try to take the small ones (around 75 lbs. or less) to eat. The big boars have a stench that I don't even want to try to cook out. This reminds me of a guy I talked to last year, and he said he killed a large boar on the reserve (around 300 lbs.). I told him it was too big for me to eat (made a face when I said it), he said they cooked it in the house and it wasn't too bad as they opened all of the windows! The best way I have seen to cook a hog is in a Cajun microwave, its a wooden box with a lid. A tray is inside of the box. You put the hog on the tray in the box (baste with beer & season well) and put the lid on. On top of the lid is a recessed metal pan (cut into the lid) that you put the charcoal on and you fire it up just like you would a BBQ pit. The box seals all of the juices in. It's Lagniappe!,Talk about good! Best way I've found to cook a hog. BTW, do your cooking outside!
"Joie-de-Vivre"
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OzHunter,
Your right on the Money.
The LightForce spotlight (riffle mounted or hand held) either the 170 or the bigger 240 are excellent illumination out to very long distances.
I've heard that if you use a red lense in front of the spotlight, the pigs are much less startled. I've also heard of setups where there is a variable resisiter (dimmer) between the battery unit ant the light that means that the red beam can be slowly turned up and the pigs don't even notice.
Haven't tried the red light before but shot lots of pigs under spotlight.
 
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@Downunder

With the red light, that's what I told above.

@Jeff

I am between Stuttgart and Munich. So we have no deer. Only a lot of wild pig and roe deer (apart of foxes, bagders..). In comparison to your country a poor place for hunting I believe.
But I am in the same situation like you. The forest guys are engaged with the wood. But I am not in a government area, I hunt in a private area. The earl is only shooting the trophies. I am not interested about the bones so it is a quiet nice place for me.
I think you know the German kind of hunting system and you can assume, that we are behind the wild pig as hard as possible that we have not to pay too much to the farmers.

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Originally posted by Jeff S:

I lived in a kleine dorf...Marktsteft am Main. I speak Deutsch well enough but because I lived in Frankonia my German is Frankische Bauer Dialekt! (German Hillbilly)
Three things I miss about Germany are die Jagd, richtige Schwarzbrot, und die freundliche Leute.

Chuss!


Ah Goddela!

Aner onderer ous Fronken. Ich wor ouch do in den ochtziger Johren on der Universid�d Pomperch - Germanistik.

(Oh G... Someone else from Frankonia. I was there too in the middle of the eighties, at the University og Bamberg, Germanistics)

It�s a nice place, but I didn�t hunt there. As you I miss the black rye bread, the people - and the smoked beer, das Rauchbier.

Fritz K.

 
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Waidmansheil Sauenjaeger,
I also use red coulered spotlight when we wait on a dam (Wasserloch).It works really good.Welcome to the side.Originally I came from Oberoestereich Salzburg.
Good hunting!
Martin
 
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When hog hunting, I usually smell them before I see them. On the hoof and in the herd they do put up quite a stink. But the properly processed meat has always been good. Maybe I just haven't taken any in the rut. Maybe Tennessee boars eat so many acorns that it improves the flavor of the meat. I know spruce ptarmigan taste like spruce needles, and fish eating bears taste fishy when turned into jerky. I have tasted these also.

All my hogs have been around 300 lbs and none of their meat stunk or tasted gamey. I think a lot of the problems with wild game flavor comes from improper handling (not gutted and cooled promptly) or else males in the rut.

They say a dog will not eat a caribou in the rut in Alaska. Non-rut caribou bulls are good eating.

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