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I put this up on his forum and I was banned imagine that.

Its not just Jimmy Houston and others that do this. I have seen ranches here in Texas offer hunts like this.

we need to stop it and stop it fast before hunting is taken away.

Doc

This is exactly why high fenced operations get a bad rep. Not every ranch is like this but the penalties are light enough that it will continue. Penalties for this stuff should be severe.

States can each regulate comercial hunting and Dept of Ag can regulate the raising of stock. All that is needed is to have the definitions refined to include ranching of game animals for comercial hunting to be illegal. The pen sizes regulated to ensure a fair chase, (based on population and cover density), or the elimination of fee's being charged per animal.

I'm not against tresspass fee's, or club's leasing hunting rights. Nate

Absolutely disgusting.It makes me wonder just what kind of individual would feel proud to shoot a deer in a tiny enclosure, let alone a drugged or dying deer.

My thought is wild aniamls were meant to be wild. There is no reason a person needs to raise deer or elk. If they want to manage animals for food that is why cows were bread. Some are going to argue this and that. The point is cwd started from an escaped animal from one of these farms back in the 60's. Now there have been many escapes over the years and we do not need these raised animals poluting the gene pool and bringing more disease to our wild animals. These animals were not ment to be domestic in the first place. We as hunters need to start putting pressure on our states to pass laws making ranching and raising of game aniamls illegal period. Look at the last esacpe by yellowstone it needs to stop. We have a bleeding artery with our wildlife and we better do something about it. How these animals in the video were treated shows what kind of people they are. To me they are not any better then sexaul preditors or murders. They are just as sick and I hope they did not reproduce as we do not need anymore sick people in the human gene pool.

I can't watch all of it. It pisses me off too much. The more that big money and big egos get involved into hunting, the more of this crap we are going to get.

Thanks for sharing this Dakor....this is the very road we are headed down if we're not careful. As hunters, this disgusting commericalization, egotisitcal driven fast food approach to hunting will end it for everyone. Wanting to be recognized with your trophy RIGHT NOW no matter what the cost is what is driving this industry....GREED

Any ethical hunter should be outraged by this...and all you high fence lovers (I've heard your bullshit arguments over and over but you guys still don't get it do you?) will be the one's we thank when hunting is no more...

MG

I don't think the decline in hunting ethics stops at the high fence. I really have a big problem with the increasingly accepted practice of charging different "trespass" fees based on the size, species, and sex of publicly owned game taken on private land After all, only the land is private - the game on it belongs to all of us.

Awesome Video! Thanks for posting it I did a hunt on a game ranch once in TX. Swore I'd never hunt on one again and all I was after was wild and feral hogs.

When I purchased the hunt they said that spot and stalking was an option for hunting on the ranch when I got there they wouldn't let me leave the blinds because of an incident they had a couple of months earlier. They said some hunters got cross ways in each others scopes while one was out trying to stalk some animals. The pastures I was in were over 100 acres each but it still didn't seem like hunting more like killing. I don't hunt because I just want to kill something, there is no fun in that.

I know that it cost money to hunt, but hunting shouldn't be about the money. Hunting for most of us is about the experience and the joy of being in the outdoors. I don't hunt for trophies very often and I've never scored a buck deer or pronghorn for B&C so I don't worry about what they score when I shoot them only if they are legal. I'm not saying keeping records is a bad thing but don't allow high fenced hunts into the record books and that would stop a lot of these problems with game ranches.

absolutely appauling, I have only been hunting for ten yrs, and have heard of these kind of operations, but i have never seen one in the works like the video shows, it make me sick to think we have unethical people like that in the woods with us hunters. no respect for themselves the animlal or the sport

Disgusting. There should be SEVERE PENALTIES for acts like those shown on the video. I can't believe Jimmy Houston still has a show on TV.

I look at as another reason for someone that knows nothing about hunting to have a stereotype of me because they saw somethign similar go on.

Angry is an understatemtn for what it makes me feel like.

Truly shameful. How can they look at themselves in the mirror in the morning?

I can only hope it costs Ole Jimmy his career. Wonder how many of those bass he likes to kiss were hooked by other fisherman, or in traps, and then put on his line by a guy in scuba gear...

Man, one can only be proud when he sees something like this. I'm glad I don't have to deal with anything like this where I come from.

Thank bill23 for this one, just another example of greed in hunting.

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I couldn't watch it all, makes me sick at the stomach.

They ought to torture the sorry suckers that have any thing to do w/ that type of crap.

That gives hunters a terrible name!

Reloader

While I would never do this, unfortunatly it is the way that hunting was done in the past and will be in the future.

Many people in the cities have no time or idea how to get permission to hunt on private land. So that is why all the game guides got started. Now a great majority of them are good outfits that are truly guides, not deer in a pen. But for some people, they don't want to invest the time to truly hunt, they want the trophy right away.

If I went to a game farm like this, I would just butcher the dang thing and not worry about shooting it. But then I am mainly a meat hunter, not a trophy one

Made me sick to watch. I suggest we all post what we think over at Jimmy Houston's forum. A thread has already been started. Tell him what you think.

Truly pathetic.I had to make myself watch the film to the end. I hope they abolish this type of high fence hunting.

Link to the thread on Houston's forum;

http://jimmyhouston.com/community/index.php?PHPSESSID=f...03774391&topic=629.0

I couldn't watch it past the bouncing arrow. The only thing I felt as I watched was sad, very sad. I can't imagine why anyone would find enjoyment in such a thing. I know everyone here and with whom I have hunted would love to see deer like that BUT only after the excitement, effort, planning and hunting that it takes to find one of these creatures. How many of us have passed up good opportunities on opening day just because we don't want the hunting experience to end on day one? This is truly nauseating and I would like to take the owners of such ranches and their clients, put them into enclosures while we each walk by rocks in hand and let them have it.
OK, now I am both sad AND angry.
Stay well all,
Paul

It is definitely disgusting and it embarasses us all as hunters. However, the thing that pisses me off the most is how the narrator implies that ALL high fenced properties operate like this. Here in Texas, facilities like this are almost non-existant. The vast majority of high fenced places in Texas are over 1,000 acres (all one section, not split into pens). On these places, legitimate hunting can be had. We have to make a distinction between facilities like the one shown in the video and ones like I described. We can't just keep lumping them into the same category because they are as different as night and day.

Easy solution, don't watch his show, write his sponsers and refuse to buy thier products if Jimmy Houston is affiliated with them. It won't take long.