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Hi It is obvious that rimmed cartridges are better suited for break open guns . The 307 is a rimmed version of .308 win and why not a rimmed 3006 for using in break open and combo guns. Grmans has a wide varity of rimmed rounds almost one for each rimless round. examples are 6,5 57R for 6.5 57,7 57R for 7 57 and up to 9,3 62 and 9,3 74 R. I beleive a rimmed 3006 would be a nice round. please give me your opinion. TIA Danny | ||
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I agree Danny, I think all cartridges should be available in a flanged version!  ------------------ | |||
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Is the 30 R Blaser what you are looking for? 10.7g at 940m/s [This message has been edited by JAN (edited 05-20-2001).] | ||
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Hej Jan No doubt .30 blaser is very nice round .but it is not international like 3006 and certainly not for poor guys like me . The only negative side of german rounds and guns are the price. you can't compare the price of a german made kiplauf with a thompson-center encore or contender,but both of them can down a game if you do your part well. I hope americans learn from germans to make a rimmed version of each popular cartridge and load the beloved 3030 with spitzer BT bullets to extened the range and mark the box DO NOT USE IN TUBULAR MAGAZIN if the hunters can't read then they are dangerous to the public and do not deserve to hunt or shoot. BR Danny | |||
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Danny what you do is take the 7mm x 65 mm R case and expanded the neck to .308 and poof you have a .30-06 Rimmed cartridge. I would think that it would be a rather simple thing for you to do. The only thing would be to have a barrel made for what ever rife you want and rework the extractor a little. I think it could be don't for not a whole lot of money. Maybe even a .30-06 barrel could be rechambered. So the cost might not be to bad. Other than having some dies made up for hand loading and getting some cases from RWS you should not have much of a problem. | |||
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quote: That would not work with the 30-30 as most people who shoot 30-30 don't read boxes, they just load their old rusty mod 1894 Winchester and go to the woods! That cartridge has been around so long, that nobody pays any attention to it till the bullet hits the deer! Danny, you would be surprized how many shooters, in a free society like the USA, know absolutely nothing about guns, even after haveing shot them all their lives. It wouldn't be three days after the 30-30 spitzer hit the WAL-MART shelves till some farmer blew his fingers off at the second knucle. Someone fires a 7mm express cartridge in a 7mm Rem Mag chamber every day, with as you might guess, not to good result. The round would have to have the shoulder pushed forward a little so it wouldn't chamber in a 30-30 and be renamed as was the 307 ! ------------------ | |||
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quote: MAC>>> In a Ruger No1, the 30-06 barrel could be used by turning it in a couple threads, and rechambering, and cutting the recess for the rim, and reworking the ejector. A break action, or double would be an alltogether different colored zebra! ------------------ | |||
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Hi Goerge If i was a good hanloader? it wouldn't be a problem but, I feel better and safer( I don't own a test barrel to test the loads) IF THE ROUIND WAS FACTORY LOADED.I wonder how many percent of hunters do use only thier own designe and home loaded ammos? Hi Mac I am sorry about the guys that can,t read the labels anyway I read them but I can't write them correctly!!regarding all the owners of combo and single shot 3030 guns maybe the factories could change the name for 3030 with pointed bullets to 0.30 single shot or something like that to avoid the problem. I own a 3030 bolt action and I ,ve tried long time to find loading data with pointed bullet for the gun in vain. there is not a single powder company with loading tips for pointed bullets!!and developing your own loads for a beginer is not a really easy thing to do. BR Danny | |||
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hEAD SPACES ON THE SHOULDER, NO NEED FOR A RIM. THE 35 rEM DOES FINE IN ALL RIFLES CHAMBERED FOR IT. | |||
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quote: I use spitzer bullets in the 30-30 all the time. I have a couple combo guns that have 30-30 berrles, and a very nice little S/S double rifle chambered for 30-30. You simly use the load data for the same weight Flat point bullet, and subsitute the spitzer of the same weight. The only draw back with a lot of 30-30 rifles is they have 1 in 12 twists for 140 to 150 flat points. Mine have 1 in 10" twist that handles anything from 130 to 170 pritty well. The 130 gr Speer spitzer really shoots flat with the 130 gr, and a load of IMR3031. This rifle is an old H&R break top singleshot with a Redfield 2-7x32 scope. ------------------ | |||
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