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I don't like Nosler Partation.

1.They are expensive.
2.They make minsemeat in the forest. I prefere to do that my self at home.
3.They leave little pices og lead all over the place.
and one and on. You can find a lot of bullets that will do the job better and cleaner if you intent to eat what you are shooting.

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Posts: 1082 | Location: Middle-Norway (Veterinary student in Budapest) | Registered: 20 March 2002Reply With Quote
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I seriously doubt that your experience with Nosler Partitions is very extensive.

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I would have to 2nd that!!!!!!!!
 
Posts: 331 | Location: DeBeque, Co. | Registered: 09 August 2001Reply With Quote
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Probably doesn't like CRF actions or Leupold scopes either.
 
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I HAVE HAD VERY GOOD PERFORMANCE FROM NOSLER PARTITIONS IN CALIBERS .243, .284,.308, .338, AND IN A 9.3x74R. THEY GIVE GOOD EXPANSION ALL THE WAY TO 350 YARDS, AND THEY GIVE COMPLETE PENETRATION AT 15 YARDS. THE ONLY PARTITIONS I HAVE HAD NOT GIVE COMPLETE PENETRATION ARE ONES THAT STRUCK THE ANIMAL IN THE FRONT CHEST. THESE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FOUND IN THE REAR HAM. THEY ARE EASY TO BUY IN ANY PART OF THE COUNTRY FOR RELOADERS OR IN FACTORY AMMO. I HAVE USED THEM ON LOTS OF ANIMALS AND HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM. THEY MAY NOT BE THE BEST EXPANDING BULLET FOR EVERY SITUATION, BUT THEIR PERFORMANCE IS PREDICTABLE.
 
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Sounds like you like solids to me. How about a nice FMJ - one hole in, one hole out, no mincemeat, no stray lead. Simple solution.

Considering many dead deer, elk, and African plainsgame due to Nosler Partitions, I have never eaten a bullet fragment. But then again I don't eat hearts and lungs and I don't shoot my game in the ass.

 
Posts: 10780 | Location: Test Tube | Registered: 27 February 2001Reply With Quote
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I like Noslers because they do a lot damage.

If I want to eat, I go to a restaurant.

If I want to hunt, I usually take Nosler.

 
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Posts: 4564 | Location: Idaho Falls, ID, USA | Registered: 21 September 2000Reply With Quote
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I'm with Allen on this-as to which I'll add luckily there are a lot of bullets out there-perhaps just use something else.

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perhaps try the Hornday's-I've had wonderful success with the 180 flat base in an 06

 
Posts: 879 | Location: Bozeman,Montana USA | Registered: 31 October 2001Reply With Quote
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Either you love NP, or you hate it.

That's my experience after talking to hunters in my region. I for one have never used NP in the field. Not because I think this is a bad bullet, but the Oryx in 308 does the job for me.

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So don't use them!

They are not known as a bullet that does a lot of meat damage. Quite the opposite actually.

 
Posts: 498 | Location: Georgia | Registered: 13 January 2002Reply With Quote
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The only times I have had an extensive amount of damage is when I have Hit bones--I sometimes am forced to take shoulder shots when I want the animal stopped exactly where it stands (I live in very steep and brushy country where it is sometimes a challenge to find the animal when it expired on the spot!)The damage caused in such a situation is probably less than would be caused by most other bullets. The bone fragments are the biggest issue. In .308 alone my data base is- in excess of 75 deer and 3 elk, using Rem corelocts, sierra boattails and (far and away the best) Nosler partitions. And you hit it where?
 
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Don't put someone down as inexperienced just because he don't like partitions (or CRF or Leupold which he didn't mention btw). I have the same experience and I know many other as well. I'd even say the more experience they have the more they hate partitions for these very reasons.

As a group Scandinavians seem to like different bullet behavior than Americans . Expansion is prefered over penetration. Low (mv 2600 or so) velocity prefered over high. Heavy bullet for caliber prefered over light.

And, what's cheap and available in the US may not be so in the rest of the world.

 
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How true, the Noslers may be even more pricey overseas. I have fairly extensive experience with different calibers and partitions on whitetail only (nothing else really in La.). They do fine, penetration is great, but it seems the overall damage is not what I would expect, and the exit holes are smaller than with others I have tried and have seen others try.
 
Posts: 323 | Location: Keithville, La. USA | Registered: 14 February 2002Reply With Quote
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I'm sold on the Nosler Partition. Tried them in 338 last year. I have used a lot of different inexpensive bullets, they all had there place, but the Nosler Partiton for me is a "Universal bullet".

The 210 grain going 2850 fps
1. Held togather on Whitetail at 20 yds and left about a 1 inch wound channel.
2. Clean through both shoulders on an antelope at 230 yds - 1.5 inch wound channel.
3. Found just inside the hide on the oposite side of a large Muly shot at about 300yds - through both shoulders and the spine. Still weighed 180 grains. This was not my first shot. First one hit low - through leg and took out the breast bone about 2.5" channel- enought to put him down.

I couldn't ask for any more from a bullet.

The total cost for the Mule Deer/Antelope hunt would have made a nice downpayment on on of Mr. Echols' rifles. I may never get to do this again. The difference in price between a $.40 bullet and a $.75 bullet was insignificant.

But then again, I appear to be a bit different from some of the other posters on this board.

I like 98 Mauser's, 308 win, Redfield Jr mounts, walnut stocks, blued steel, and lower powered Leupold scopes.

I don't care to use magnums(short,long,Utra, ...), muzzle breaks, or hunt with Sierra target bullets. But I also don't care if you use them.

 
Posts: 449 | Location: GA, USA | Registered: 13 March 2001Reply With Quote
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I only use the sierra matchking

I thing my disliking of the Nosler comes from that it was the fist bullets I tried. They costet me 400kr or 60 dollar for 20 rounds. I used up 3 boxes to pass the norweigian hunting test. It took me some time to see that the gun heatet up and stared spreding after 5 shoots. After the test I bougt some CNC copies of the sierra hunterbullet (Not match , thay costed me less than half as much. 140kr or 20 dollars. I killed my fist moose and roedeer with that. They expand a bit to much but thay are ok. I'm going to trie the remington core lock and laupa mega this summer, just to see what they can do.
I have seen about 5 animals hit with nosler. All had bad meat damage. Also I have guttet two moose hit by nosler in the rear that have passed trow the stomac, what a mess! I guess if you only want to kill the animal without using the meat. Nosler will do fine, but I still don't like em.

Johan

 
Posts: 1082 | Location: Middle-Norway (Veterinary student in Budapest) | Registered: 20 March 2002Reply With Quote
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Try shooting through the Rib cage (heart/lung), and you won't waste any meat.
Sounds to me that you problem isn't your bullet choice, it's your shooting skills.

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Posts: 358 | Location: Stafford, Virginia | Registered: 14 August 2001Reply With Quote
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Hmmmm, this is interesting. The last box of Nosler Partitions I used were Federal Premium factory loads 180gr, 30.06. I killed 18 big game animals. Here's the total one 400 pound black bear, 5 pronghorn antelope, 1 6x6 elk (took 3 shots, my fault not the bullet), 5 mule deer, 6 whitetails. With the exception of the elk all were one shot kills. The elk would of likely been one shot had I done my part. Needless to say I like Nosler Partitions. No complaints.
 
Posts: 210 | Location: Montana | Registered: 30 December 2001Reply With Quote
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As much as I like Noslers at 60 bucks for 20 I might have to look around some. I have shot more game with the Partition than all other bullets put together and never noticed any abnormal meat damage. This has included Whitetail, Mulies, Antelope and Elk. Calibers have been .270, 30-06, .300 Win Mag and .300 H&H and .338 Win Mag. What they do is open up and punch through-every time. I have no use for any bullet that doesn't give me an exit hole. A bullet that I am beginning to use more and more is the Swift Scirocco and it looks promiseing. Twenty or thirty animals from now and I will know more. Good hunting.
 
Posts: 400 | Location: Murfreesboro,TN,USA | Registered: 16 January 2002Reply With Quote
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I have had good luck for the most part with noslers. However they are not the end all and there are other good choices out there also. I have only had excessive meat damage once so cant complain there. I am a meat hunter by the way. I use everything I can.

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OverKill is that you?

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Posts: 8350 | Location: Jennings Louisiana, Arkansas by way of Alabama by way of South Carloina by way of County Antrim Irland by way of Lanarkshire Scotland. | Registered: 02 November 2001Reply With Quote
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I like noslers, both partitions and the ballistic tips. Get someting else instead. I have a friend who uses ballistic tips for hunting as a game keeper. He shoots about 800-1200 deers every year. The meat goes to the meatmongers. This means that the meat damage can't be to great. The ballistic tips leaves the barrel at 3100 fps. The deers are shoot through shoulders or in the lower neck area.

According to nosler you can get bad performance if you have a rough barrel that serates the jacket uneven or has to deep grooves. I have always used mine in custom barrels.

JOHAN

 
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Nosler must send all their rejects to norway as I have always had great performance from nosler bullets.
 
Posts: 3104 | Location: alberta,canada | Registered: 28 January 2002Reply With Quote
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I'd rather lose a bit of meat and recover the animal. The front of the Partition might blow up, but I LIKE taking out the offside shoulder of a bear...it slows them down a bit

NP's work, period. If you want perfect meat, buy a steer and shoot it between the eyes

 
Posts: 3082 | Location: Pemberton BC Canada | Registered: 08 March 2001Reply With Quote
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To be destroying meat you are blowing off the front of the bullet..In which case you need to go to a heaver bullet and less meat bruising...A mistake many inexperienced hunters make with Noslers...

The Sierra is much softer and more destructive than any Nosler...so I can only assume you speakith BS....

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Posts: 42190 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000Reply With Quote
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I like simple, cheap bullets that I can aford practicing with so that I know where I'm going to hit. I'm a student with no extra income so money is a big deal. By the way I have only shoot moose and roedeer in the lungs. I know that Sierra expands mutch so I'm going to use the summer to find a bullet with a bit less violent expantion. I don't aim for the shoulder. That deer I wrote about were shoot by menbers of my hunting "team".(Landowners)
I still fells that nosler gives to much destruction. I also here this from my neibor that butchers about 100 deer and moose every year for people around here. He realy hates nosler. The animals dies, but for what?
Is the 180 grain nosler light in a 308 win?

Johan

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Posts: 1082 | Location: Middle-Norway (Veterinary student in Budapest) | Registered: 20 March 2002Reply With Quote
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The 180 gr Partition at 308 Win speeds is "just right".
 
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I think you'll like the remington corelokt. From what I have seen they are quite good for an "el-cheapo" bullet.
 
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You must be using a very light bullet or sending it downrange at very fast velocity I suspect. You never stated what caliber you were using or bullet weight for what particular game animal.

Nosler Partitions have been around for many years and most folks, about 92% have great regard for the bullet on big game. No bullet is 100% all the time, but rest asured the Nosler Partition is one of the best a hunter can buy and use in his or her rifle.

 
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<Ben Rapp>
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I have never personally used Nosler Partitions, but I have used the Fail Safes, and I must say that they are some of the best bullets out there for hunting.

Not to disrespect you, but where are all of these little pieces of lead you refer to? They are designed to retain their lead. I think something like 98% of it. I have never found a piece of fragmented lead from Noslers in any thing I've shot.

The soul perpose of hunting bullets is massive trauma, not neat little holes. I would rather have a bullet that tears the hell out of the guts of an animal, and kill it swiftly, than to have a bullet that leaves a nice, clean hole, but doesn't do the job.

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Im using Nosler Partitions. Ill tell you how they work for me. If youre right, then you can say "I told you so". But if youre wrong, everyone is going to laugh at you (just jokin).
 
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There are those who are in the know and those who are not........ Its pretty apparent those who are not. sigh
 
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