Hi
I have heard that moose are rather easy to kill, here in Sweden one half of yearly 100 000 mooses are killed by by the little 6,5x55Se . if you hunt moose with 3030 then which loading is your favorit load?. the moose is realy easy to approach and they don't care about humans.
regards
danny

Since the 30-30 has killed tons of animals, use the load that shoots the best in your rifle. Of course, you guys probably all go for lung shots if the moose are so easy to approach.

I aways used 170's. Of course, back then I don't remember any 150's in the town stores, and at the time I didn't reload (late 60's early 70's). It always did the job at the distances we hunted, and minute of moose is pretty easy to come by. FWIW - Dan

It is refreshing to see someone else admitting to hunting with the 30 WCF. My grandpa used his for elk and moose. But then again he used the 222 for deer. He always shot well; mostly through the lungs.

I absolutely love the round and the lever rifles.

I must admit that I use my 06 for most everything now. In my 30 WCF I use 170 grain bullets, I have not reloaded in a long time as Pamida sold boxes of Winchester for $6.99 and I stocked up. My favorite bullet was the 170 Interlock.

Alaska/Yukon moose can be very large, and sometimes one can get close enough for a lung shot with a .30-30, while most often they are killed with larger caliber rifles.

I have killed one moose at 100 yards, while the rest have been killed from 300 yards to 200 yards. Most shots have been while the moose are broadside, but I have shot two moose with quartering shots through the chest. I would be hesitant to take a quartering shot on a large moose with a .30-30, but not with my .338WM.

All depends on where you hunt, I guess. Since I hunt in bear country, and sometimes may have to take a 200 to 300-yard shot, I use a .338WM. With this rifle I can break a moose's or a bear's shoulder should I have to.

That said, I am certain that for your type of hunting a .30-30 should work well. It has been used in Alaska for many years, because at close range it produces enough punch to kill large animals.

Is it leagal to hunt moose in Sweden with 30-30?

Greetings......... S�ren

No the 30-30 isn't legal for moose hunting in Sweden!

But if anyone likes the M94 the 307Win and 356Win are legal!

And mooses in Sweden don't ignore humans!

[ 09-22-2003, 02:53: Message edited by: Jamt ]

Hi
once upon a time Sako made ammos loaded with 155 gr spitzer bullets for klass 1(means you can hunt moose) hunting it was 20 or more years ago. now 3030 is only allowed for klass 2 hunting(lesser animals like roe deer),but if you manage to load a 154 gr+ spitzer bullet at 2300+ fps then you can hunt klass 1 animals with it I love this beurocracy yes moose is not shy att all it happened that i have had very long discusion with many of them while gathering mushroom or hunting smal games in the wood. and happend to cry would you please move a little bit they even ignored my hunting dog!!too. after plenty of shouting they left the place slowly please don't tell me moose is a shy guy . i run a test with 3030 federal 170 gr nosler with excellent penetration in both wet and dry papper and i am sure that it will down a moose . i wanted just to know if peoples in other side of the big sea use the lovely 30 for moose hunting.
regards
danny
danny

Hey Guys,

There is another thread here about using "ordinary soft points" on Moose.
The 30/30 will surely work, is it the best choice -NO- is it the worst -NO-
The old saw about a 30/30 in the lungs is better than a 338 in the guts is definitly true. If I had only a 30/30 to use I would use the 170gr Fed. Nosler load 1st and the 170 Hornady Light Mag 2nd.
This is supposing they are available. This whole idea is supposing this is the only gun you have and in a remote setting/situation.

I tend to use my '06 for everything and either a 165gr Horn. or Nosler depending on the target.

I posted the previous too soon. I use a m-94 carbine in 30wcf a lot. Not so much hunting but as a gun that is always in my hands. I have shoot much game with a 30/30, oddly enough mostly with factory ammo. ??? When PMC was rolling out there starfire line I was conducting a huge cull on a big south east farm (they went bankrupt, and never became a viable hunting operation) PMC, Barnes and Nosler all had shooters there testing bullets. I shot 13 whitetail in 1 day witth the 150gr Starfire. It is a real nice load. That said I shot 17 deer another day with a Mini14 and the 45gr X-Bullet. That whacks the crap out of light bodied (65-100lbs) deer.

The 30/30's greatest attribute is that after a hundred plus years, it is loaded perfectly. It is loaded with bullets that are perfect for the velocity. There is no confusion on this with handloaders as well. If it is a 170gr flat nose than it is for a 30/30, not to be stuffed in a 300wby to wonder why it blows up. Also you a not going to put a 180gr failsafe in 30/30 then wonder why there was so little expansion. It is one of the best "balanced" loaded cartiridges out there. It is also very accurate. I like it alot.

ED

As hard as it is to get in range of a decent moose where I hunt and as hard to move as they are I think I'll stick with my 338 for moose.

Danny, the little 30-30 WCF is one of the most underrated cartridges in the world! When used within it's effective range , it will take any Moose that ever lived, and in Canada it has probably taken more Moose since it's birth in 1895 than any other single cartridge! The fact is most of the 30-30 rifles, most being 1894 Winchester lever rifles, are in the hands of farmers, and their decendants, who live in rural areas, and use these rifles for everything from fox to moose! These rifles are usually the only centerfire rifles the origenal owners had, along with a 22 bolt singleshot, and a 12 ga singleshot, for everything. People who hunt with the same rifle for years are usually people you would think know how to use that rifle, regardless of chambering.

Use 170 gr bullets and get close, place them in the heart/lung area, or in the brain, and start packing the meat home!

[ 09-23-2003, 01:22: Message edited by: MacD37 ]

MAC has pretty much pegged it Danny. The people I grew up around hunted with 30-30's and 303's. A few (very few) went for the big 300 (300 Savage that is), one old timer had a 303 Savage (might have been confused when he bought it). I remember one uncle buying a 308 and all the grief he got over his "way too powerful, rocket of a gun". People who hunt for FOOD don't usually (can't afford to) read hunting and shooting magazines. They know what works, because they've seen it work generation after generation. FWIW - Dan

The 30-30 is the most popular moose caliber in the Yukon Flats region of Alaska. That's 10,000 sq miles for what it's worth. Do I use one for that? No.

Good stuff on the 30-30. I agree with everything. Certainly if a 6.5 Swede takes Moose why not a 30-30. But if you're alone in the woods and all you have is the 30-30, would you feel secure?

My father-in-law, back in the 50s, had this debate with himself. He was going out into BC and beyond to work for the DNR (or whatever the Canadian equivalent is). It was down to the 30-30 and the 30-06. He figured that if it came down to it, the 06 would make him feel safer. I think he made the right choice, though he never had to test it.

My point is that if you're confident you'll be at the top of the food chain the whole hunt, might as well take a 30-30 lever action. But without that guarantee, an 06 should provide a better margin of safety. (You could opt for the 30-30 and pack a 454 Casull on your hip, of course).

I used to know an old guy on the Kenai that took a Moose every year since the mis 50's with a 30-30 and plain old 170gr. core lockt's.

This is an excellent example of the OLD Fact;

Bullet placement accounts a lot more for terminal performance, than how much velocity it has when the target is hit. ( Translation; for the critics, where it hits, is more important than how fast it hits.)

A 170 grain Round Nose, will do a lot of damage. The distance it is used at is much more critical than whether the cartridge and round are up to the task of downing a moose.
( Just for the Europeans; One or More than one, in correct English it is Moose either way, for once you don't add an 'S" for plural:
doesn't follow the usual rules of English, like plural of mouse is mice, eg.)

Are we all to believe, mankind never took any Moose, or Elk or Big Bears, until the 30/06 or so was invented?? No one in the know questions a 30/40 Krag being able to take a Moose, all a 30/40 Krag does in the real world over a 30/30 is increase the distance ( range) you can be from your target. It adds 50 yds to the 30/30's range is about all. A 30/06 only adds about 50 yds to the 30/40 Krags range, with similar bullet weights.
A 30/40 Krag is pretty much an older performance version of the 300 Savage for those not familiar with it in actual use.

Yet????