830yd Elk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCyTRzL5AAQ

Too Close for hunting Elk encounters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fiB9Du6Cdc
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKnABuY9mUEUltra
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWiRrss_nAQ

Long shot!
Thats about 400 yards further than I care to shoot game.

Elk are not praire dogs and these guys are not sportsman. I find that practice unethical and wrong..

Nice shot.

I have no problem with a man taking a shot that far if he has the skill and the equipment to do so.

I personally have the skill and equip for ranges out to 500, but prefer 450 and less. Some guys I know would have a harder time connecting with an elk at 150 yards than I would at 450.

Alot of the LR BR guys can make these types of shots very easily.

Reloader

How many did he wound and lose before he got this one?

I know a couple of people with the skills AND the equipment to take such a shot. They wouldn't take a shot like that on game animals however. Long range shooting is for ranges, not game is their take on the subject.

Ken....

I have a problem with this sort of thing for several reasons.
And yet I will admit that I have shot game at far longer istances than I should. Just because I could does not mean that I should.
I shot one elk at over 700, and several at 400 to 500.
They were all one shot drops, taken with plenty of time and far better effect than I had on my worst case elk taken at 100 yards.
Six shots taken at a moving elk all hits and all vital hits but the first one did not drop him and just would not stop traveling.
Although if he had not been about to drop over the edge of an impossible canyon I would not have been so adamant that he go down right now.

The problem with this video is that it is really just sensationalism.
It flys in the face of sportsmanship and hunting ethics and gives the animal rights and anti's ammunition to use against us.
And they will.
And people like these folks will cost us all a lot more than anyone has gained not just doing it but for hells sake filming it and posting it for the entire world to see.

It won't take long before there are people trying to get a law passed that we cannot shoot at game at ranges farther than xx.

Isn't it Germany where that is already in place?

This is no longer the world it was, the country it was nor the way it was.

It used to be that someone made a shot like this and he told a few of his hunting buddies.
Now he posts it on the internet for thousands to see, and critisize.
It is coming and jokers like this are helping it along.

I find it interesting that if I was to post a topic about how I hunt elk with, say, a 22 hornet, I would probably get chastised by many members of this site. But someone posts about shooting elk at 830 yards with a caliber that probably doesn't have much more energy at that range than a 22 hornet does at, say, 50 yards and at least some members will vindicate the notion.

This type of "hunting" may be appropiate for woodchucks and prarie dogs - where any body hit is going to be lethal - but not for any big game animal - there is far too great of chance for error and they deserve more respect than that. The notion that these elk were unapproachable otherwise is bunk. These guys need to get off their butts and start hunting.

I wasn't there obviously but was that really 830. That is very close to a mile and to me it looked more like 500 to 600. Still a long way. Maybe I am mistaken but it didn't look that far to me.

I think a mile is 5000+ feet, that would equate to some where in the neighborhood of 1600 yards.

If I had the ability to shoot 800 yards and kill an elk, why not.

This is the same as those 80 yard bowshots, not for everyone, but it can be done.

A mile is 1760 yards. So 830 is right close to half a mile.

I agree that if you're capable of shooting at that range, and have the discipline and equipment to do it regualarly, then more power to you. However, in no way should that be called hunting. Great shooting, yes; great hunting, not in my mind. The longest shot I've ever taken at big game was 315 yards, which probably should have been shortened. Closer ranges = more exciting hunts to me. If I want the satisfaction of blasting something at long range, varmints are the way to go.

you can take this post as far as you want and in the end nobody will be right.
my definition of "hunting" is the act of finding the animal/prey.
the shooting of the same animal @ 80 or 800 is just that "shooting". if you and your equipment are capable of delievering a clean and humane death....
i would venture a guess and say buck fever claims more wounded and poorly placed hits than long range shots by a very large margin.
it takes lots of practice and experience to know when to attempt a l.r. shot and when not to
just the same it takes lots of practice and experience to place a clean and humane shot while battling the butterflies of buck fever.
when done well at long range or short its a sight to see. when done poorly at any range it is the worse thing you ever hope to see

Seemed pretty windy to me, plus that scope seemed to be wandering quite a bit in my opinion when he pulled the trigger.

Much more luck than skill in that shot IHMO

I'M A 15" GUY MYSELF!! Damn that elk was close. I'd love to shoot another bull with my bow coming right at me.

As far as the 830 yard elk, it's been posted before, possibly by me, and it's been hashed out already. Here's a 700 yard elk kill with a 300 Win, is this more acceptable?

700 yard elk

Here's a 950 yard deer:

950

1000 yard antelope:

1000 yards

1115 and 1016 yard antelope:

long ass ways out there

736 stagg:

dumped him

but the question that everyone's asking is...

is a 30-30 adequate at half a yard?

friar

quote:

Originally posted by friarmeier:
but the question that everyone's asking is...

is a 30-30 adequate at half a yard?

friar

I saw 4 deer taken with the 30-30 in MO in 1996 at 100 or so yards. Worked great! When I was in Tucson many moons ago, a co-worker claimed to have taken a Coues deer on the south side of the Catalinas at 300 yards with his turdy-turdy.

Doc, last fall I shot a doe at twilight (evening, no less ) with my dad's marlin.

I was pushing a 170 gr. Speer at about 2200 fps, and missed the first three shots at 145 yards. The deer was standing at the end of a shooting lane lined with dense red-pine. It must not have known where the shots were coming from.

Basically, I missed because it was too dark to hold the front bead well. On top of that, the bead (brass) covered about 3/4 of the deer's chest (Williams rear peep). I was shooting off a rock-solid log, and didn't have any problem holding steady--I just shouldn't have been shooting!

Against my better judgment, I squeezed off a fourth and heard the "thwack" float back to me. The doe dropped right there and was dead in 20 or 30 seconds. I connected high in the lungs, just behind the shoulder blade. The bullet exited.

Anyhoo, I'd better get my sermon written!

Take care,

friar

Doc killing a deer at 300 with a 30-30 is dang sure doable.
In fact it is rather easy if you know your gun and can jusdge distance.
If nothing else see where the dust boils and adjust from there.
I know that is not considered very cool, but I have to say that there have been MANY deer bite the dust on the far side of 300 with the old 30-30.

Luckily I have outgrown all that nonsense, but you sure would not want to stand at three hundred and let me take a shot at you with my old saddle gun.