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Posts: 125 | Location: malmsbury,vic,australia | Registered: 27 February 2001Reply With Quote
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Holy freakin wow! I wonder how fast the driver was going. I wonder if any humans were killed.


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Posts: 621 | Location: Commonwealth of Virginia | Registered: 06 September 2003Reply With Quote
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WOW!!!!!! Words can't accurately describe the aftermath of something like that.


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Posts: 399 | Location: Louisiana | Registered: 19 February 2004Reply With Quote
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Ya know, not to ruin the party, but I'm a bit skeptical on this one...

The deer is totally wiped out, and cut in half. Yet the liver & heart don't have a scratch on them.

More importantly, who was driving the car? Was he in the driver's seat? Then why is it totally covered in blood? His body should've blocked some of it, and left at least a rough outline that didn't get totally hosed down in blood.

The deer appears to have hit the top of the windshield, meaning that it was "tossed up" when it got hit. If the car was going fast enough to do the supposed damage to the deer's body, why is there not more damage to the legs?

Maybe this is one of those "pictures don't do it justice", or "you had to be there" situations, but on the surface, I'm not buying it...
 
Posts: 2629 | Registered: 21 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Two things. Not trying to start an argument, but what are you not buying? If skeptical, then what alternative scenario would you offer?

Second - shouldn't this this link be posted in the "large humane wound" thread? Wink


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Posts: 1027 | Registered: 24 November 2000Reply With Quote
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Yuck. I'll bet the driver tossed his cookies after realizing he was covered in deer blood/ bodily fluids. Eeker
 
Posts: 152 | Location: West Central Missouri | Registered: 07 January 2004Reply With Quote
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I agree with cold bore...in my neck of the woods, I see a lot of the aftermath from deer vs car collisions. One thing that should be all over that car is rumen materials. There should be green goo from that deer's four chambered stomach everywhere. Also, no one was driving that car because if you notice, there is blood all over the driver's seat...if the driver was sitting there wouldn't all that stuff be on him and not on the front of the seat??
Also that deer is in too good of shape to have made that kind of mess. If you have ever seen a deer that was hit on the interstate by a semi going 75+, all that is left is a red and green stain...and a few chunks the size of your fist.

The guy may have hit that deer with his truck, but all the gore in the cab is BS.

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Posts: 1029 | Registered: 29 January 2004Reply With Quote
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WHY WOULD anyone try to "fake" something like that????

You have the police involved, you have pretty much toasted the vehicle for all intent and purposes.

SO, just so we are clear, some of you do not believe this is the natural end of the scenario, that it was "dressed up?"

Gotta question, you start to see something coming through your windshield, do you sit there and stare at it or do you try to DUCK? just curious.

also love to hear the benefits of dressing up the scene to make it look worse then it would have been??


The reason I don't think it is "faked" is simply because I have taken I don't know how many hundred of car deer accidents over my lifetime and nothing looks "faked" to me.


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Posts: 624 | Location: Michigan | Registered: 07 April 2003Reply With Quote
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Reminds me of a scene from Pulp Fiction. Better call in the Wolf.
 
Posts: 244 | Location: Margaritaville | Registered: 08 January 2005Reply With Quote
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What's up with the evil-type illustrations you guys are providing with your posts?

Is that the sort of statement you guys are trying to making about yourselves?

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I'm not saying anyone's trying to pull one over on the police. I just think that there are too many "inconsistencies" for this to be a naturally occuring scene.

The liver & heart are intact and unscratched. Where are any of the intestines? Vaporized? And how did the liver get behind the drivers seat, on the floor, without either sliding off of the rear seat (no smear), or if "bounced" back forward off of the seat higher up, not hit the back of the drivers seat? Pretty good aim...

You say the driver ducked. OK, logical enough. But, when he sat back up, was the car parked on the side of the road already? If not, why are there no smears on the seat back where he sat back up to drive? I would think his shoulders probably touched it somewhere. How about the side shot of the steering wheel, where you can see the corner of the drivers seat cushion. Again, no smears. How did he get out of the car without touching the seat? Why is the steering wheel not smeared? Did he not have his hands on it to pull over? And how did he open the door to get out of the car? Again, no bloody handprints/smears on the door handle itself, or on the door where he pushed it open.

And again, with this sort of impact, the legs should be busted up a whole lot more.

I'm not sure of why someone would do it, or whatever the case may be. I'd need more pictures of the areas in question before I'm convinced.

It just doesn't all add up...
 
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What's up with the evil-type illustrations you guys are providing with your posts?

Is that the sort of statement you guys are trying to making about yourselves?

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I agree. The middle finger icon is especially classy... Roll Eyes

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Posts: 2629 | Registered: 21 May 2002Reply With Quote
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My wife can do some pretty amazing things with picture editing. The internet is chuck full of "authentic" doctored photos. I agree with all of the inconsistancies pointed out above. Why would some one do this? Why is the sky blue? Not really worth much of an argument but I fall onto the skeptical side, I haven't investigated 1000's of car/deer crashes but it looks more like a scene from a slasher movie than what I have seen from my limited experience.
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Posts: 201 | Location: Virginia | Registered: 25 August 2004Reply With Quote
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IF YOU look at the pictures you really don't have a good shot of what the drivers seat has for history. You only see the upper right hand corner in one picture and part of the left front corner of the seat on another. The seat is fairly clean on the one steering wheel shot wchich is consistent with someone siting there. the blood that is on the leading edge is drip down from the steering wheel. If the person were bent forward and down at the crash the blood splatter on the head rest and seat part that is visible is also consistent. From looking at what the driver would be looking at after the accident and the lack of smearing on the drivers door, I believe the driver never sat back up, just looked at the mess and went over the console to exit the vehicle.


THe blood patterning is consistent with blood velocity patterns.
As for intestines, it looks like stomach contents mixed with the blood in the overall trunk shot in the lower right corner.

The streaks on the back seat behind the driver indicate something made contact after the initial blood splattering and slid down the seat, that is the red "goop" laying on the back seat.

Atually the liver looks like it was separate ejecta and came down between the drivers seat and the console with enough velocity that it flipped a little causing the blood smearing on the lower left edge side of the drivers seat as you look at it from the back seat shot and then you see the blood on the backside of the console where it impacted before it came to rest. I think the picture is a little deceiving in that the liver is not really under the driver seat as much as at the edge where the console and the seat are separated.

Just my thought process on the scene.


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Posts: 624 | Location: Michigan | Registered: 07 April 2003Reply With Quote
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Maybe the car was parked and the deer was doin' 90 and jumped at the windshield.

Sorry. I will go now.
 
Posts: 10 | Location: Western Montana | Registered: 13 December 2004Reply With Quote
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I worked in a Body Shop were we repaired dozens of deer hit's. The external damage is beleivable, we actually had a car/human collision we repaired that externally was very similar except the damage was on the passengers side. But I've never seen that much gore in an accident and kinda think that most of it was added digitally here (one of the deer 1/2's looks fishy too). Maybe it's possible but I don't think so. I was the only person in our shop that would touch the inside of the car/person hit until I disinfected the entire interior. There was nowhere near as much gore as in these pictures But of course they would have taken and buried most of it......Bad memory why did I have to bring it up?........DJ


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Posts: 3976 | Location: Oklahoma,USA | Registered: 27 February 2004Reply With Quote
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Maybe this was the first deer to be shot out of a cannon at the circus?? bewildered

This photo is bogus. thumbdown

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Posts: 1029 | Registered: 29 January 2004Reply With Quote
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I friend of mine hit a deer about 6 years ago with his car going roughly 100 mph, the deers head went through the windshield and ended up in the back seat, completely decapitated it and really messed up the car, it actually looked very similar to this incident but less bloody.
 
Posts: 215 | Registered: 22 June 2004Reply With Quote
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I dunno, could be faked, I wasn't there. But like Lawcop, I've done/seen a hundred such critter/car crashes; deer (100+), horses (3) , cow (1, vs motorcycle...bad), and Canadian geese (two, one real bad). I believe this is legit. I've seen two that were close to this one.

At least one part of the deer ended up in the far back of the vehicle against the liftgate. Green/brown goo is visible there. Something obviously layed there and bled out. Photo of one half or the other (both?) was probably taken after it was removed from car.

If you see such blood/guts scene stuff long enough you will eventually see stuff that doesn't end up looking like one would expect.
 
Posts: 3300 | Location: Western Slope Colorado, USA | Registered: 17 August 2001Reply With Quote
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