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Personally I'm afraid of heights so this doesn't apply to me but I am posting this very sad story to REMIND everyone that it can happen to ANYONE. BE CAREFUL, WEAR SAFETY EQUIPMENT.
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Thanks for the reminder Gato. It is that time of year and I will spend 4-5 mornings or evenings a week 25' up in my climber for the next 3 months. My wife was a rehab nurse for a bunch of years and is now a neuro nurse practitioner. Along time ago she told me she did not care how many days i hunted but I have a safety vest. So now i do not go without it. The new ones have pockets and clips. Never go in woods without it.. | |||
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This is MANDATORY, doesn't matter if it's a 12' Post Oak, or a 100' Cottonwood, please wear your safety harness. What a great looking young man, with everything in front of him, God Bless him, and his family.. This is very sad | |||
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A very BRUTAL reminder. I can't say I wouldn't make the same call. God rest his soul. | |||
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I feel naked without my harness, like driving without a seatbelt. Both the harness and seatbelt took getting used to, but they will save lives at very little cost. I read somewhere about a man volunteering with a disabled hunters group. Most of the hunters were disabled in tree stand falls. Many people use the argument that the harness will break you with the sudden shock, or cut off circulation in your legs like a tourniquet. That is untrue if you have it adjusted properly. I set mine to just barely tighten on me when I sit down. There is no way I could fall far enough to get hurt, and if I slip off the stand, I will still be at the same level to get back on. Plus, mine has a loop extending to foot level, so I can put the weight on a foot instead of the harness holding me. I am a better hunter with the harness, since I am not worried about falling. Jason | |||
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My brother just had an incident with a climber. Scared the hell out of him I never use the safety equipment which is probably stupid. My climber faces the tree and I have a rail all around me. Between my brother and this, it makes me think. | |||
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Probably? Larry, please us your safety equipment. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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I do also feel naked in the tree without my safety harness. A few weeks ago I climed into the tree and noticed I forgot to put my harness on (just tight on time and failed to put it on). I don't have a very far walk to my stand location so, I climbed out of the tree and got the harness and then reclimbed the tree. It's not worth taking the chance. A gentlemen I work with told me his brother fell out of a tree a few years ago. The stand gave way and he tumbled 16 ft', hitting multiple branches on the way down. That may have save his life but, still ended up with a broken collar bone, broken wrist and forearm. MSG, USA (Ret.) Armor NRA Life Memeber | |||
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I always attach the harness tether so it only allows me to seat in the seat if the stand has one. Then if one falls the drop is a little ways at the most. I have done a lot of repelling, rock, tree climbing. With proper equipment use one doesn't have to take a long fall it you slip. | |||
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I'd rather be hanging and give myself time to figure out how to get down then fall very quickly. Tree stands cause more hunting injuries then guns do, I wish the yound man peace along with the family. When there's lead in the air, there's hope!!!! | |||
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I fell out of my ladder stand. When I realized I was falling, I pushed myself forward to fall into a cedar tree in front of the ladder.....so the branches broke my fall. My rifle's muzzle dug itself into the dirt, and required cleaning. No other problem. | |||
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I stopped using climbers or lash (chain) on tree stands after a couple of "oh sh*t" moments while putting the things up or taking them down. How you would do this with a safety belt securely fastened escapes me. Had a friend get 30+ stitches in his leg from those screw in steps. (Pack boot slipped off on way up, ripped right through heavy clothes and tore the inside of his leg, nasty but not fatal. Now if you were unlucky enough to get one planted in your thigh...) Ladder stands seem a hell of a lot safer to me, which is why I switched to one. Yes, more weight to carry into the field, I transport mine on a game cart. I find them easier to put up and infinitely safer during the critical "lashing it to the tree" phase. Obviously, nothing is accident or idiot proof, but it's worth a look if climbers (just makes me cringe writing the word) or chain on types are giving you the "I could die doing this..." And yes, I lash on the safety belt as soon as possible. | |||
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Falling from a "loc-on" style treestand my L-2 was crushed and my pelvis broken. I was reaching to attach a safety belt when the stand broke. 18 feet later (and 6 months without walking unassisted) I could finally get around with a walker. ...and I consider myself lucky. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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HunterMontana/JudgeG, I agree with the loc on type of stands. Never found a way of getting in and out that satisfied me. Climber on the other hand I feel good in. Like any tree stand the dangerous time is the transition from climbing to sitting and vice versa. I strap on basically as soon as I step on the platform and move the rope with me. Also others have commented on keeping the rope tight enough that if you do fall, there is not alot of speed built up prior to the yank of the rope. Important to be close to tree stand so you can grab hold and get back up rather than dangles in between! Great thread. | |||
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If you are really serious about tree stand safety.... Figure out a rescue plan before you are hanging. Its only minutes until 'suspension trauma' sets in. Essentially the blood flow is cut to your legs allowing the toxins your kidneys, liver, and lungs remove to accumulate. If you allow yourself to fall too far you also have a thrombosis possibility. My harness has "lineman's loops", My pocket has two lengths of rope, one to drop. My plan is to get a line around the tree tied to the linemans loops. And cut the top line/strap. There is no reason to climb a ladder without being tied off 100% of the time. More falls occur while going from ladder to stand. Learn to tie a Prusick Knot. It goes onto a safety line from above your tree stand to the ground. You slide the knot up with you as you climb, its quiet and could save your life. If its worth doing....do it right! | |||
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All this harness talk got me into doing some harness comparing. My rock climbing harness transfers most of my weight to the waist belt and very little to the legs and groin area I have hung around in that some time with out any trouble. All the full body harness's that I have gotten with my tree stands transfers the hanging weight to the groin and leg straps causing discomfort really soon. The attachment points on my rock harness are at the waist where the stand harness's I have are at shoulder level But then again my rock climbing harness cost as much or more then a lot of single person ladder stands that come with a harness. I guess I'll have to investigate some of the higher end stand harness's and see how they handle the weight. | |||
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Years ago the construction industry used waist belts. Tremendous amounts of injuries to backs by being jerked to a stop at your beltline. I am not a rock climber. I believe you will never get a free fall while climbing. No shock to your middle. Not the same case as tree stands. Industry is now using harnesses that allow a conscious user to sit back into them, relieving the pressure on the groin. Another option is a suspension trauma strap. A rope or strap loop that you can stand on, again relieving pressure on your groin. | |||
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