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Can nonresidents apply for Tule elk hunts in California?? -TONY Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer" | ||
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Elk Tag $ 339.50 Resident $ 1,050.00 Nonresident You must be at least 12 years of age on or before July 1, 2007 with a 2007/2008 California hunting license. Each person may submit only one elk drawing application each year. http://www.dfg.ca.gov/licensing/hunting/huntdescrip.html Wherever you go, there you are! | |||
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Oh, that'll be neat. If CA Rep. Duncan Hunter's bill becomes law, NRs will be able to get a $200 tag for Tule elk there. Thanks, Marsh Mule. -TONY Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer" | |||
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And if the CA legislature gets it way, you won't be able to bring a rifle into the state to hunt with.... Elk tags are few and far between here, but the elk that are taken are pretty impressive. John | |||
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Only if the Elk are on Federal land.  Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Indeed. That would include significant portions of Cache Creek, E. Park Reservoir, La Panza, Owens Valley and Ft. Hunter Liggett. -TONY Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer" | |||
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Yes, but of course the DFG could limit the hunting areas to state lands only. Remember, you are talking about a state with 58 counties and 45 separate deer zones that each have individual quotas and fundamentally no doe season. All of this generating a deer hunting succes rate of about 10% statewide. ley managed Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Mike, In perusing all the area descriptions for the tule elk hunts, it appears Grizzly Island is the only one consisting of mostly state land. That's why I didn't list it. One or two of the others also contain some private land and perhaps some state land. All the descriptions read somewhat like: The Bishop Hunt Zone contains a mixture of both public and private lands. Public lands within the zone are administered by the U.S. National Park, U.S. Forest Service, and U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM). A significant portion of Owens Valley is also owned by the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power (LADWP). The Cache Creek Hunt Zone contains a mixture of both public and private lands. Elk are not evenly distributed within the hunt zone. Thus, significant numbers of elk are on private land, where access may be restricted. Remember, hunters must obtain and have in their possession,written permission to hunt on private property. Hunter trespass laws are strictly enforced. Public lands within the zone are administered by the California Department of Fish & Game (DFG), U.S.Fish and Wildlife (USFWS), State Lands Commission, and Bureau of Land Management (BLM). The East Park Reservoir Hunt Zone contains a mixture of both public and private lands. Public lands within the zone are administered by the U.S. Forest Service, U.S. Bureau of Reclamation (BR), U.S. Fish and Wildlife (USFWS), and U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM). The Fort Hunter Liggett Hunt Zone contains public land. The land within the zone is administered by the Fort Hunter Liggett Military Base. For La Panza:Several sources of maps that cover the hunt area are available. The Los Padres National Forest publishes the Recreation Map for the Forest, at a 1/2 inch per mile scale, which is a good general guide for much of the hunt area. Please call (805) 925-9538 for information on obtaining a map. Visit the above website address for specific zone regulations (hunt zone map, description, and harvest success information can also be viewed at this address). The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) publishes an excellent series of maps that cover the hunt zone. Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer" | |||
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Tony, I was just clowning around. Are DFG struggles because of the anti hunting environment we have. Cache Creek & La Panza are pretty good areas. I have a friend who took a bull in La Panza this year and Dave Beiber's (loud-n-boomer)daughter who posts here took a nice bull in La Panza also. If you ever get drawn email would be more than happy to help in any way i can with logistics support. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Mike, It's not likely I'll ever even apply at $1,050.00 a pop! I'm gonna wait until Hunter's bill passes. -TONYTony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer" | |||
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Good luck getting a tag, as there are not many issued. That is the hardest part here in California. Of course, you could shell out about $16,000.00 (last time I checked) to take a bull on Ft, Tejon Ranch. -eric " . . . a gun is better worn and with bloom off---So is a saddle---People too by God." -EH | |||
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Eric, Not likely on the Tejon scenario.  Although I've killed 13 RM elk so far, I still haven't had one mounted. The antlers of the one I did plan to mount got stolen when I lived in CO. But I don't want one THAT bad. If I had a spare $16K, I would be off to AK after a brown bear or perhaps a sheep there or in BC or in the Yukon. I haven't hunted any of them yet, and after 35 years of trying for a desert sheep permit in my own state, I'm getting frustrated because if I do ever draw, I might be too old to get up a mountain.  -TONYTony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer" | |||
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Hey OW, the price is now $20K! I agree with you; there is a lot more hunting one could do for that price. Those crazy L.A. types are willing to pay that much, I guess. Not me! -eric " . . . a gun is better worn and with bloom off---So is a saddle---People too by God." -EH | |||
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