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I ran into this story in the paper and was instantly pi$$ed off.

http://www.cdapress.com/news/l...21-6305e2e01e8d.html

This Teacher in Idaho Justin Taylor who makes 31,750 dollars per year from taxpayers for indoctrinating our children. If I lived in that school district I would want him fired. This kid of cr@p makes me sick. He is quoted in the story saying

"We were exploring facts and creating opinions about the wolf hunting debate in Idaho," Taylor said. "We also looked at propaganda and bias to determine the reliability of resources. We held a debate and argued for or against the hunting of gray wolves in Idaho."

Then he goes on to say.

"Idaho Fish and Game has a lot of info on the topic and is clearly in favor of hunting wolves," Taylor said. "I also found some video put out from New York Times that objectively examined and reported on the situation."

The new York times objectively reported? Ya right. Ron
 
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sad situation ID Ron-

I was hopeful when I read that he held a debate about wolf hunting in ID. But very disappointed when he played pro wolf video from a state that doesn't have any and then brought in some pro wolf speakers with pups to love on the kids. Seems like if he was at all serious about presenting both sides of the issue he would have had some IF&G people to talk about wolf hunting or even some experienced hunters.

Since I noticed he made a comment about the kids growing up to vote I wonder if he is telling them who to vote for as well. Frowner
 
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Another one of those so called "teachers"!!!! When is it ever going to stop. I'd like to kiss a few wolves with my 44.
 
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It won't stop until we complain loud enough to get teachers like this fired. Ron
 
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Guys, I am a school teacher and hunter. You can bet that I want my students to have all the information available.

You ask, "Why would you want them to have both sides?!"

The answer is simple: hunting is always the right thing if populations are healthy.

Letting kids see both sides gives them a chance to make informed decisions. Informed decisions will stick with them, brainwashing may or may not. Seeing the lies the antis feed them makes them question the propaganda. It also enables them to recognize the BS arguments and not get sucked-in.

If we don't teach them, then the will get their information from movies like Never Cry Wolf(remember that one, where wolves subsist on field mice?)


Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________

Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
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I was given this email address for the superintendent of Idaho schools. Tom Luna.

trluna@sde.idaho.gov
 
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It's real simple why he and people like him are teaching our kids. So they can teach our kids to think like them. If you are taught from a young age to believe that hunting is evil from a "teacher" who is in a position of authority, you will believe it. They shape and mold our kids mind to think the way they want them to.
 
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All that need happen is for one of those kids to have a Roy Horn moment.

What is it with this belief that man can recreate the garden of Eden by himself?

Sam
 
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You have no one to blame but yourselves. I've talked to too many folks that were whining and bitching about the teachers, curriculum, etc and when I asked how many PTA meetings they attended, how often they monitored their kids lessons, and such all I got was a duh look.
The same thing that has happened to the schools has happened in politics. We have depended on others to watch our hen house.

Beeman


I concluded my speech by telling them that I was done with politics for the present, and they might all go to hell, and I would go to Texas. -- Davy Crockett 11AUG1935
 
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We send them to school, we buy them books, they eat the covers..thus the old saying, "An educated idiot" and they are many...

The anti hunters and the bunny huggers do incredible damage to our wildlife, both the preditors, the grazers, the birds and fish, not to mention livestock..They do this damage with the best of intentions in most cases, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions..

Bottom line is they are a bunch of ignorant ill informed wusses that have made no attempt at investigating their causes..

They do not understand the mathamatics and that is disgraceful for one that is well educated...s

So how about a Math 101 update on conservation of wildlife, it goes like this:

Game management and common since tells us that elk and deer have one or two offspring each year of wit one normally survives and one does not.

Wolves on the other hand normally have 2.5 LITTERS of pups per year but to be safe lets just call it 2 litters, usually 4 to 8 pups per litter so that is 8 to 16 pups per year of which most survive in an Idaho enviorment..within a matter of a few years the preditors outnumber the food chain, so now they have to feed on livestock and then our children. If you doubt this then read a California newspaper, the preditors are already eating the kids in California, go figure where this wolf thing is going..

It is too late to wipe them out, they breed like Cockroches, you have to poison, trap, hunt from Helicopters with horsemen on the ground JUST TO CONTROL THEM...The Texan Sheep and Goat Assn. have known this for centuries as they have fought the coyote tooth and nail, they have fought the court system, and the same morans that we are now dealing with. The declard war on the coyote in the late 40s and have yet to win that big battle, the coyotes are still eating their sheep and killing calves in East Texas..

The elk population in Idaho has been severely diminished, many hunters this year claim to have seen more wolves than Elk and the traditional feeding grounds contain as many wolves as they do elk..

I try to be polite and try to explain to those who think the wolf has a place in Idaho, but the bottom line is you cannot reason with those friggen imbecileic SOBs, they are simply, like most liberal Democrats, operating on an agenda that they do not understand and don't care, its a cause right or wrong any cause is just in their minds.

That's my soap box rant for today..God Bless our Idaho Game Dept, at least they are trying to work it out, but they just don't understand as yet how hard that will be to accomplish with simply openning the season on wolves. That won't dent the population.


Ray Atkinson
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It is too bad that the parents weren't there. I would be interested to see how many parents are unemployed, or have lost money because the F&G can't sell the deer and elk tags. Ron
 
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I have a nephew who is studying politics at the University of Utah. We used to golf on a regular basis, but he was always reluctant to offer his view on political matters.

I finaly put the question to him, What is your affiliation? He claimed to be a conservative.

Then one day he E-mailed me a paper he wrote for school about "what direction should America take?" and although it did have a few decent things to say about Capitalism, the damn thing was loaded down with Marxist dogma, not just socialist, Marxist.. And this is a young man with several degrees from a University in a Conservative state.. I gave a stern reply, told him that he has been indoctrinated, and now he doesnt much like to golf with me anymore.. old Big Grin

The Libtards own Academia. It has been bought by the Saudis and Communist special interests..

It is an extremly unsetteling situation IMO.

As far as I am concerned, screw hearing both sides. Communist intrests and American intrests are in direct conflict with one another. Compromising with a liberal is like trying to compromise with a murderer. America isnt polarized enough..



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Originally posted by Wstrnhuntr:
As far as I am concerned, screw hearing both sides. Communist intrests and American intrests are in direct conflict with one another.


I hope you don't really believe that. If given a clear view of both sides there is NO WAY anyone would choose communism.

Just look at how many of the countries that were communist but have moved steadily into capitalism.

Communism does not work. History has proven that.


Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________

Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
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Originally posted by Atkinson:
We send them to school, we buy them books, they eat the covers..thus the old saying, "An educated idiot" and they are many...

The anti hunters and the bunny huggers do incredible damage to our wildlife, both the preditors, the grazers, the birds and fish, not to mention livestock..They do this damage with the best of intentions in most cases, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions..

Bottom line is they are a bunch of ignorant ill informed wusses that have made no attempt at investigating their causes..

They do not understand the mathamatics and that is disgraceful for one that is well educated...s

So how about a Math 101 update on conservation of wildlife, it goes like this:

Game management and common since tells us that elk and deer have one or two offspring each year of wit one normally survives and one does not.

Wolves on the other hand normally have 2.5 LITTERS of pups per year but to be safe lets just call it 2 litters, usually 4 to 8 pups per litter so that is 8 to 16 pups per year of which most survive in an Idaho enviorment..within a matter of a few years the preditors outnumber the food chain, so now they have to feed on livestock and then our children. If you doubt this then read a California newspaper, the preditors are already eating the kids in California, go figure where this wolf thing is going..

It is too late to wipe them out, they breed like Cockroches, you have to poison, trap, hunt from Helicopters with horsemen on the ground JUST TO CONTROL THEM...The Texan Sheep and Goat Assn. have known this for centuries as they have fought the coyote tooth and nail, they have fought the court system, and the same morans that we are now dealing with. The declard war on the coyote in the late 40s and have yet to win that big battle, the coyotes are still eating their sheep and killing calves in East Texas..

The elk population in Idaho has been severely diminished, many hunters this year claim to have seen more wolves than Elk and the traditional feeding grounds contain as many wolves as they do elk..

I try to be polite and try to explain to those who think the wolf has a place in Idaho, but the bottom line is you cannot reason with those friggen imbecileic SOBs, they are simply, like most liberal Democrats, operating on an agenda that they do not understand and don't care, its a cause right or wrong any cause is just in their minds.

That's my soap box rant for today..God Bless our Idaho Game Dept, at least they are trying to work it out, but they just don't understand as yet how hard that will be to accomplish with simply openning the season on wolves. That won't dent the population.
tu2 tu2 You couldn't be more right!
 
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I am afraid that we are going to have to correct this situation the same way as was done in the early 20th Century, by wiping them out again. Most disturbing to me is stocking wolves in areas they've never been and the harsh consequences to existing wildlife and livestock. Makes no sense.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Atkinson:

It is too late to wipe them out, they breed like Cockroches, you have to poison, trap, hunt from Helicopters with horsemen on the ground JUST TO CONTROL THEM...The Texan Sheep and Goat Assn. have known this for centuries as they have fought the coyote tooth and nail, they have fought the court system, and the same morans that we are now dealing with. The declard war on the coyote in the late 40s and have yet to win that big battle, the coyotes are still eating their sheep and killing calves in East Texas..

The elk population in Idaho has been severely diminished, many hunters this year claim to have seen more wolves than Elk and the traditional feeding grounds contain as many wolves as they do elk..


Norman Solberg
International lawyer back in the US after 25 years and, having met a few of the bad guys and governments here and around the world, now focusing on private trusts that protect wealth from them. NRA Life Member for 50 years, NRA Endowment Member from 2014, NRA Patron from 2016.
 
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"There are more communists teaching in American schools than in all of Mother Russia."
Nikita Kruschev.

"There is no need for Russia to attack the United States. It will be totally communist in 10 years."
Nikita Kruschev.

"What good fortune for government that the people do not think."
Adolph Hitler

Nuff said? Mad
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