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New world record P&Y elk.
12 September 2007, 07:14
kudu56New world record P&Y elk.
I was talking to my son, who is guiding in Utah, and he said a 443 elk was shot with a bow recently near Holden. That should do the P&Y record. If I get any pics I will post them. I wonder when the magic number will hit 500!
I remember when a 300 was a good elk. LOL!
12 September 2007, 09:19
L. David KeithFind out if it was a free range Elk. The last monster to hit the Net was under fence. Keep us posted, LDK
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12 September 2007, 18:06
kudu56As far as I know this one was a public land Utah bull. Last year he was in the 390 class. There have been a score of 390 to 410 bulls taken in Utah in the last couple of years.,
I am not even sure if there are any fenced elk ranches in Utah.
12 September 2007, 20:43
Desert SheepThere are high fence hunts in Utah. Rulon Jones - former Bronco player has one called Broadmouth Canyon Ranch in Liberty, Utah.
http://utahelkhunt.com/13 September 2007, 04:17
kudu56I talked with another guy from Utah today, I guess it is for sure and public land elk. A few are saying it was off a hay field, but wild. The sheds from last year were 390+. Still no pics of it. There are video of it alive before season, and quite a few shots after it was shot. Some photos will surface I am sure.
13 September 2007, 16:16
24mileboyI saw this on another site. This is the bull.
http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/uploads/monthly_09_...23817-1189216504.jpg13 September 2007, 17:28
muygrandeA beautiful bull. Thanks for the pic
13 September 2007, 17:35
MACHope it is legit. It would be nice to see a regular Joe and someone besides Chuck Adams get a record.
Nothing personal against Adams mind you, but he is kind of irritating with his World Record after World Record mentality.
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13 September 2007, 21:31
MCWhile the bull in the link is an incredible animal (scoring over 405 b&c), it is
not the record bull.
The "Record" bull scores over 440, killed on public land. It was shot with the aide of an outfitter who has a certain stigma surrounding their operation. Usually there are 2-10 subguides and spotters on the higher $$$$$ hunts. Babysitting the animals is commonplace and intimidation has also been used. BUT, it was killed with a bow and arrow, so there had to be more hunting than some of the point and shoot rifle fiascos.
Does B&C or P&Y allow radios and the sort to be used in "fair-chase" entries?...............
13 September 2007, 22:03
SDhunterMC & others,
That is why I could care less about score anymore. There is way more to a hunt than the final score, although some hunters have a score only mentality.
I hope that it truly is a wild elk taken under fair chase. But then, I am a realist.
I am afraid the days of regular Joe Hunter on a DIY hunt shooting a world record are pretty much over.
There is too much money, prestige and ego stroking to allow that to happen anymore.
Already the story is supposedly getting out. hay field, outfitter guarding elk etc.
It may have not been a fenced area, but my guess is the elk in that area are habituated.
14 September 2007, 05:04
kudu56443 is what I heard!
14 September 2007, 05:20
yukon deltaThe use of radios is not allowed in record entries. In some states, it's just plain illegal. I would be curious to see the elk in question.
Understood on the Adams thing...but he has shot some huge elk. It will just motivate him to get another one. I think he has held that record twice.
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14 September 2007, 08:55
bowhuntrrlquote:
Originally posted by MC:
While the bull in the link is an incredible animal (scoring over 405 b&c), it is not the record bull.
The "Record" bull scores over 440, killed on public land. It was shot with the aide of an outfitter who has a certain stigma surrounding their operation. Usually there are 2-10 subguides and spotters on the higher $$$$$ hunts. Babysitting the animals is commonplace and intimidation has also been used. BUT, it was killed with a bow and arrow, so there had to be more hunting than some of the point and shoot rifle fiascos.
Does B&C or P&Y allow radios and the sort to be used in "fair-chase" entries?...............
Gee, you must be talking about USO and their tactics. I would love for them to try to intimidate me when I'm hunting on public land.
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14 September 2007, 09:04
yukon deltaWhatever happened with the USO using airplanes illegally?
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