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Well the load development is over and the Interloc took first place in Accuracy. He dropped the idea of using the SST. The Grand Slam is a 165 grain bullet and he is taking some of them too. Using Varget Jo got 2800 fps with the 165 GS and 2650 with the Interloc. The GS hit one inch higher than the Interloc so they are both usefull as sighted in. Come on Oct. 1st.
 
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Rickt300: Your attitude toward the "EXCELLENT" Nosler Partitions only shows your own personal ineptitude and inexperience!
Decrying the use of these "SENSATONAL" performing Hunting bullets is like cutting off your nose to spite your face!
Senseless, inane, assinine, unfounded and ridiculous about best describes your statement regarding Noslers.
Your question may as well be stated "why would anyone want to use a bullet on Elk that reliably performs (kills!) and is splendidly accurate (allows your bullet to be better placed in a lethal spot on ones quarry)"?
Get some more decades of Big Game Hunting under your belt, of a very wide range of Big Game species at varying ranges and under varying conditions (like I have done!) and closely observe the circumstances that hundreds of other Hunters encounter (like I have!) and their results (with all bullets!) and you will quietly rescind your ridiculous assessment of the reliable, accurate and dependable Nosler Partitions!
Did you ever consider this - there must be SOME reason why they are the most popular and most used premium Big Game Hunting bullet on earth?
Long live the Nosler Partitions!
I really hate to see misleading inaccurate and unfounded statements like you made go uncorrected! I hope you do not mind being corrected!
The only possible reason that you would decry the wonderful Nosler Partitions is because you are a poor game shot! The only failures I have ever seen when Nosler partitions were being used were with poor shot placement! If you are a poor shot do not blame that on the Nosler Company. That is your shortcoming NOT the Nosler Partitions!
Be prepared to take another thrashing publicly if you should dare to try and refute my decades of experience as I am preparing a list of Big Game Animals that I have cleanly, quickly and humanely harvested with ONE SHOT apiece using the wonderful Nosler Partitions. But then again I shoot year round at the range as well as Hunting Varmints. I virtually never take a shot that I am less than certain will take my Nosler Partitions into the intended animals vitals! Once that shot is made the Nosler Partitions DO NOT FAIL! Take a chance and recommend something else if you wish but you ARE making a blatant mistake by condemning the Nosler Partitions!
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Posts: 3067 | Location: South West Montana | Registered: 20 August 2002Reply With Quote
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Ric300: THE bullet to use is:
THE Nosler 165 gr. Partition - period!
Good luck to your friend on his Elk Hunt!
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I find the sst a bit soft. The GS is now no better than the Interlok, so shoot which ever bullet works for your rifle. If I was shooting a .308 I think I would go w/ a 165gr NP & stay under 250yds.
 
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I have used the 180 grain Grand Slam on moose from a '06 with excellent results, if it shoots well in his gun, this is what I would recommend.
 
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I load all three of the bullets you mentioned. I use the 117gr. SST for deer and antelope in a 257 imp. I use the 180gr. Interlock for elk in a 30-06 imp. and I load the 180gr.GS in a 300 Wthby for my wife's uncle (the only load he uses and swears by). I agree with the others that have said to leave the SST at home. It does a great job on the smaller game but IMHO it's a little fragile for elk. I have never had an interlock fail on elk, but I make sure I take lung shots. With the speeds that the 308 produces, I think the interlock would be a great choice. I'm not too concerned about the difference in price between the two bullets, but I would give the Hornady a try first. If you want the excuse of trying a new bullet, the 165gr. Hornady Interbond may be the perfect bullet in a 308. You can also get a little higher velocity with the lighter bullets and it will stay together for higher retained weight. Speer also makes a 165gr. GS, so that may be woth a try as well. In fact my hunting buddy has a box of the 165 SST IB. I think i'm going to try to talk him out of a few to try in my 06' imp. I should be able to get 3000fps with them.

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R, please elaborate. I'm always open to other's experiences. I only shoot the NP, except in my .404, and have always had good results w/ good placement.
 
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My experiences with the Nosler partition make it my last choice in any kind of hunting. I don't find them any more effective than other bullets and they seem to be less effective under most circumstances.
 
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Screw all this Nosler BS. I am sick of it. I have used em and discarded em, they are not necessary for elk hunting and are not the quickest killers. Why use a bullet with 65% weight retention when you can have one that retains 85% and holds a wide frontal diameter. If you can shoot and know where to put your bullets then there are many bullets that will make a wider wound channel deeper than a partition. Thw partirtion may ultimately drive deeper but the channel will be very narrow at the last half of it's length.
 
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