Just returned from elk hunting in Northern Colorado. Used my Ruger # 1 416 Rigby to take both a bull (6X6) and a cow. Both were shot at a lasered 283 yards with a Barnes 300gr. over 108 gr. of R-19 for an average of 2865 fps. Both were one shot immediate kills, the bull behind the should and the cow a spine shot at the top of the should. The rifle may be a bit heavy but the results were excellent. I will use the same combination next year.

Good Luck To All and Good Hunting

Good shooting !! and I love .416 Rigby stories.

Not being exposed to big bores is probably the reason I can't figure out why a .416 Rigby for elk would be interesting.

Maybe it's why I used a .308 Win. on jackrabbits; practice for something else.

To each his own.

Kensco

If it did not interest you, why did you respond?

Mike

Those of us with big bores will hunt with them, no matter what the game, and those without would like to try. I'm going to use my .416 Taylor for deer this fall just for the chance to bloody it. If I ever went on an Elk hunt I may take it too. People around here tell me my .338 WMag is too big... Well I never shot a bear and had it too dead.

The subject interests me, not the gun.

I have the same feeling for muzzle-loaders. I don't get the itch for it. If someone can explain it to me maybe I'd understand.

I thought muzzle-loaders wanted to get back-to-nature or something. Then suddenly they start moving towards in-line rifles, and it appears they just want a real low power rifle that will allow them to hunt muzzle-loader season in front of the rifle hunters.

On the big bores. I don't understand why one would use a .416 Rigby. Maybe it was his favorite gun. Maybe he was getting ready for a big hunt. Why would someone take a pounding (recoil) for no reason? I'm curious. The fact a .416 Rigby can kill elk certainly wasn't in question.

Kensco,

Did you ever drive a ute with a 454 to the shops instead of the 1.6 litre Japanese hatchback.

Did you ever want to fuck......

Mike

My first was a 1968 Plymouth Roadrunner 426 Hemi. It would eat everything you ever drove and spit your shit out by the roadside.

Back then you were still probably still picking shit out of your diaper and eating eat. Stop smelling that finger you keep in your ass and grow up.

You don't own this website you dumb fuck. Your turn, worm.

Kensco,

From your posting:

I don't understand why one would use a .416 Rigby

The ute with the 454 to go shopping, was the best analogy I could come up with.

Hopefully, someone else will answer your I don't understand why one would use a .416 Rigby far better than me.

Your poasting on how old you are ("Back then you were still probably still picking shit out of your diaper") is obviously why you never picked up on Did you ever want to fuck......

Mike

[ 10-20-2002, 16:53: Message edited by: Mike375 ]

TWCracker -- Nice job on the Elk with the .416 Rigby. I have a .416 Rem I am considering taking in the future. This year I will hunt with a .358 STA with a .340 Wby as backup. If you don't mind, give me a headsup on what it was like in Colorado. I will be hunting between Meeker and Craig on Nov 9th. Good shooting.

I like my 404, 416 Rem or 450-400 for elk and deer mostly because they don't do the meat damage that is done with the 270, 06, 300's and they kill the elk quicker, and a quick kill is very important in Idaho, less one likes to go into the bowels of hell to retrieve his elk....

This makes since to me, I have been the other route..but it only works if you can shoot them and the recoil factor must be delt with.

Gentlemen (and I use the term loosely)

I did not mean to start a cussing contest. I nor my hunting practices need to be defended or persecuted. Like Ray stated, I have found that the heavier calibers do less meat damage while producing clean and quick kills. I did not feel any of the recoil while hunting and shoot 20 plus rounds from the bench on any given day. To each his own that is the bases of our great country.

Good Luck and Good Hunting

If I shoot a bear, put a tag on it and took home, what should it matter to anyone else whether I did it with a 30-06 or a .458. Don't ruin a guys great experience of hunting by telling him he used too much gun.

I can argue on TOO little gun for elk but not TOO MUCH gun. I have used my .375 H&H several times and it worked fine. I had a .416 Rigby and was going to try it on elk but a friend talked me out of it first.

Sounds like a good hunt......congratulations.

FN in MT

Gentlemen,

I think it's great to use a big bore on an elk hunt if you want to. Mike Griffin, who posts on these forums, used a .416 Rigby with 300 gr. Barnes-X bullets on plains game at Gras Hunting Ranch in August with great success. I know how well it worked, because I was with him almost every day. If you like it, use it. They are incredibly effective.

Joel Slate
Slate & Associates, LLC
www.slatesafaris.com

7mm Rem Mag Page www.slatesafaris.com/7mm.htm

Gentlemen (sometimes a term I use loosely on this board) ,

I used my .416 Rem Mag on Pigs and spot and stalk Whitetails last December because I wanted to practice a bit more with the gun in preparation for an upcoming hunt in Canada. Meat damage to the Whitetails (4 that week) and pigs was minimal (less than caused by some jokers using ultra high velocity/small dia. rounds) and I had no flinch to speak of by the time I ventured North of the border. Practice . . . practice . . . practice gentlemen. In this day and age where we are lucky to hunt two or three times per year (if that), using a single weapon for everything and being good with it as a result makes perfect sense!

JMHO,

JohnTheGreek

TW,
Sounds like a great hunt. Did the barnes open up? Have any recovered bullet pics?

I carry a 416 rem quite a bit, with 400 sp's at 2400. Nice fun gun. Like Elmer would say "you can eat right up to the hole"

Nice to have a great big o just incase of bear. Would be fine to have a 416 to have a 1 round (ding) discussion with Ursa.

Cheers, and bring on the 416 stories.
jeffe

Kenseco,

Bitchin ride that Road Runner. Mine firsty was a 69 Charger with a 440 Magnum. While certainly not a HEMI it did it's fair share of eating blue ovals and bowties. Would like to see photos of the rabbits shot with .308. bet that make for great practice.

I cry every time I think about that Roadrunner. I have one picture and the window sticker somewhere in storage. (Forest Green with a black hood patch and black vynil roof and interior.)

I only got beat on the street once, coming home from the showroom with it after I'd plunked my money down. I was so exited I shoved the handle hard going from 2nd to 3rd and missed. Felt like I broke my wrist. The guy that tried me must have bragged on that run the rest of his life.

I bought a new set of tires every time I turned around.

If I recall I bought it for about $4,000 and sold it five years later for $1,200 to a kid with Coke bottle thick glasses whose dad told me he intended to put a 2-bbl carburator on it to improve the gas mileage and test drove it around town in 4th gear. It made me sick but my wife was tired of the Hurst on the floor and we had a new baby.

No excuse really. I'd love to just sit in one again. I bought that car because of Richard Petty. I loved just turning the key and listening to it ignite.

Everybody I knew had a 396 or bigger and was ready to run. What a time to be a kid.

Most of our American clients shoot Kudu with the big bores in South Africa. They are about the size of elk.

I have shot Zebra, Blue Wildebeest, Eland and Kudu with a 416 with Woodleigh and GS solids and it does them very well indeed..with no meat damage unless, of course, you eat the hole...I try to break both shoulders...

My last Safari, in fact last month, I only took two guns, my scoped 416 Rem in a Searcy M-98 Mauser and of course my ever present "Sweet Thang" double rifle that I shot two buff with....Also shot half a dozen Impala with the 416..The Northforks, Woodleigh softs and GS solids served me well on everything, encluding 3 Buffalo.