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Below are the OFFICIAL platforms of both political parties in regards to firearms. Pick your poison carfeully. -TONY DNC Firearms We recognize that the right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans’ Second Amendment right to own and use firearms. We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation, but we know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne. We can work together to enact and enforce commonsense laws and improvements – like closing the gun show loophole, improving our background check system, and reinstating the assault weapons ban, so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals. Acting responsibly and with respect for differing views on this issue, we can both protect the constitutional right to bear arms and keep our communities and our children safe. RNC Upholding the Constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms We uphold the right of individual Americans to own firearms, a right which antedated the Constitution and was solemnly confirmed by the Second Amendment. We applaud the Supreme Court’s decision in Heller affirming that right, and we assert the individual responsibility to safely use and store firearms. We call on the next president to appoint judges who will similarly respect the Constitution. Gun ownership is responsible citizenship, enabling Americans to defend themselves, their property, and communities. We call for education in constitutional rights in schools, and we support the option of firearms training in federal programs serving senior citizens and women. We urge immediate action to review the automatic denial of gun ownership to returning members of the Armed Forces who have suffered trauma during service to their country. We condemn frivolous lawsuits against firearms manufacturers, which are transparent attempts to deprive citizens of their rights. We oppose federal licensing of law-abiding gun owners and national gun registration as violations of the Second Amendment. We recognize that gun control only affects and penalizes law-abiding citizens, and that such proposals are ineffective at reducing violent crime. Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer" | ||
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Thanks Tony, I for one appreciate you posting that. | |||
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I sent $200 to the Republican party, I am going to try and send some more money, but I don't know what the cap is. Any ideas? | |||
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You CAN'T contribute DIRECTLY to McCain now (after 8/31), as he is taking public funds (84 million I believe), but the RNC and a bunch of other groups can recieve donations and work to elect him. Cap for McCain directly was $2300 per individual. Most Dems in general, and Obama in particular, have spoken VOLUMES thru their words and actions. They can't erase that with an "official" party platform or statement that directly contradicts these own actions. What's sad is the number of gun owners and sportsmen who will FALL for it. | |||
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Thanks, Tony, for the post. Red C. Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion. | |||
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When the Democrats refer to the "gun show loophole" ... can anyone explain to me what they are referring to? | |||
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The ability (aka right) in many states to buy guns from private sellers without undergoing a background check like you do when you buy from a licensed dealer. _____________________ A successful man is one who earns more money than his wife can spend. | |||
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Gun show loophole is a made up hysteria. Anyone who has ever held an FFL knows that the same laws apply to gun shows as in every gun shop in the USA. Sales between individuals are not regulated in your backroom or at a gun show. I'd also like for someone from the DNC to tell me about the laws that work in Chicago. They lost more Americans in Chicago than in Iraq this summer. Obviously banning handguns and not allowing law-abiding citizens to carry concealed works wonders! Someone please explain about what works in Chicago. A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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I'm just looking to understand this "loophole" business more -- people do ask about it. It is a major part of the democrats' "common sense" proposals. So ... an FFL holder with a shop can sell guns, without a backgroud check, as a person-to-person transfer? That is, the background check is for the customers, but the process can be bypassed for the FFL holder's buddies (or criminals) by moving the sale to the back room? Also ... can anyone tell me the law regarding a private sale between non-FFL holders? For instance, if I sold a rifle to a friend, do you think I have any legal exposure? | |||
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Private sales between non-FFL holders are not regulated by the GCA of 1968. Some states do regulate or restrict sales between individuals. As to liability, if you act as the "straw" purchaser for an individual who is otherwise not qualified to purchase a gun, then you have broken the law. If you transfer a gun to a person whom you know or should have known is unqualified to purchase it or intends to use the gun illegally, then you have broken the law. In terms of civil liability, you could have a successful civil case pressed against you if you acted negligently in transfering a gun to someone whom you might reasonably have known would use the gun to cause harm. | |||
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This and the post by stonecreek are accurate..... However IMO the real reason that gun show sales are being discouraged is the face to face non FFL sales that do not include sales taxes..... Background checks have done nothing to reduce crime.....conceal to carry has!!! A private citizen can sell to another private citizen legally without a background check anytime.....and is not required to collect sales tax! The BATF is far more about taxes than any sort of crime control! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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