When I asked about scout sales ( generally, no numbers ), he said they are not happy with GSI and are looking for another partner. The warranty on Steyr rifles is from Steyr, so they will stand behind their products, worst you will have to wait some time. Do you really have a problem? This would be very unusual for Steyr rifles.

BTW they still hammer their own barrels, the precision is legendary ( for factory rifles, custom rifle barrel makers are another thing, although I would bet some economically priced barrels might be inferior ).

The private ownership I see positive: there are already too much conglomerates the "fusionitis" is spreading, we, the customers, will have less choices ... I hope they stay separate.

In an emegency try:

http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/

Good shooting! Hermann

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New general importer for the U.S.A.

DYNAMIT NOBEL
81 Buckman Road
Closter, New Jersey 07624
Phone: 201-767-1995
E-Mail: mannlicher.us@dynamit-nobel.com

The .376 is not chambered in the scout anymore, but should stay in the regular Steyr line. Makes sense this way.

I don�t know for sure, but I think Steyr is still at the same areal. Of course this may change anytime. Steyr makes a LOT of diesel engines, BMW and other makes. I think this division now belongs to Magna.

I know for sure any Steyr rifle is tested at the factory, Yeah, I know others do it , too. But these are really tested for one group. ( Thats usually enough ).These barrels shoot!

If it was cheaper I would buy a scout immediately! But without that #*�$scope.

Good shooting! Hermann

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Carcano

I understand that the individual who bought Steyr-Mannlicher from the bank who previously owned the company had a relationship with Dynamit-Nobel/RWS, and that coupled with differences in opinions on marketing & etc. was the reason for the change of North American distributors.

The .376 Steyr is like any new medium bore cartridge in that is an up hill climb to compete with the .375 H&H. I like to label the .376 Steyr as a "modernized 9.3X62" that can shoot the .375 bullets and fit into a standard action. In metric terms it is a 9.5X60 (built on the 9.3X64 cartridge case shortened and necked up).

The .376 was first introduced in the Steyr Scout, a decision I thought was brain dead. It is now only offered in the ProHunter.

My rifle has the 20" barrel and is under 40" long. It weighs 9 pounds and change with the scope, sling and ammunition ready to hunt. It yields most of the power of the .375 H&H, but in a very handy package. I was impressed enough with it to buy the rifle that GSI loaned me to evaluate for African Hunter.

So Steyr is not dead, and I am waiting to see where they are going to take the marketing of the .376 Steyr cartridge in Europe and in North America.

It is not enough to build great products, you must also have great marketeers to be a success.

jim dodd

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"if you are to busy to
hunt, you are too busy."

[This message has been edited by HunterJim (edited 02-28-2002).]

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Originally posted by HunterJim:
The .376 was first introduced in the Steyr Scout, a decision I thought was brain dead.

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Well, it is a Jeff Cooper Pet Project and as successful as J.C. pet projects have proven to be... just think of the unique commercial success of the famed Bren Ten pistol :-).

But jokes aside, may I ask you why exactly you would feel that the .376 Steyr chambering would be a bad idea in the Steyr Scout short rifle ?

Sincerely yours,
Carcano
carcano91@hotmail.com

I will be happy to explain my reasons.

But first I should say that I took the Gunsite handgun and rifle courses under Jeff Coooper, and I have done a lot of shooting with the Steyr Scout and other scout rifles. I understand the concept. I have corresponded with Jeff about my comments as well.

The Jeff Cooper Scout rifle is intended to be a general purpose rifle that can be used anywhere in the world on game up to 400Kg. The basic envelope is 1 meter in length and 3 Kg in weight. The .308 Win cartridge does very well in such a package, and ammunition is widely available.

Jeff also wanted a medium bore Scout which he sometimes calls the Dragoon. His Lion Scout was a .350 Remington on a standard action so bullets could be loaded further out to higher ballistics -- a .360 if you will. Steyr wanted a cartridge of at least .375" so it could be used on large game anywhere.

The .376 Steyr Scout combination was not a commercial success.

If the Scout is a general purpose rifle, then the.376 Steyr is a special purpose cartridge. Chambering it in the Steyr Scout makes that rifle special purpose too, which is why I labeled it a brain dead design. I suppose I could have just said that the combination lacks balance.

jim dodd

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"if you are to busy to
hunt, you are too busy."

There is some basic information on John Schaefer's scout rifle web site:

http://www.molonlabe.net/johns/376steyr.htm

Eric Ching has developed some 300 grain handloads with his Steyr Scout .376 Steyr (19" barrel), and those are coming in African Hunter magazine.

So far I have only fired the Hornady 270 grain factory load, but I have some of Gerard's GS 270 gr FN solids that I will be shooting. I will post my results. My rifle is the Steyr ProHunter with 20" barrel.

I have not notice excessive muzzle flash, but then I was not looking for it either.

jim dodd

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"if you are to busy to
hunt, you are too busy."

many thanks for your substantial and well-written reply, which I have enjoyed. I previously had maintained the - apparently mistaken - impression that it were Jeff Cooper himself who would have invented and promoted the .376 (or, metrically, the 9,5 x 60 No. 2 ;-)).

It may be of interest to you that the latest issue of the (IMHO mediocre and mainly IPSC-oriented) German gun magazine "Caliber", # 3/2002, features an article on the Steyr Scout and Steyr Pro Hunter in .376 (pages 6-15), authored by Messrs. Klopsch, Kempa, and Tigges. The article seems interesting, but I bought the magazine only today.

Sincerely,
Carcano