you guys are killin me--please don't stop--bring in some more purists so the attacks can continue--350 yard shot--whatcha thinkin Moosie--should've let him stroll to 500 to give 'im a sportin chance and to shoot 2 of his legs off--now that'd be some shootin--you guys either don't hunt enuff or shoot enuff to know that a 350yd shot is easily doable--hey things can go awry at 50 yards also--at least Moosie followed up the game to end his hunt---

let it suffer--yea right--I think Moosie debunked this one--no one has come to say otherwise--

work out boy--you just trapse all over that mtn and I'll slowly toll along and shoot everything that you scare up---

well got to go and gas up the ATV and get some more film for Moosie--oh yea got to go fix the gamefence also ----chris

WELL I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THIS BUNCH OF NO BRAINERS.YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT THE LANGUAGE WE USE {HUNT TALK PEOPLE},YOU BETTER LOOK BEFORE YOPU LEAP. AS FOR POOR TASTE IN THESE PICS OF MOOSIE'S, IF I WAS ON A HUNTONG SITE I THINK I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE BLOOD MAYBE A TONGUE, HAVE YOU FORGOT THE ANIMAL IS DEAD,GONE ,OUT OF HERE, NEVER TO RETURN. IF SOMEONE DON'T LIKE BLOOD GO TO A ZOO SITE. GET REAL PEOPLE. AS FOR THE GUY TRAPSE ALL OVER THOSE HILLS. WHO CARES, TALK ABOUT MACHO EGOTISTICAL. DUH {BTW I'M MEATHEAD ON HUNT TALK}

[ 12-03-2002, 04:02: Message edited by: MEATHEAD ]

Markus!!
Your sounding like a medow muffin dork...
I am 41, Shot a bull six and half miles in the back country, packed it out half at a time, and enjoyed every bit of it. The temps were hitting around -10 and only ran a small fire once a day, stayed back there for 6 day's. Doe's that make me a tough man..I don't know, I just know that I can out do most any one ceptin for maybe Greenhorn, you should not be much of a problem. When working on the fires in the summer, I can run fs employees into the dirt. Carring 2 gallons of water, all my gear and a big saw, wearing chaps. I can run like this for 12-16 hours a day, all day every day out on a fire. Big deal..I work on an Indian crew..Does this still make me a big man..Not really. I'm glad I am not 22 any more, I have nothing to prove to others, only myself....Well, here is a little spike bull I shot with a bow at 18 yards. Greeny and Moosie have done way better than this...

I was well aware that Moosie was trying to draw people into a fight when I replied. How ever I was not aware that he would bring an entire seperate forum on here.

Elkchsr thats a nice bull for sure you have there.
I have done a little fire fighting in the past not a whole lot though. I stick with the engineering crew mostly. Hows your knees feeling these days Elkchsr?

I didn't "BRING" them here.... Just pointed the way with a few colorfull rememarks

AND you were the one I think to say this is a Family site, WHAT ME and my buddy ELKCHSR do in the hills is "OUR" busness.... Quit asking him about his knees !!!!!

HEY ELKCHSR, NICE friggin ELK man !!! I loved dinner with you when We met. After hearing the Stories and seeing you in person, I'm guessing I couldn't keep up with ya in the hills.... BUT Next year We'll find that out by doing some Cross country hiking, HECK, I'll even try some of your Pine needle soup

Family site? I have seen alot worse on here than my language. And since I seem to be the "Child" here it doesn't burn my eyes.

Moosie what you do is up to you. I don't agree with the way you did things but mostly with the way you advertised it. Unfortunately as you are well aware I'm sure, the majority of the world doesn't hunt. I wouldn't want to find out how alot of the people in your own country would react to you psuedobeastiality pics.

Have some respect for the game or at least don't advertise it so much if you are gonna screw around.

Moosie,
I feel like it's time for you to grow up and be a man instead of a kid, use some since of responsiblity to the young kids that read your junk..It was a good thread until you twisted out and jumped on the porn wagon that gains nothing what so ever...That stuff is childish and just plain uncalled for...

This is a hunting sight, a place for knowledge on what we as hunters want and like to discuss, why ruin that with tripe. I know it's your call and noone can stop you from that stuff, but you can stop it yourself.

Nuff said!!

One big bunch of losers. Read what is wrote and tell me this is what you want your kids to read.

[ 12-05-2002, 06:13: Message edited by: YoungRobinHood ]

Mossie,

Your reputation preceeds you here, I was surfing the internet and got washed ashore here and smelled something terrible and , thats right, you guessed it, stinkin Moosie is on the board here too. LMAO, Jerry Springer, I like it, very fitting!

Mike

Wow, just logged on after a few days. This really flamed up.

I had no problem with Moosie's first shot, only with his filming instead of being ready with rifle after he found blood.

Any experienced hunter knows "two seconds" is twice the time needed to for a wounded animal to be up and running. A lot of "armchair hunters" know that. That everything turned out okay after the fact is nice but irrelevant.

Poor ethics? I don't know, perhaps only a lapse in judgment. But when ethical people make a poor judgment, and it is pointed out to them, they generally acknowledge their mistake and determine not to repeat it.I've never heard of people being criticized for ethical or wise decisions. A violent response to ethical criticism is generally indicative the person has frequently received ethical criticism and can formulate no defense other than to try to put his accusers on the defensive.

Whatever Moosie's case, while it would have been heartening for me to hear him say "I probably should have been ready with rifle after I found blood" or "next time there will be a shooter and a cameraman" (which IMO makes for more interesting footage) he obviously sees nothing unwise about taking that chance and that is his perogative.

If ethics were the same for everyone the word wouldn't exist, and there is no legal guideline to follow here as to any part of Moosie's hunt except for huntdate and area and animal gender. It was his call to make, but when he posted he willingly exposed himself to ethical scrutiny. He knows that because he had also stated that years of posting had shown defense was a waste of time.

As for the simulated (I presume) bestiality, I found it objectionable and vulgar. While I don't expect everyone to define class and decency as I do, I don't accept criticism for simply voicing those objections.

We hunters are a diverse group. I don't expect everyone to behave the same, except for not pointing their gun muzzles at me. I hope for perfect consistency with that.

[ 12-04-2002, 18:43: Message edited by: steve y ]

Moosie,

It looks like you are extreemly successfull, probably more so than I, but that's not the point, or wasn't mine anyway.

I usually like "Evid of sex" with the Animal Before I finish them OFF

Your choice of words does indicate you shoot and then determine if it's legal before you finish them off, after you've already shot them.

Kind of cool while they're still kicking.

HERE is one such picture:

NOT to look like a Retard like MOST that post on the forums.. BUT all you Ethical Shoot by the book guys, HOLIER THEN THOU, Quick to judge someones POST, Ropesucking , Stool pushing, Lama licking Whale humping, Tree huggers on the sites KILL ME !!!

If you cannot see how I got a "moron with rifle and no brains" from the first part and the "punk" from the last, which you already posted before I even seen the thread, it's no wonder you don't see the problems with it others can that surely would love to end all our hunting for good. Though these aren't the only reasons they would, it all adds up to more ammo to shoot back with.

Hell, two years ago I killed my moose at 640 yards with my 416wby and 400's no less, 14.5moa dialed in. Not a difficult shot with a good rest and lots of practice at that range and beyond, matter a fact I never blinked an eye over the 400yrd shot deal at all. "Lobed a shot in after that", I doubt very seriously you did anything other than follow up a most certain first hit as quickly as you could as he began to move, just instinct.

You have never responded to Steve here.

Identifying the sex is required before the first shot, not the finisher. In fact even if he severely wounded the wrong sex an ethical hunter would finish the animal.

Personally, I vidio too, it just gives the wrong impression when the animals down with his head up and you're still shootin film. You follow this with the kickin buck etc. Hunters are the minority and sooner, than later we'll all be grocerie getters cause it's "more humane" know what I mean? It's you and your kids rights too, although they think it's just a "privilage" unless your native, and that ones just another exuse too. Keep this in mind, at least when you post. Remember if there wasn't anyone teaching US from the time we were kids how to be an example, in action, not just in word, we'd be downright dangerous in the field to everyone and there would be no game left by now either. Nuf said, nice bull. Wish they hadn't of done away with our winter hunt, makes it nice knowing you got some time and meat won't spoil, no fightin flies and game gets found easy.

Dang,
some of you fuggers are going to break your legs when you finally decide to get off your soap boxes.
I can't believe you are all so judgemental,

Fellow posters,

I think that what you are seeing here is some good ole' tongue in cheek humor. I bet that once you get to know 'Moosie", he's not all that bad. Probably just misunderstood.

2nd

[ 12-05-2002, 06:12: Message edited by: YoungRobinHood ]

350 yards is not a far shot. So it looks like it is time to lay down the smackdown to those who are incapable of long range shooting. If you can not take down an animal past 500 yards you might want to take up golf of just stay home and watch porn. I have pulled an article that I wrote for a major web site a few years ago. Here it is below.

I would like to take the time to weigh in on the subject of long range shooting, in particular the long range shooting of elk. I have seen many folks bashing long-range shooters and hunters, however I am here to set the record straight!!! Long range shooting of elk is absolutely possible; all you need is the knowledge and the right equipment. The elk I have shot have been at the following ranges. 752 yards, 994 yards, 685 yards 1659 yards and just this year I shot six elk here in New Mexico at the following ranges 4589yards, 3yards(he was in front of my truck and blinded by the headlights) 6987 yards, 16,587 yards and 97,589 yards, now that shot was tuff!!!

Now these ranges seem kind of outlandish, but they are true. My weapon of choice is a custom-made gerbil canon. The canon has an 18-foot barrel and my load of choice is 6 pounds of H-380 and a three and a half ounce gerbil. I have it sighted in and 14 feet high at 100 yards, dead on at 2000 yards and 16 inches low at 10,000 yards. The scope of choice is a Tasco Celestial Observer which is a little long at 8 feet but hell, when your barrel is 18 feet long it just sort of fits right in. The scope did not come with crosshairs so I drew them on with a permanent marker so the rain would not wash off my crosshairs; there is nothing worse than having your cross hairs washed off. I have this canon mounted on the back of my willys jeep, and I use my custom made roll bar as a rest. I have never missed an animal, or a beer can.

I am in contract talks right now with both the Army and a major gun manufacturer to bring this exciting new weapon to market. I am also working on a new video featuring this years kills with the gun, I expect to win an Oscar (no pun intended) for my performance!! The video will retail for $699.96 plus $99.96 for shipping and handling. Look for it soon!!!!

I am also currently working on a new weopon, the .800FHM also know as the .800 Fuzzy Hampster Howitzer. The down range energy on this gun is just unbelievable. I fired this gun of last week here in NM and killed a moose in Finland three days latter.

S. Fecl

I don't like the long range shots. I prefer to kick an elk in the balls fast and most furiously.

[ 12-09-2002, 18:43: Message edited by: Greenhorn ]

Whew, that's long shoot'en but I don't buy off on that BS...

Besides I think a true sportsman will limit his shots to 400 yards if he is a very good shot, at least on elk....Matter of fact the really excellent shot is more likely to wound an animal at those ranges than a poor shoot, who will just miss, the excellent shot will always hit them, but where is the question...

I don't know where the internet digs up these guys. they been watching too much TV....

OK, I see that tounge in cheek doesn't sit well with the masses, I recall my battle and CONCEED to you AWSOME/Ethical hunters !!!!!

I'm glad you can all sit back and judge my hunting abilities by the story I type.

I can type till my fingers hurt... BUt just to say one more thing, I spotted the Blood "AFTER" the elk was dead on the ground. So I wasn't "READY AT GUNPOINT" as Steve said I should be. WOW, Whats the Definition of "IS" anyway Clinton folks the blood that I spoted was just outside some hoof tracks of the elk. I also didn't "LOB" shots over. I've killed more critters then some of you have read about on these boards at those distances.

Like i said, I'm 100% OK with how that story went. If I cared what you guys had to say I'd of made sure I wrote a book explaining each step, Now why don't you guys get back to asking WHAT color "PLAID" you should wear in the fied or What is the best "caliber".. Roumor hast it that the AUGHT -6 is such a gun

The reality is, sometimes people write a bit different then it actually happened, And Apperently when i made a few comments some took it to heart. If I need to clear up that I don't have butt se{} with animals (Unless I'm in Montana and they are sheep) (That ALSO was a joke... MAybe I need to make some disclaimers at the bottom of my posts) then I'll clearly make that coment now I DON'T HAVE SEX WITH ANIMALS ALL that is what they call toung in cheek. It was a response to some coments that I should never have responded too, but like to see you "ETHICAL" UBB HUNTERS come unglued

AM I a successful hunter, DAM STRAIGHT !!
AM I Cocky.... DAM STRAIGHT !!
Am I serious..... 3% of the time on these UBB's, MAybe 5 if there is a death in the family, But it has to be close family, Or then it hovers around 4-4.5%
AM I a ethical hunter, Ethics, Well, That is to each their own, Maybe I can bring up Hound huting ? Hunting Deer with DOGS ? The ungodly amount of wounded/loss game with bows ? 4-wheelers ? Game ranches....? HELL I can bring up topics all day that people will dissagree on. Ethics.... YEP, just be carefull what you type on the net though

HEY Feclnogn,

quote:

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I fired this gun of last week here in NM and killed a moose in Finland three days latter.

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You're an Unethical FUQ~wad DID you have a finland tag ? I think it's a draw unit over there, I here unit 73 is a good one though ~~

PS, way to bash a hunter in support of telling him how the huners are a minority, yep.... WAY to teach lessons, I'm guessing y'all YELL at your kids to STOP YELLING IN TH EHOUSE HAHA !!! THANX for the lessons !!!!

HEY Greeny... HOW hard was it to follow Fatprongs Blood trail in the last photo It had a bit more blood then mine.. I hear you guys used NINJA Swords and flew through the air. Kind of a KUNG FOO HIIIIIII YAH !!!!

I am not worthy.......

-Grasshopper

OK.. back to back 3 posts

HY Atkinson, WHAt if I saw an Elk at 401 yards.. Am I screwed ? Or just an "ENETHICAL" hunter ?!?!?

It was a hard one to track. Especially while holding his head while Fat Prongs was kicking it in the balls.

Is kicking an elk in the balls unethical? Maybe I shouldn't mention it here.

I'm going to learn some about the hydrosplatic kills on another serious topic.

Better yet.. I'm going to PISS IN THE WIND some now that the season is over. For god's sake why would anyone go scouting this time of the year? Time is much better spent arguing about what caliber/bullet is good for the next hunting season.

YAH.. what the hell as I thinking going scouting and making 4 trips to Montana just to shoot this bull this year...



MAYBE I should have spent more time on these HUNTING boards talking about what an ETHICAl Hunter I am !!! THEN I could be smelling like this :

Ray,

I conceede this much, 400 yards offhand is indeed a VERY difficult shot to repeat with 100% certainty, even on an elk size animal. I would rather a much longer shot and have a very solid rest any day. With wind permiting, at 700 yards I can hold shots under 1 moa easy with the 416 and many times even below 1/2 moa. A LRF is needed without doubt. Lots of practice at range will prove their capabilities can be extended beyond the limits most just accept as their max. If you never practice at it, you'll never know how good you can be at it, or anyone else.

Speaking of ETHICAL HUNTING... how about FISHING ?!?!?!

Here is me with my 30 win mag chasing CARP. I know it's not a "GAME" fish... but is it still ethical to shoot one at 68 yards with this type of weapon ?



ALSO, this picture was taken in the DARk.. I'm guessing that I must have made a NIGHT shot on this hog !!!



HERE is an UNETHICAL CHOKE hold I'm makeing on a New Zealand CHAMOIS !!! HELL, TAKE me to the Stretchers PEOPLE !!!!



MAYBe a bad Idea to "SIT" on a moose after "HARVESTING" it ?!?!?! HELL.... KEEP these Unethical pics of the net.... !!



HECk, I have an Achive of them... MAybe I should Delete them ASAP !!! GREENy heeeeellllp !!!!!!

OK Moosie this is what you have to do:

I will never shoot at any game animal over 300 yds(preferrably 100 yds)--yep that means 301 is way out of bounds--make sure you have sateliite conformed coordinates of you and the game before touching off a round, this will insure the range is within specs-please cont. to practice as you do at longer ranges, this will help you also to confirm the range is within the parameters--

Do not bring camera or vid camera into the field to snap a pic or film, leave it in the truck--do it at home or when the animal is in the truck---these make for more interesting photos and vids anyway---

When tracking have firearm in the attack position, so as not to waste more than a nano-second before firing--you will need to practice on "safety off and trigger pulling procedures" to get down to the nano-second required, so the game will not suffer--

EVID of sex--your doomed--if you don't know about the sexes yet or you haven't figured out if you've had sex with any creature on our planet may I suggest any eighth grade book on the matter to set you straight....I hope you can rise to the occassion...

Ethics--well bud--this is where you leave the mountain and get the Buckmasters TV game--this way you will never have to hunt again in the field and can never be accused of dipatching an animal 2.4 seconds after vid camera is dropped or for taking rather outrageous shots or having to post any more pics of game animals or post on the internet--except for Jackie Bushmans web site--you will a be a much better man---

please let me know if I can be of any more help..

Friends Unethically Carelessly Killing Elk Daily

....chris

Atkinson :

quote:

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Besides I think a true sportsman will limit his shots to 400 yards if he is a very good shot, at least on elk....

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SO tell me what a true Sportsman is then... I would really enjoy hearing that Especially after the quote above... And who defined what a true Sportsman was you?

Why only elk? Why not deer? A elk is the size of a tank and if you miss that at 500 yards you shouldnt be hunting. where as a deer is only half that size.
Next your going to tell us that an elk is the only animal that should be hunted by true Sportsman. but in all honesty they are like shooting cows in a pasture(in AZ)... Couse deer hunting is much harder than any elk hunting I have ever done, which includes washington, Co AZ Oregon and a few other places.

BTW a couse deer is about a 1/4 size of an elk.

Long range shots are cake and people who shoot alot dont consider anything under 500 yards a long range shot.

What about guys who take spine shots only are they true sportsman. a spine shot is about a 2" area.....

Give em hell Oscar...

Delw

[ 12-05-2002, 06:41: Message edited by: Delw ]

Wow a guy goes hunting and misses out on all the fun.

I took a long shot when I got married 22 years ago. So I guess I was unethical then. LMAO

If ya really notice I jumped in before the link was posted at MOoSiEs

Hey I got's me some questions I want an answers to, since all the knowledge seems to flow freely around here. What kind of pajamas should I were while elk hunting? Do y'all recommend the kind with feet in them that zip to the neck or not? Fleece, silk or poly pro? How about camp slippers? Silk or satin? Also what kind of hairspray should I use so my hair stays in place for my success photos? Oh and speaking of success photos should my hat match my coat or my pants? Being very fashion conscience this really concerns me. It almost concerns me as much as hydrospaztic shock, wool diapers (or was that bibs?) and spensive buwwets.

Bigsky.. Forget the Plaid shirts and the wool undies.. YOU need HATS !! HATS is the key to hunting success !!!

Here is my favorite one the "UTTER" hat :



THE HOMEY "G" orange hat :



the Standard Camo hat with face guard tucked away :



Here is my warm "EAR KEEPER" :



MY site hat "HuntTalk.com " hat.



then there is the "COALITION" hat...

Thanks Moosie..
I did have a great chat with you also..
Markus...My knees are doing very well. I was practicing with a 105 lb pack to get ready for the test, five miles, fifteen minute miles. I should be hitting the pack test in 35 minutes this year..It's a man thing..LOL..
And thems some awsome nut kicking photos Greeny...LMAO...
http://www.jacksonholewyoming.net/Temp/elkchsrdeer.jpg
Here is the little guy I shot this year...Double lunger at 800 yards..LMAO..
read the story on Moosies board in congrats deer...
http://www.jacksonholewyoming.net/Temp/elkchsrelk.jpg
Heres the little guy I carried out half at a time six and a half miles because he was hurt...Now he sits in cold storage awaiting to be warmed again..LOL...

[ 12-05-2002, 08:12: Message edited by: ELKCHSR ]

MAN.. I found some more ....

The "LUCKY LONG"



My NZ hat that my buddy KIWI sent me !!!



MY Idaho ELK hat :



AND then ther is the friend that wears his "RESIVOIR" tip brown hat when you forget yours /.... HEHEHE



YEP..... FORGET the PJ's bud, It's ALL in the hats !!!!!!!!!!

[ 12-05-2002, 08:14: Message edited by: Moosie ]

Is Moosie Gone?

Seems like the kids from hunttalk are bored at their site. Now I know why it supposely running smooth there now. They posts their garbage on other sites. If I was Saad I'd nuke this thread & ban them all. BTW 4 maybe more of those moosie pics are behind a fence,see if you can guess which ones.One ethical hunter who believes in fair chase thats for sure. Oh & nice cub.

Turdslayer... YOU suck.

MOOSIE FOR PRESIDENT!!

Moosie but I did ask about hats. It appears that the hat doesn't need to match anything. This goes against all fashion rules and must be considered an unthical fashion statement. I mean what would the other hunters and my friends at Starbucks think if I showed up without a matching hat and pants? Oh perish the thought. Now back to the jammies, should I try and get a premium pair that have silk on the outside with a fleece core, or fleece on the outside with a silk core? Do they only come in that simply awful plaid or is there something with stripes or flowers available? I think a flower pattern would be best as it would really brighten up the camp on those cold snowey days. Next topic: What kind of soap do you use so your skin doesn't get all chappy while hunting? I can't believe how easily all these very important informational questions just come to me. I'm just tingling all over.