Nilgia in TX...Bullet??

18 May 2011, 04:26

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Now, Gato, there you go messing up these boys' pet narrative. The size of one of their balls is entirely dependent on how big a gun they shoot, and the size of the other of their balls is dependant on how "tough" their favorite big, ugly animal is to kill with their big gun. Of course, if you don't have a really big gun, you can substitute a gun with a really big magazine in order to keep your second ball properly inflated.

If you go spreadin' it around that these critters can be laid dead with a common old .30 caliber bullet, then you've absolutely ruined the mystique they've fabricated and may cause their balls to shrink up to the size of a dried goober.

You may be onto something about poor shots on running game making the animal seem tough. My first gemsbok was shot running, and I was able to put several shots into him "around the edges" with a .338. My embarassment at such poor shooting with such a relatively powerful gun prompted me to proclaim that gemsbok must "damn tough". Of course, shooting them in the foreleg, hindquarters, and eventually the paunch, is an excellent way to prove how "tough" they are. The next day my son dropped his (larger) gemsbock with a single shot from a .30-06. So much for "toughness".

As I said in an earlier post, the last nilgai I saw taken was with a .25-06 and factory Corelocts (no idea the weight). It's not the gun I would have picked, but niether is my .375 H&H Improved or my .416 Remington. I don't own a .35 Whelen, but if I did, I'd regard it as a better choice for nilgai as either a .25-06 or a .416 Remington. Another advantage in shooting something like a .35 Whelen instead of a .416 is that you have the advantage of not having to drag testicals the size of grapefruit around in your pants while you hunt.

Stone,
I am truly shocked at how rude you are. I would expect this in the political forum but in a discussion over bullets for game you have NO experience with...really. A gentlemen you are not sir. I'd ask you to tell us of the nilgai hunt you where on but I feel as though you have never hunted them.

Perry
Whassamatter? Can't stand having a little fun poked your way? As thick-skinned as the game you hunt may be, your skin must be pretty thin. I apologize that I didn't realize you were such a sensitive guy.

Your narcissism has greatly effected your sense of humor if you think that is "poking fun". I had a good cry and am now ok. Thanks for the apology.
Let me know when you stop talking out of your ass and actually hunt one of these animals

Perry

18 May 2011, 05:13

tiggertate

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Last time down there in March.

Perry

Perry, we don't like snakes at my South Texas lease either but we don't go killing hatchlings in the nest. Let 'em grow up a little next time!

You have no idea how close to the truth you are. They were..ah.."hugging" when I shot them.

Perry

Too much information!!

18 May 2011, 20:39

Stonecreek

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I had a good cry and am now ok. Thanks for the apology.
Perry

You're welcome. I promise to be gentler next time.

19 May 2011, 06:39

justanotherhunter

My .02(and truly is worth about as much, having never hunted Nilgai) is about elk: I have shot several from tender calves to large bodied cows( not too sure on the live weight but as I butcher them myself I got 350+ lbs of boneless meat) and all of them have been shot with a 150 gr. bullet from wal-mart out of a .270 winchester. and all of them have been 1 shot deads, sometimes a flop on the spot other times a 200-300 yard recovery. I believe that bullet placement is the primary factor here. What can I say? poor kid buys what he can afford, so maybe I would love to run down to south texas and hunt a blue bull, but it would probably be with that same setup....shoot what you got, but shoot it well and the animals tend to die easily.

19 May 2011, 06:54

Greg R

I've shot a lot of nilgai and I guided a whole bunch of nilgai hunts when I got started. I have seen far more bulls lost with Sierras and other standard cup-and-core designs than I've seen killed. I would not recommend that bullet at all. Were I to use my Whelen, I would use Federal's 225-grain Bear Claw load, an A-Frame, or a TSX. Elk, gemsok, and wildebeest do not have the same thick shield or tenacity as a bull nilgai.

19 May 2011, 16:27

Doug Pisano

Thanks Greg....I will use the Whelen. I have a large quantity of Nosler Partitions in 225gr that shoot really well. I'm kinda planning to use them if I can. I may pick up some TSX to try as well.

Happily, This thread has gone on much longer than I expected and am the better for it!

Thanks All!

19 May 2011, 22:10

DC Roxby

The bullet is one of the most important, and least expensive, pieces of hunting equipment a hunter uses. It makes no sense whatsoever to skimp here, especially if you are paying several thousand dollars for an outfitted hunt. I use premium bullets on everything, hogs, elk, whatever. It's just common sense.

20 May 2011, 00:02

Doug Pisano

Thanks DC. I agree!

20 May 2011, 06:39

Greg R

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Originally posted by Doug Pisano:
Thanks Greg....I will use the Whelen. I have a large quantity of Nosler Partitions in 225gr that shoot really well. I'm kinda planning to use them if I can. I may pick up some TSX to try as well.

Happily, This thread has gone on much longer than I expected and am the better for it!

Thanks All!

Those Partitions will do the trick, too. Good luck on your hunt.

21 May 2011, 10:46

drewhenrytnt

Might check with Michael458 and see if they are making a NonCon in .358cal. Should be absolutely devastating.

21 May 2011, 18:22

Doug Pisano

Thanks Drew...can I ask what a NonCon is????

22 May 2011, 09:27

drewhenrytnt

Non-Conventional expanding bullet. Totally awesome. They are homogenous design. All brass with a special engineered cavity in the nose. The nose shears into 3-6 petals that travel radially and the base then acts like a solid.