What in the hell is wrong with the NRA giving a board member a hunt on one of it's properties anyway? I don't think an NRA executive position pays, so why not throw the guys a bone?
Like it or not, it's the perks that attract the best talent and if the NRA can use a prescribed number of hunts at the WC to retain quality board members let 'em.

OW-

Yes, your first paragraph was addressed to someone in particular. Your 2nd graf rambled on in general terms and went nowhere -- to no one in particular. It APPEARED you wanted to try and address something from an earlier posting, in fact.

If YOU want to address something in particular to an individual, there is such a thing as the PM system. Put in on the web and it's there for all to see.

By the way, don't be concerned about my typo. But if you want, I'll get into serious language usage problems that seem to plague most of your postings.

BT,

Don't make ASSumptions. You're starting to sound like Stonecreek.

My entire message was addressed to Craig and I did address something from his post -- his comment about the perks, which you ASSumed was an expanation to you.

And...I care less if you read my messages to others; your problem was ASSuming it was directed TO you.

And I'm not concerned about your "typo." Hell, it's up to you if you don't mind appearing ignorant. Go for it. -TONY

P.S.-- Don't want you to get further confused; this entire message -- not just the first paragraph -- is meant for you.

Ahhhh...your true colors have surfaced, OW. Surprise, surprise...

You know, OW, you've called Ballew a class act. I've come to realize that you, too, are quite a clASS act. (Did I make another typo???)

There ya go. Now maybe you'll crawl back in your hole or get a life. -TONY

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Originally posted by Outdoor Writer:
HC, It's actually DOS EQUIS, which is translated as TWO XXs. It's also brewed by Modelo, which is partially owned by Anheuser-Busch. They once had a XXX beer known as Tres Equis. It had a fuller flavor than Dos Equis. ...

Hey Tony, Wellllllll, goooood goooosh, I can't even spell "XX" correctly!!! Talk about PITIFUL!

Obviously I'm not fluent in the Spanish lingo, but I really thought I knew Does meant " 2 " there. I can't even blame the Pabst Blue Ribbon cause I've not had any in a long time.

Looks like the trend in the thread is to "blame" you, the General or the NRA for stuff, so I'll jump on the bandwagon and say it was a Trifecta of all of those parties that made me spell "XX" incorrectly.

Come to think of it, I've not seen any Black Panthers lately, so I "mights-well"(might as well, for the YANKEES) blame ya'll for that too.
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Can't get the Brew and Bikinis off my mind!

You're not so lucky, OW. As long as there are wrongs, I am going to work to make them right.

BT,

Right. Get in touch with your congress critters and even the Pope. Tell the latter I said, "hi." Haven't seen him since he stopped over for lunch. -TONY

P.S. - Can you tell I'm really concerned? Please don't tell my mother.

HC,

Does is female deer; DOS is two in Espanol. Now you've really got my gander up. Can't teach you southerners anything. -TONY

I love a good pissing contest!

Does anyone else notice that just about every post on here that has a comment about someone else's spelling has a spelling error in it also?

Okay, folks, back to the basics.

I started all of this by expressing my opinion (accurate or not) that the Whittington Center was operated in a manner that disproportionately benefits certain people.

That expression of opinion earned me a stearn rebuke, the label of idiot, errant assumptions about my income and character, and a place on the Executive Director's "no hunting" list. Certainly if there is such a thing as a "no hunting" list, then there must likewise be a "hunting" list, one would think, which tends to validate my original assertion.

I brought to light some information from public records that revealed that the Whittington Treasurer is paid a salary of some one-half million dollars, the E.D. (who placed me on the "no hunting" list) is paid some $120,000 or so, and that there are a number of land assets belonging to the Whittington Center that are not publicly recognized as part of that holding.

The E.D. declared that there is no such thing as a February elk season, yet Mr. Boddington clearly states that he hunted there in February. He further says that there are two kinds of hunts: Draw and paid fundraising hunts. Since the Whittington Center is a non-profit, tax-exempt entity, it is reasonble (and everyone's business) as to which of those two types of hunts Mr. Boddington went on, and it is reasonable to ask, if it was not a draw hunt, how much he paid for the privilege in order to ally latent suspicions that some people are treated differently from others by the Whittington management.

It is puzzling why the E.D. chose to deny the existence of February hunts, but it is even more puzzling why anyone would take offence at the asking of the price of a hunt on the facility when its business is supposed to be open to public inspection. Given the circumstances and the failure of Whittington management to be forthcoming, is it any wonder that many people might get the impression that the Whittington Center treats some people differently from others based on the positions that people of "privilege" might hold?

Please, OW, help dispell rather than feed these dark suspicions!

So how is the elk hunting at the Whittington Center?

This thread reminds me of the old hockey joke:

"I went to a boxing match last night and a hockey game broke out"

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What in the hell is wrong with the NRA giving a board member a hunt on one of it's properties anyway? I don't think an NRA executive position pays, so why not throw the guys a bone?

Nothing, as long as it is disclosed to the membership of the organization. Something smells rotten here. Since we have so many "connected" members here what the hell's wrong with telling the truth about how Whittington Center operates their hunts? Inquiring minds (and dues paying members) want to know.

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Originally posted by Outdoor Writer:
HC,

Does is female deer; DOS is two in Espanol. Now you've really got my gander up. Can't teach you southerners anything. -TONY

Specialllly speilliiin or reeadiin!!!

And we are not "southerners"

, we are "Southerners" !!

Stonecreek,

From an earlier message here:

Now, here's a suggestion: Pool all these pressing questions together and call 505-445-3615. When the gal answers, ask for Mike Ballew. He'll no doubt answer the questions with all the respect they deserve, and if he doesn't have the answer, he'll likely tell you where to go.

Then whoever makes the call(s) can report the answers here to the rest of the "need to know" folks. Good luck. -TONY

Well, OW, you're the guy who took it upon yourself to explain to all of us doubters just how wrong our suspicions about the Whittington Center are (and assault our characters for the opinions we may have formed -- perhaps mistakenly). Now you're going to punt? And Boddington's going to punt? You realize that your non-responsiveness simply reinforces the assumption that the Whittington center plays an insiders game, don't you? You've made it incumbent upon yourself to bring us facts that indicate we are mistaken, or otherwise admit that there is some validity to our negative assumptions.

You got "facts" in regards to the hunting. You didn't like them either. So any other "facts" are YOUR problem to feret out. I could care less at this point what you believe or don't believe. It wasn't me that spouted off with the erroneous assumptions, remember?

And I certainly don't give a damn about the NRA treasurer or any of the land holdings.

The WC # is 505-445-3615. -TONY

OW wrote:

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You got "facts" in regards to the hunting.

So about the voracious denial of the February hunt that actually DID HAPPEN: does that fall into the massive cache of "facts" also?????

Bobby: It's clear that OW now wants to extricate himself from defending the Whittington management practices. It's obvious that he either has no information that would support his view of the Whittington center's management, or that he has information that he would prefer not to make public. Clearly being not a very bright or politic fellow, it is more than likely he's been told by wiser people "within the fold" to put a cork in it since his comments have only served to stir greater suspicions about Whittington. Don't you know that Ballew blew a fuse when OW foolishly reprinted his careless and inaccurate comments on a public forum!

I'll see if I can post a link to the Whittington Center's most recent IRS filing (which their half-million dollar Treasurer filed after the maximum extension of time, making it "old" news). That way people can make their own judgements about its finances and assets it holds that are not generally know by the public.

Unfortunately, the IRS filing has no information to indicate whether certain priveleged persons have special access, so until someone with that information is willing to step forward and candidly explain their policies, I'm afraid that many of us will be inclined to believe that not all of us are treated equally.

Stonecreek wrote:

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Don't you know that Ballew blew a fuse when OW foolishly reprinted his careless and inaccurate comments on a public forum!

There's little wonder who Ballew was calling "idiot" after that debacle...