jrslate,
Yep, hunting on the coast sucks really bad. But almost every time I hunt over there I'm dumb enough to shoot something. There are alot of elk over there.

Seafire/Joel,
Agreed on this season probably having an overall low success rate. I saw 2 and heard of only 4 others taken over the week. Be interesting to see what the ODFW has for stats. Except for one area, all the sign we saw was 5-6 critters or less and when we did see cows, it was only 1-3. They were holed up somewhere...
Sako

Sako:

I am sure down in near Crater Lake they were "sunnying" themselves in the Park. Laughing at all of we, soaking wet, frustrated, ice covered hunters.

But that is why they call it hunting. But a good thing was for once I did not run into any California hunters with their 400 Weatherby Mag, shooting at anything that farted.

I did see an environmentalist from Ashland out hiking with his new Hummer H 2 parked along side the forest service road.

Yeah it was tempting....................., but I left it alone.

Cheers and good shooting
seafire

Gentlemen,

I hunted the Upper Deschutes unit over between Wickiup Reservoir and Gilchrist...I got on some fresh sign, but never caught up to them. Had to get back to work and didn't get a chance to hunt in much of the snow.

A former co-worker of mine and his buddies got 2 nice bulls (5pt.) about 3 miles into the Three Sisters Wilderness area, so they had a bit of a pack. They were able to track them in the snow and had some success.

Maybe next year..!!

Seafire,
We didn't run into the numbers of other hunters that I expected and none with "south of the border tags". Years back, we (all 6 of us) had to severely "counsel" a couple of outta-staters" for leaving all their garbage in the woods (our back yard) during rifle elk season. They left.
Know what you mean about the greater numbers of elk sunning at CL.... Or around the Lost Creek park area.
Sako

Seafire,
Was outta here and off on my travels before I read your last post. How'd ya do?

No luck with the elk this year on my end, but lotsa good times with friends/family as usual. And 7 days of good workouts! Could you believe the change in weather from opening day and then 24 hours later!!!! Was glad to see the moisture for quiet stalking.
Didn't see much sign in the snow up on the R/U divide, so we concentrated on the mid to lower elevations west of 62. We were in them, but saw nothing with horns...... and didn't hear of that many taken over the week. There's always next year and the 200M hunt. Got a "P-point", so here's hoping for the best on scoring that tag.
Sako

I am in Toledo right now, and anyone who can consistently shoot a deer or elk in this country is some kind of hunter. Man, it is thick! And raining all the time!

Sako/Seafire et al....

Hope this doesn't ruin you day, but I have decided to start hunting Oregon, specifically the Cascade Elk Season while gaining points for Oregon draw zones. I was going to ask this forum for some information but from your comments it would be a waste of time.

I am truly dissapointed with some of the biased attitudes displayed here.

JB:

I think I speak for most of the Oregon guys on this forum.
When we make fun of some of our Neighbors to the south, we don't mean it as a blanket statement.

California is full of some very fine people. Just seems we get over unindated with those from San Fran or LA that just seem to think everyone in Oregon is a hick with a third grade education who lives in a house trailer. We wish they would leave their pompous attitudes at the state line. I am sure you get the same attitudes from them when they pass thru Redding and Red Bluff.

I am sure you are a hunter and a fisherman who loves and respects the environment. There is always room for anyone from California, who does not come into town with his condescending attitudes.

A lot of us locals do the same laugh at people out of Portland and Eugene and Salem, or Ashland. But not everyone that lives there is a 'know it all' tree hugger.

I invite you to come on up and hunt in Oregon, and in fact wish you all the best of luck for success if you do. In fact, I will even extend the offer that I would be more than happy to serve as your hunting partner, if you desire one of us local yocals. It would be my pleasure.

Cheers and good shooting
seafire

Seafire, thank you for your positive response. I guess I was a bit sensitive about the California comments as I had just finished reading a few posts on the Alaska Forum, I was beginning to feel like public enemy #1 by association

I really do appreciate your response. I hunted the bow season in Idaho this year, and because of the weather, the drive was a real hassle. I have decided to look a little closer to home for stateside hunting. I have a friend who had a cattle ranch in the Silverlake District and was planning on hunting there, but his family sold the ranch and left the area.

I recall fishing around Frenchglen 45 years ago (ugh!) and recall some huge mule deer. I also recall (same time frame) elk around the Steens Mountains. Now that I have the time, there is so much country to explore. I suspect most of this area is privately owned with access a problem.

On a brighter note, I will be hunting ducks and geese Wednesday in the Shasta Valley below Klamath. Not the best area in the world, but gets very little pressure and is only an hour away.

JB,
I agree with what Seafire said in the above post and, in retrospect, have seen more "in-state" knuckleheads than out of state folks. Apologies if my post was offensive.
Now, if we can just get Seafire to quit busting on the Ashland folk!
Sako

Those knuckle heads from Portland Kill me they are the worse I think. Shoot up the county they are in but there are alot the locals who aren't even better. Out of state hunters are usually pretty decent folks never had any run ins with any it has been the locals. Especially when you hunt the coast those people are the rudest comments like flatlander go back to the east side this is our hunting area comments like that and far as I'm concerned they can keep it I hunted there once and that is the last time I will hunt over there I swear I shrunk an inch it rained everyday and it snowed it really sucked spent half my time on my ass slipping and sliding down the hill sides. You have to be half dumb to hunt over there anyhow. Anymore as far west I hunt is when I hunt the High Cascade Elk hunt which we hunt around Timothy lake and that area in the Santiam unit the farthest I go east to East Northside when I'm lucky enough to draw a Elk tag for that unit. For Deer hunting I hunt Grizzly unit around my home town of Madras.

Sako:

ARE you from Assland? I have a good friend that lives down there.

I know Nosler bullets actually started in Ashland. I even know a gentleman that grew up with Bob Nosler and it is funny to hear some of the stories he tells about them growing up. Like use to go down to the dump and shoot rats, with a 7 Mag! The gentleman I know has had a stroke, so he talks slow. Sucks getting old.

NOT all people in Ashland are bad, just the ones who aren't republicans.

Of course I can speak too loud living in Josephine County, not much to brag about around here in the "people with class" department, lol.

Funny tho, after moving here from Minnesota, one thing I observed about those who hate Califormians so much, are former California residents. They all seem to act like they were the last "good one" across the state line and every one after them is an asshole.

Ah it takes all types to make the world go round.

Cheers and good shooting
seafire

The folks in Bend were happy when they showed up about 15 years ago or so Houses that normally sold for 100 thousand or so these crazy californians were paying twice that so the people in bend sold there houses and packed up and left bend to the californians and relocated else where.

Seafire,
Yeah, don't tell anyone, though!....

I grew up out off hwy 66 beyond Emigrant Lake. Went to school in Ashland up through "SOSC".
Dad's just outside Shady Cove and Mom's in living Portland. Heck, I don't even go to Ashland when I come home as it has changed sooooooooooooo much! You know the deal. Two friends still live in Ashland, the rest on the other end of the valley. Had some great times growing up there in the 70's/80's, though.
Sako

Sako,
I went to Crater and SOSC (southern oregon socialist commune). Glad to be outta that hippy hole. Just up the hill from your old place is becoming the place to bag yourself a big boy bull. I spend alot of time up on the river from you dads. Man I bet it was nice to be home.

JB,
Redding isn't California its part of "The Great State of Jefferson." That makes you OK with us.

Ah yes, the "Great State of Jefferson" Have to admit I had forgotten that. The sign announcing that is just north of Montague.

We move into areas that fit our comfort zone. Only problem is the reasons we move away seem to follow sooner or later and bring their lousy habits with them.

A few weeks back Feliz Concolour was lurking around a Redding school. After the DFG terminated the problem, some recent emigrant from the big city complained that the cat should have "just been removed".

We have "three strikes your out" laws, how about three stupid statements and you are sent back to the hole you came from