i"m working on a 180 gr load for the .308, and i"m gonna get some partitions. Does anyone here know the difference between Nosler Partitions and Nosler Partition Protected Point?
Nosler"s site does"nt show them, and i saw them on another site, but the regular Partition Spitzer looked the same as the Protected Point.
Anybody used/seen the Protected Point?
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The regular Nosler Partition bullet is a soft point with a lead tip. In the protected point, the metal jacket extends all the way to the tip. I have used both, but I can't tell you much in the way of differences in performance.

ok, thanks for the info. Must have been a mistake on the site i saw them on, as they both looked like spitzers. I imagine the full length jacket is supposed to be more accurate and less prone to damage in the mag and so on.
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The protected point prevents tip deformation,but it does so at the expense of a lower ballistic co-efficient.

I think the protected point was designed to keep overall length short enough to fit in .300 Win Mags factory OAL while keeping enough neck tension for the .300s short neck plus to stop point battering in the magazine during magnum recoil. The PP is not as aerodynamic as the regular partition, so slows down a bit faster at longer ranges. I don't think there is any difference in terminal performace between the two, but have never used the PP version.

-Lou

Protected points have a small flat point and are designed for 300 Win. mag. since the spitzers have to be seated too much to keep the suggested COL. The jacket extends almost all the way to the tip, except the last millimeter

The Nosler PP look like Rem Core Loks or Speer Grand Slams.

They do not have the accoracy out of my 06 as the NP spitzer

I personally love Nosler bullet's on game, but I have found the 180 Partition in the .308 to be to hard, or deeply penetrating for deer and small bears. The 165 is a far more versitile bullet weight in the '08.

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Originally posted by 308Sako:
I personally love Nosler bullet's on game, but I have found the 180 Partition in the .308 to be to hard, or deeply penetrating for deer and small bears. The 165 is a far more versitile bullet weight in the '08.

I had someone telling me recently that I should be using 180's in my 30-06 "because they penetrate better" than 150's or 165's...

How can something "penetrate better"
if the lighter bullets invariably exit?

Frankly I've never in 20-odd years of shooting whitetails (as a reasonable guess I'd have to say 80+ deer) with a 30-06 I have only once seen a 165gr Solid-base/Ballistic tip fail to exit a whitetail

I have seen three (or was it four?) 150gr BT's fail to exit, but I don't load 150's anymore, according to both Noslers manuals #'s 3 through 5 AND my chronograph the 165's can be loaded slightly faster so I don't see any point to loading 150's in the 30-06...

Yes, the 180gr Noslers have thicker jackets
and don't expand as reliably on smaller animals, particularly if the bullet encounters no bones...

I have actually seen one 180gr BT that didn't start to expand until it was passing through the offside shoulder (after passing through the close side shoulder) that was the ONLY time I shot a Nosler 180gr at a whitetail

I can't imagine that 180gr Partitions are designed any differently...

And the box of protected points I have look like someone simply shaved off the exposed lead tip... they look exactly like the regular 180gr partitions they are just missing the exposed lead point.

AllanD