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Gents,

Those who make the choices, are having a meeting about the future introduction of possibly 2 subspecies of wolves in Colorado, on Jan 13-14.

This is pressure, emails, petitions and politics from OUTSIDE Colorado moving this forward.

Help us out, send an email stating you choose option 2, NO introduction/re-introduction of any wolf species in CO to:

dnr_cpwcommission@state.co.us

We all saw what happened in ID, MT and WY, and the increasing problems everywhere else. Lets make our voices heard this time!

Supposedly over 3000 emails sent PRO option 1 (introduction of non-native wolves) and I don't doubt that one bit. Post on your other boards, your social media, your client lists whatever.


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Can you post a reference or source for additional information? It'd be nice to get educated on this movement before spouting off. Smiler


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Wolf Resolution considered by Parks and Wildlife Commission at January meeting

DENVER - In November 2015, the Parks and Wildlife Commission (PWC) returned to the discussion of wolves with a draft resolution to oppose the active introduction or reintroduction of wolves into Colorado. The discussion is slated to continue at 4 p.m., Wednesday, Jan. 13, at the Commission’s regularly scheduled meeting in Denver.

More than ten years ago, the PWC approved a plan entitled, Findings and Recommendations for Managing Wolves that Migrate into Colorado. The plan, a collaborative result from the Colorado Wolf Management Working Group, was in response to the reintroduction of gray wolves by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS) into their historic habitat, the northern Rocky Mountains.

Interest in wolves remains high in Colorado and the proposed resolution has generated considerable public discussion and concern. Many are asking, “Why is this draft resolution in front of the Commission now? Isn’t this an ‘anti-wolf’ draft resolution?”

These questions and more are reconciled by a closer look at the draft resolution itself and the issues surrounding federal wolf recovery programs across the western United States. In considering these and others, it is important to note that the draft resolution does not pass judgment on the value of wolves as future members of the state’s fauna. Rather, it addresses the question of which wolves should eventually live in Colorado, and how they will get to the state.

Colorado Parks and Wildlife (CPW) takes a proactive approach by presenting this draft resolution to the Commission well in advance of anticipated federal rulings with facts based upon ecological principles.

Learn more about the facts at http://cpw.state.co.us/Wolves

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CPW is an enterprise agency, relying primarily on license sales, state parks fees and registration fees to support its operations, including: 42 state parks and more than 350 wildlife areas covering approximately 900,000 acres, management of fishing and hunting, wildlife watching, camping, motorized and non-motorized trails, boating and outdoor education. CPW's work contributes approximately $6 billion in total economic impact annually throughout Colorado.



This is the Resolution approved May 2012
http://cpw.state.co.us/Documen...Draft_Resolution.pdf
 
Posts: 5604 | Location: Eastern plains of Colorado | Registered: 31 October 2005Reply With Quote
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At this time the state of Colorado has no plans to reintroduce wolves, only a plan on dealing with them when they get here either by overspill from other states or introduction by the Feds.
That is what is outlined in the May 2012 Resolution. The wording in that resolution is favorable to ranchers and sportsmen however alludes to the fact that the Feds will do what they want.
The real fight here is with our Federal government.

I can't find anything on the Colorado Parks and Wildlife website about voting or opinion poll of "option 1 or 2"
Please provide a link if you can.
 
Posts: 5604 | Location: Eastern plains of Colorado | Registered: 31 October 2005Reply With Quote
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I received an email from RMEF. this is what i received

To All Colorado RMEF members,

Colorado Parks and Wildlife (CPW) is planning to adopt one of two alternative resolutions regarding wolf reintroduction in Colorado. The meeting is this Wednesday, January 13. The pro-wolf people, in-state and nationally (Defenders of Wildlife among them), are rallying hard, flooding the CPW with emails and planning to have "hundreds" of supporters at the meeting. Go here to find our letter to the CPW and we ask that you make your feelings known as well by emailing the CPW.

Pro-hunting groups will also be represented, but we are likely to be outnumbered. The pro-wolf people are going at this very hard and may be bussing people in from Boulder.

The alternatives are shown below. The best alternative for hunters or anyone really concerned about overall wildlife management is Alternative 2.

Please send emails to the CPW at dnr_cpwcommission@state.co.us. This is an important step in delaying or prohibiting the reintroduction. The pro-wolf people are all over this. We need the help of all hunters!



M. David Allen
RMEF President & CEO


Original version: NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission affirms its support of the Wolf Working Group’s recommendations adopted by the Wildlife Commission in May 2005 and hereby opposes any introduction of Mexican or intentional reintroduction of gray wolves in the State of Colorado.

Alternative Version 1: NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission affirms its support of the Wolf Working Group’s recommendations adopted by the Wildlife Commission in May 2005, recommends that Mexican wolf recovery efforts be confined to the subspecies’ historic range, and emphasizes the importance of bi-national recovery planning with Mexico.

Alternative Version 2: NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission affirms its support of the Wolf Working Group’s recommendations adopted by the Wildlife Commission in May 2005, opposes the intentional release of any wolves into Colorado, recommends that Mexican wolf recovery efforts be confined to the subspecies’ historic range, and emphasizes the importance of bi-national recovery planning with Mexico.

dnr_cpwcommission@state.co.us

Thank you for your support of elk and other wildlife in Colorado.
 
Posts: 787 | Location: Mt Pleasant, SC | Registered: 19 January 2005Reply With Quote
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I sent this email:
I understand the CPW will be voting on one of two wolf proposals tomorrow. As an avid outdoorsman in this great state, please consider voting for version 2 as I understand it, Opposing the intentional release of any wolves in Colorado.

As a hunter, a conservationist, wildlife photographer, hiker, etc... I would love to one day have the original wolves roaming their original range. However, as is seen in the states where the re-introduction of wolves has taken place, politics, not biology and science, seems to be the management practice. Until this can change in the U.S., adding more wolves will only serve to decimate wildlife and livestock. The wolves of the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem have more than met their recovery numbers needed to be removed from the endangered species list, yet still remain. why? In my mind it is political fighting, and not sound biological management. We cannot let this happen to our great state as well.

Please, I urge you, OPPOSE the release of wolves in Colorado, until this species of animal may be treated and managed like all others. The management practice of "leave the animals alone", and pretend that humans have no part in the natural world, while at the same time managing elk, deer, moose, lions, etc... and not wolves, is not the best management practice, and we see it in WY, MT, ID, and MN. Please, do not let this happen to Colorado as well.

Thank you for your time


i received an automatic reply mentioning the draft wolf resolution. this is what i received back:

This is an automatic response to the submission of your comments to the Parks and Wildlife Commission regarding Colorado Parks and Wildlife’s Draft Wolf Resolution. Your comments will be shared with the Commission as part of the public input process. Please do not reply to this message. Replies to this message are routed to an unmonitored inbox.
 
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I feel damn sorry for Colorado if it gets a "reintroduction" of this scum!
 
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I wrote to them as well and received the same response.

dnr_cpwcommission@state.co.us
 
Posts: 5604 | Location: Eastern plains of Colorado | Registered: 31 October 2005Reply With Quote
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wolves are wolves original or other wise

I live with them every day one has to be careful about letting the dog out.

Just recently I seen them and had there tracks less then a quarter mile from the house. No thank you they are not needed.

I have had them walk through the yard.

Neighbors and friends have lost dogs and live stock to them.

Sorry they are not the friendly furry forest critters that the pro wolf people say they are.

As a hunter when your vote for wolves you are voting for less hunting opportunity.
 
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wolves are wolves original or other wise

I live with them every day one has to be careful about letting the dog out.

Just recently I seen them and had there tracks less then a quarter mile from the house. No thank you they are not needed.

I have had them walk through the yard.

Neighbors and friends have lost dogs and live stock to them.

Sorry they are not the friendly furry forest critters that the pro wolf people say they are.

As a hunter when your vote for wolves you are voting for less hunting opportunity.


Bingo!
If some of you want more "research" look no further than Wyoming, Idaho and Montana, to name a few!
Ask any red-blooded American sportsmen in those States about the damn wolves.
I can't believe a hunter would even have a question let alone take a positive position concerning wolves.
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by the way;
My emails and letter have been sent because I don't want to sit on my hands on this deal... like so many are willing to do.
It's time we did some heavy-lifting of our own rather than let someone else fight our fight or decide the future of our beloved sport!
Zeke
 
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I may be wrong but I thought they were already in Northern Colorado!

SSS

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I may be wrong but I thought they were already in Northern Colorado!

SSS

God Bless, Louis


Many people have seen wolves in Colorado, however the official word is they don't live here. If they are recognized as having permanent residence status then all kinds of steps and programs must go in effect to protect and manage them. Consequently any that are sighted now are considered visitors, just passin through!
 
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I may be wrong but I thought they were already in Northern Colorado!

SSS

God Bless, Louis


Many people have seen wolves in Colorado, however the official word is they don't live here.



I always find the "they don't live here" quote an interesting one. I know the answer is absolutely don't shoot but it always goes through my head... "if the state says it isn't here and I shoot the mt lion/wolf/wild pig that the state says doesn't live here, shouldn't the state thank me for removing a potentially invasive species that must have escaped from a private individual/preserve"
 
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SSS!
Shoot/Shovel/Shut Up.

The folks I know in Northern/North Western Colorado understand the Three S concept.


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Many people have seen wolves in Colorado, however the official word is they don't live here.



I always find the "they don't live here" quote an interesting one. I know the answer is absolutely don't shoot but it always goes through my head... "if the state says it isn't here and I shoot the mt lion/wolf/wild pig that the state says doesn't live here, shouldn't the state thank me for removing a potentially invasive species that must have escaped from a private individual/preserve"


That is a darn interesting point! Couldn't a person shoot a wolf and just say, "Wolf? No that is just a huge coyote. We don't have wolves here in Colorado...."


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Hopefully everyone saying JUST SSS and all will be fine, sent an email. There is quite a difference between some wolves expanding vs entire PACKS being transplanted ON TOP of those illegal aliens.

Beyond that, seems the word is #2 narrowly passed tonight. However, they state legislature can still move for introduction. Nothing stated yet about when that may come up on the floor.


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The conundrum as to whether or not one can shoot a wolf which isn't there is similar, in many respects to the Forest Service position regarding the salvage of logs. One guy wanted to salvage downed timber from a clear cut and was told he couldn't do that because it was a clearcut and there was, therefor, no timber remaining. His answer was to haul the logs at night. Years later, the US Military came up with a mantra which he was able to embrace whole-heartedly and he lives by it to this day: Don't ask, Don't tell. Regards, Bill
 
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Don't ask, Don't tell. Regards, Bill


When I did my black bear hunt in Idaho in 2010, the guide I hunted with told me that when I would be out in my stand I might see some wolves.

He said if I shot one by mistake, to just not tell him anything about it.


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Posts: 31014 | Location: Olney, Texas | Registered: 27 March 2006Reply With Quote
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As a hunter when your vote for wolves you are voting for less hunting opportunity.


True enough, when there were only Indians and wolves eating the elk there were enough to go around.
There was no need for additional game management. Things have changed.


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I hope it works out for you guys down there. We're having a hell of a time with the wolves up here in B.C. There numbers are going up and they're doing a number on our caribou and moose population. Keep them out while you can cuz once they're there the tree hunger miley cyrus lovein sheep will swarm.


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Just a personal opinion. I think the wolfs are being introduced in more places than we are aware of. Either by the Feds. or people for the wolf type organizations, and only when they have established packs will they admit to their presence and place protective sanctions. They don't have to have hearings to get permission for their introduction. All they have to do is validate the existing packs and shove it down our throats.
Ca. has an existing pack in the Siskiyou Mt.'s
In fact I hunted north of Susanville Ca. oct. 2014 and noticed at one rural residence there was at least 10 extra large kennel boxes approximateley 10x10 footers. I asked a government employee about them and he stated there is a woman who raises wolfs there. A couple of years ago the dogs flipped the food bowl, so she went in to right it back up and conveniently left the gate partly open. All the wolfs in that box escaped and still at large.
draw whatever conclusion you like.
I hunted the Eagle Gap Wilderness of NE Oregon four years ago, a drop camp solo. Did not see one deer or elk, but heard the wolfs nightly.
All states beware, They are coming. I would hate to see Co.'s beautiful elk herds decimated to match Yellowstone Wy.
 
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Hell of it is. You and all your buddies can SSS everyone you'll ever see and never make a dent in the numbers as you just won't see that many of them.

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