Looks like the same guy who is a partner with David Morris.



http://www.dallasnews.com/shar...ories/D9GGINK01.html

Yep... that's him.

Anytime I see or read his name all I can think about is his CUTE daughter!! Yooza!

Well.......what does she look like?

I thought I read or seen something on their TV show that indicated he was a heart surgeon...or am I mistaken?

I imagine David Morris and Jeff Foxworthy are thrilled with their boy.........

Bob

And you wonder why medical care costs so much in the US. He'd be convicted and sentenced to death in China for this.

Sounds like ol' Dave needs a need partner.

every time socialized med is mentioned all the doctors always say how bad the care would be if it happened. They are digging their own hole slowly.

I know a few of the guys in the "food plot" industry. They told me Schwarz sold his Tecomate seed company about five or so years ago...he basically has nothing to do with the company itself, other than lending his face to the cause...sort of like Ray Scott and BASS.

"It's unclear if any of them had retained lawyers."

Oh, I'd guess they probably have....

And 505ED.....do you think physicians make too much money?

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Originally posted by 505ED:
every time socialized med is mentioned all the doctors always say how bad the care would be if it happened. They are digging their own hole slowly.

That's your opinion. The problem with "socialized medicine" is that the dopes in Washington want to provide it but without tort reform. You can't do it half assed. Doctors and hospitals will be in a hole with either. It's a lateral move, from the current shit system to another. Over 1000 family physicians have left southwest Ohio in the past 10 years due to current low reimbursement. To go social means more patients but even less per visit, i.e., work harder for less per visit. That's what the HMO's promised and it's what they delivered.

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And 505ED.....do you think physicians make too much money?

2 PCPs I know from church stated they pay themselves about 17 cents on every dollar collected. That's a lot of overhead. Most practices do good if they can keep overhead to 60% or less, but I don't think that's the norm.

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Originally posted by Doc:

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Originally posted by Norton:
And 505ED.....do you think physicians make too much money?

2 PCPs I know from church stated they pay themselves about 17 cents on every dollar collected. That's a lot of overhead. Most practices do good if they can keep overhead to 60% or less, but I don't think that's the norm.

My overhead is right around what you mentioned....we can make a comfortable living, but that's about it(along with a lot of liability if you're a surgeon, as in my case).

I've mentioned before to folks who think MDs are the problem......next time you or a loved one are in the hospital for awhile after a surgical procedure, look at the bill carefully and you'll notice that the physician's fee is less than 5% of the bill(for example, if you stay for a week or two in an ICU after surgery and your bill is $500,000.....your surgeon probably got about 2 grand for the procedure if he's lucky).

When you understand that nurses and PAs are making $100k and up(no overhead or liability).....and the hospital CEO is making 3 or 4 times what the highest paid surgeons are, then you may start to understand why healthcare is so expensive.

Norton, it is always easy for people to look at a medical bill, or for that matter an automobile dealership's bill for work done in their shop, and blame the Dr. or the mechanic.

Human nature causes people to focus on one aspect, not take an overview of the whole system.

You're right CHC......but do you hear a tremendous outcry to reduce the salaries of these other folks I mentioned? All we hear about is reducing physician's income somehow. Remember, without the doctors the HMO and hospital CEOs cease to exist.

Amazing how little our culture values those of us who actually care for us when we ask for or need help with something as trivial as our health.

Edit: Sorry, I know this has nothing to do with American Big Game Hunting.

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You're right CHC......but do you hear a tremendous outcry to reduce the salaries of these other folks I mentioned?

Yes. Obama said to the AMA (those attending the meeting), "DOCTORS AND NURSES MAKE TOO MUCH MONEY."

Notice how he didn't bother mentioning trial lawyers making a living on med mal practice make too much money.

There was an article in, I think, Orthopaedics Today that surveyed patients who had an orthopaedic surgical procedure or were going to. They were asked what amount did they think was closest to what the physician would be paid for procedures. The survery concluded $5000. The correct answer was $1000, for whatever stats were used. It goes to show that the patient base believes docs make more than they do, in general. What bothers me is that expenses rise annually, as well as copays, deductibles, co-insurance, and insured premiums, as where reimbursement does not. It goes down for the most part. However, for the first time in over a decade, BCBS actually went up on about 30 codes by 50 cents.

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Amazing how little our culture values those of us who actually care for us when we ask for or need help with something as trivial as our health.

It is also amazing how those who believe in entitlement continue to threaten to sue or do sue those who take care of them or their family when death occurs. I recall hearing one such patient stating she was going to sue both nurses who tried to start an IV, one in each arm, but could not get it.

I imagine it is difficult to provide good services to those who continue to threaten to sue. This happens every week in EDs across the country.

If we only had to pay for our health care economics would sort it all out. People pay for health insurance not health care. You want to see capitalism at work stop health insurance and make the customer pay out of pocket. Health insurance is a tax, and the fear of high health cost keeps people paying. If you can't pay you can't play--like DG in africa or applying for big horn tags in 5 states every year.

If people had the actual "value" of their health care than maybe people would value it.

Doc and slim.....both correct.

The further I get into practice the more I wonder.......what exactly is the upside of me going into the ER to sew up an uninsured drunk's face? Answer: absolutely none! All the liability and ZERO compensation......and most of the time it's unappreciated......lose/lose proposition.....and most of these patients are just praying for a reason to sue.

Anyone else that's gone to school for umpteen years and paid several hundred K in tuition work for free?

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Originally posted by Norton:
The further I get into practice the more I wonder.......what exactly is the upside of me going into the ER to sew up an uninsured drunk's face?

Best answer: bc you were the one on call or on the unit at the time of admission.

There is one, well maybe 2, actual "upsides" to that: 1. is you continue to provide services, adding to your own experiences, so you never become "rusty." 2. It's a noble profession, healthcare. And, other than those who retain that entitlement is their GOD GIVEN RIGHT, now and then I'm sure you do get thank you's from time to time.

I suppose the thread has turned far enough off track from Am Big Game, however. Sorry for my rants.