Optimum 30-06 Bullet for Bighorn?

12 May 2002, 06:37

Pecos41

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Originally posted by dobieman0690:
I would use the nosler 165 gr BT

I think I will have to second Dobie's suggestion...although I don't believe I would be afraid to even use a good 150gr partition. A little faster and flater but would still do the job in a good bullet.

As always, the main thing is just hit the animal where he lives and he will be coming home with you. This is the secret to a successful hunt...not having the theoretical "perfect combination of components."

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A well placed bullet is worth 1,000 ft/lbs of energy.

12 May 2002, 09:02

Atkinson

In reality most sheep are shot a short range after a successful stalk. I always demand a bullet that will shoot through the animal that I am hunting, from any angle in case that is the only shot opertunity I get..

I would choose the 180 gr. Nosler and take them as they come...the difference in trajectory betwee the 150,165 and 180 is measured in less than 3 or 4 inches at long ranges and practically none up to 300 yds. and one shouldn't shoot sheep further than than IMHO...I can wiggle plus or minus 3 or 4 inches under hunting conditions!!

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
atkinsonhunting.com

12 May 2002, 11:12

RMK

I'd go with the 180gr bullet and never look back. On average with the 165gr bullet,at 300 yards,you're talking an inch differance in drop at 300 yards,when compared with a 180gr bullet.

12 May 2002, 20:48

todbartell

Does he shoot factory stuff, or handloads?

I agree with Atkinson, use a 180 gr. Out to 250 yards, it's trajectory is the same as a 150 gr. or 165 gr. Also, use a premium bullet, those Bighorn tags are pretty rare. A 180 gr. Nolser Partition or Partition Gold would be my first choices. You may also want to try the 165 gr. Barnes XLC. Now, if it will shoot in his rifle , it would be your best bet. Flat shooting, and deep penetration. Whatever he choses, don't skimp on the bullet.

13 May 2002, 00:00

p dog shooter

Any good 165 or 180 gr bullet well do the job just fine. Find the one that shoots the best in your rifle load it and go kill your sheep. If it is a premium or just a plain jane rem horaday win speer or sierra. They well al work just fine.

13 May 2002, 01:45

beemanbeme

I'd have to go with the 180's. That said, I wisht I had a dollar for every deer I've killed with a 165gr Hornady.

13 May 2002, 13:01

<razorback>

I would shoot the swift scirroco's, they are bonded to hold together, but have a super high bc, and if you don't reload, remington offers factory ammo

13 May 2002, 19:55

<BigBob>

DENTON,
The wild sheep of North America are not very large. On my hunts I found they didn't have the body mass to force good performance from a 180 grain bullet out of a .30-06. As I recall the writtings of Jack O'Connor he used a 130 grain bullet in his .270s on sheep. I was more than happy with a 150 and 165 grain bullets on sheep. The only reason I went to a 165 grain bullet in my .30-06 was because Grizzly Bears hunt the same country the sheep live in in Alaska. Good luck.

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BigBob

14 May 2002, 03:53

<Peter Walker>

Because of body size and location I like a bullet that expands rapidly. I've used 150gr Nosler Ballistic Tips very successfully the past three years, they provide very large wound channels at close range and good penetration out past 200yds. Not having any scientific figures to throw on the table I'll just have to say that with sheep and goats the lighter constructed bullets anchor them quicker than sturdier, heavier bullets, given similar bullet placement.

...Peter

14 May 2002, 04:48

<Don Martin29>

While I am not sure how far a 165 gr or even the 150 gr Partition would penetrate those would be my choice. The recoil is a little less and I would have been shooting the rifle all summer. Also the trajectory would be better.

After going thru all the trouble to get a Big Horn tag, climbing all over those rocks and finally getting a shot I would not pass up a long one. But I had already selected the 30/06 of my first choice for such a hunt. I don't know if I would carry my Ruger #1A or my M-70 Featherweight.

14 May 2002, 04:55

<T/Jazz>

I have personally wittnessed a 400 plus yard shot on a 5x5 elk using a 180 Nosler partition bullet out of a 30-06, so maybe it was a little bit of luck hitting the animal, but the bullet had enough left to do the job. Use the 180 grain and Elmer will smile down upon you!

14 May 2002, 15:06

<woody>

UTAH BIGHORN:

I WILL NOT PASS ON AN OPINION ON THE 30-06 BUT LET ME OFFER SOME EXPERIENCE.

I SHOT A STONE SHEEP AT APPROXIMATELY 425 YDS WITH A 130 GR NOSLER .270. THE BULLET EXITED THE ANIMAL.

I SHOT A DALL SHEEP AT APPROXIMATELY 100YDS WITH THE SAME BULLET AS USED ON THE STONE. I HAD THE SAME RESULTS.

I SHOT A DERSERT BIGHORN WITH A 120GR .257 AI AT APPROXIMATELY 90 YARDS. THE BULLET WAS A SPEER GRAND SLAM AND IT STAYED IN THE SHEEP.

THE ABOVE THREE ANIMALS WERE SHOT IN THE LUNGS WHILE THEY WERE STANDING BROADSIDE.

I SHOT A BIG HORN WITH A 150GR HORNADY IN THE .270 AT 178 YDS. THE SHEEP WAS LYING DOWN, QUARTERING AWAY FROM ME. THE BULLET STAYED IN THE SHEEP.

IN ALL CASES, THE SHEEP DID NOT MOVE MORE THAN 10 YDS. I BELIEVE ONE WOULD QUICKLY KILL A SHEEP WITH A .244 IF HIT IN THE LUNGS.

LARRY WOODCOCK
DILLON, MT