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27 March 2006, 19:10
Wstrnhuntr
Game specific rifle battery.
Just wondering out loud, why do we choose the chamberings we do in those "5 rifle battery" threads? Seems to me we perhaps should choose our poison for a specific purpose. What would be your prefered rig for these particular animals? Feel free to elaborate on the situation or loads. Name as many or as few guns as you like.


A- Coyotes

B- Speedgoat

C- Black Bear

d- Western states Mule Deer

E- eastern woods whitetail

F- Elk

G- Moose

H- Bison



For me it would go something like;

A- 223

B- 257 AI

C- 300 savage, (using dogs, open sights, 180 gn Hornadys).

D- 257 AI, 260 Rem or 280 Rem. Doesnt matter.

E- Same as c without the dogs.

F- 35 Whelen, 225 gn BT or 30-06 180 gn Accubond.

G- 35 Whelen, 225 gn BT

H- 35 Whelen, 250 gn Hornady
27 March 2006, 19:38
vapodog
quote:
A- Coyotes

B- Speedgoat

C- Black Bear

d- Western states Mule Deer

E- eastern woods whitetail

F- Elk

G- Moose

H- Bison


IMO the ideal for them is as folows
Coyotes............25-06
speedgoat..........25-06
black bear.........270 Win
mule deer..........270 Win
whitetail..........6.5 X 55
elk................30-06
moose..............30-06
bison..............338-06

Sadly the .30-06 will do it all and it's a darn poor choice for that reason.....it makes it difficult to justify other guns when you own one. This is also true of the .280 Rem....bad choice for a first gun.


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27 March 2006, 19:47
SDhunter
A- Coyotes-22-250

B- Speedgoat-270 win

C- Black Bear-338-06
d- Western states Mule Deer-270 win

E- eastern woods whitetail-270 win

F- Elk-338-06

G- Moose-338-06

H- Bison-338-06 for a real hunt
270 win for the pasture/canned/meat shoot
27 March 2006, 20:10
HARDBALLER
A-Coyotes 220 Swift
B-Antelope 25-06
C-Blackbear 25-06
D-Mulie 25-06
E-Whitetail 25-06
F-Elk 338 Win Mag for lower 48's, 375H&H for AK beacause of heavy brush and brown bears.
G-Moose (AK, Yukon)375 H&H because of brown bear
H-Bison 375 H&H
27 March 2006, 20:15
bearcat
A. Bobcat/Foxes- 17 Remington

B. Coyotes- 22-250

C. Black Bear- 338 RUM

D. Western States Mule Deer- 270 AI

E. Eastern Wood Whitetail- 270 AI

F. Elk- 338 RUM

G. Moose- 338 RUM

H- Bison- 338 RUM

The lil 17 Rem is in a CZ527 Varmint shooting 25g berger HP's for hide damage control.
The 22-250 is a Rem 700 VS shooting 50g Speer MHP's
The 270AI is in a Pre 64 Winny shooting 140g TSX's
Still playin with the 338 RUM, it is a Rem 700 XCR with a Knoxx's compstock on it. Bullet will either be the 225 accubond, 225 TSX, 250 TSX, or the 250 Sierra SBT. Which ever shoots better when load development is done.
27 March 2006, 22:10
nordrseta
A, B, & E: 243 Winchester
A-H: 30'06
F-H: 375 H&H
28 March 2006, 00:02
CLIFT
My personal choice of rifles are:

Coyote- 22-250 or 6MM Remington

Antelope, Black Bear, Whitetail Deer- 270 Winchester

Elk, Moose, Bison- 300 Weatherby Magnum

African Lion, Buffalo, Elephant, Alaskan Brown Bear-375 H&H Magnum

Great Topic!
28 March 2006, 00:31
jstevens
coyotes-.220 Swift
speedgoat-.257 Weatherby
black bear-.338-06
mulies-.257 Weatherby
whitetail-7x57
elk-.338-06
moose-.375 H&H
bison-.375 H&H
I guess I could just use my .338-06 for whitetail, and get rid of a bunch of rifles. That'll never happen. Or I could use my .220 for speedgoats(no legal), the 7x57 for mulies, whitetail and elk, and the .375 for the rest. Or...


A shot not taken is always a miss
28 March 2006, 01:36
Whiteeyetattoo
A- Coyotes .22-250
B- Speedgoat .264 Win Mag
C- Black Bear 7mm Rem Mag
d- Western Mule Deer .264 win mag
E- eastern woods whitetail .30-06
F- Elk 7 STW
G- Moose 300 WSM
H- Bison .45-70 for nostalgia

I could do them all with my TG&Y Rem 700 .30-06.
28 March 2006, 02:36
Sendero300
A- Coyotes .243 Win.

B- Speedgoat I'll be using a .300HH this year but I would love to have a tricked out .270 Win...lower recoil for the longer shots?

C- Black Bear .300HH

d- Western states Mule Deer .300WM

E- eastern woods whitetail .300HH

F- Elk .300WM

G- Moose .300HH with the Nosler 180gr bullet or .338WM

H- Bison A nice double rifle in 500/416..maybe a Heym


Sendero300>>>===TerryP
28 March 2006, 04:29
Mike_Dettorre
Rifle No 1. A 308 Win, 3.5x10, 23 " med heavy bbl, wt 10lbs to absorb recoil...168grn BTHP

Rifle No 2. A 308 Win, 2.5x10, 22 " med lt bbl fluted, 22 inches...wt 6 2/3 lbs 165 grn prmium bullet

Rifle No 3. 376 steyr 8.5 lbs loaded 2x7 scope 260 premium bullets

A- Coyotes Rifle 1

B- Speedgoat Rifle 1

C- Black Bear Rifle 2

d- Western states Mule Deer Rifle 2

E- eastern woods whitetail Rifle 2

F- Elk Rifle 3

G- Moose Rifle 3

H- Bison Rifle 3


Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
28 March 2006, 04:44
cobrad
Good follow up to the 5 gun battery thread.

prairie dogs-Cooper varmint weight 22-250

whistle pigs in the high country, coyotes-Kimber Montana .243 shooting 58 gr v-max's, fast

deer, elk, sheep, 'yotes, more whistle pigs-Kimber Classic .300 WSM shooting 168 TSX's

elk, griz, yet more ground hogs or anything else needing a stomping at longer ranges-custom Remmy .358 STA shooting 250-280 gr. Swift A-Frames or Northforks

moose, brown bear, yes, it will take on ground hogs this summer, anything needing a real stomping at shorter ranges-Remmy custom shop .458 Win mag shooting 400 gr. Northforks.

Crap, where do the Kimber Montana .338 Win mag and the Remmy AWR 7mm Rem mag, neither of which I have, yet, fit? Guess I'll have to invent something.
28 March 2006, 06:35
Grizzly1
A-223 Remington

B-257 Roberts

C-Over bait or spring SE AK-257 Roberts. Spot and stalk 30-06 Spr.

D-257 Roberts

E-30-06 Spr. with 200gr NP, I would be fine with the Roberts here too.

F-375 H&H

G-375 H&H

H-458 WM

Kind of a short list of critters to squeeze the five guns in, but the above uses the five I listed in the thread mentioned, I could do them all with the "06" though.....I'd rather have 5 guns!

-Ron
28 March 2006, 06:46
Ray
For me it would be:
.270
.338WM

Deer, caribou, moose, bears.
28 March 2006, 07:31
Skinner.
quote:
A- Coyotes


And bobcats, .17 Remington since I harvest for the pelts.

quote:

B- Speedgoat

C- Black Bear

d- Western states Mule Deer

E- eastern woods whitetail

F- Elk

G- Moose


7mm Rem. Mag. with 160gr. Nosler Partitions

quote:

H- Bison



.375 H&H, 300 gr. Nosler Partition.
28 March 2006, 07:33
Dr B
A- Coyotes

B- Speedgoat

C- Black Bear

d- Western states Mule Deer

E- eastern woods whitetail

F- Elk

G- Moose

H- Bison

I- Brown Bear


A 223 wssm

B 257 stw

C 300 wsm

D 257 STW

E 257 STW

F 300 WSM

G 300 WSM

H 300 WSM

I 416 REM
28 March 2006, 10:22
dgr416
338 win mag for all of them.I shot my first coyote two years ago with my 338 win mag.I have shot 84 deer whitetails with 84 shots with my 338 win mag and one black bear.I think Kodiaks is where I draw the 416 rem mam line.Buffalos can be very tough if they are truely wild.We had a buffalo hall of pictures there were lots shot with 375 H&H and 458 win mags that took alot more than one shot.
28 March 2006, 16:47
ldkier
A. .17 Remington (Pelts)
B. .270 win. 130 gr. conventional
C. 9.3 X 57 Conventional s.p. bullet
D. .270 win. 150 gr. conventional
E. 9.3 X 57 Conventional s.p. bullet
F. 9.3 X 62 Partition or bonded bullet
G. 9.3 X 62 " " "
H. 9.3 X 62 " " "


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Hamlet III/ii

28 March 2006, 17:50
30378
A- Coyotes - 223

B- Speedgoat - 25\06

C- Black Bear - 300 Winchester

d- Western states Mule Deer - 260 Remington

E- eastern woods whitetail - 25/06

F- Elk - 30/378 Weatherby

G- Moose - 30/378 Weatherby

H- Bison - 30/378 Weatherby


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28 March 2006, 19:19
BigNate
quote:
A- Coyotes

B- Speedgoat

C- Black Bear

d- Western states Mule Deer

E- eastern woods whitetail

F- Elk

G- Moose

H- Bison



A. Dependes on fur prices and area. When saving fur I've used the .223 mostly, and the .22-250 when hunting wide open places.

B. .257 Roberts or .25-06
C. .30-30 or .308 carbine with hounds, spot and stalk- .257,.25-06, '06, 7mmRM doesn't matter, choose by mood.
D. Depends on the area a little, .257 Roberts, .25-06, or 7mmRM
E. .308 carbine in the thick, .257 or .25-06
F. .338 Win Mag
G. 7mmRM or .338WM
H. .338WM or use this as an excuse to buy one more! Big Grin Nate
28 March 2006, 20:02
buffybr
My personal pick, or what I have used is:

A - Coyotes - .22-250, or whatever else I am carrying

B - Speedgoats - .257 AI

C - Black Bear - .44 Ruger Super Blackhawk

D - Mule Deer - .257 AI

E - Whitetail - .257 AI

F - Elk - .30 Gibbs with 180 NP

G - Moose - .30 Gibbs with 180 NP

H - American Buffalo - .54 Hawken w/ 435 gr Maxi-hunter


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28 March 2006, 20:51
WPN
A- Coyotes .300Win Mag

B- Speedgoat .300Win Mag

C- Black Bear .300Win Mag

d- Western states Mule Deer .300Win Mag

E- eastern woods whitetail .300Win Mag

F- Elk .300Win Mag

G- Moose .300Win Mag

H- Bison .300Win Mag


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28 March 2006, 21:44
phurley5
A- Coyotes .243 WSSM B- Speedgoat .257 Wby C- Blackbear .270 WSM D- Mule Deer 7mm STW E- Whitetail Deer .300 Winny F- Elk .338 Lapua G- Moose .340 Wby H- Bison .358 STA


phurley
28 March 2006, 21:44
7magman
A- Coyotes-222

B- Speedgoat-257 roberts

C- Black Bear-338-06

d- Western states Mule Deer-7mm rem mag

E- eastern woods whitetail-7x57

F- Elk-338-06

G- Moose-338-06

H- Bison-450 marlin
28 March 2006, 22:25
TerryR
A - Coyotes - 223

B - speed goats - 25-06

C - Black Bear - 45-70

D - Mule Deer - 30-06

E - Whitetail - 7X57

F - elk - 30-06

G - Moose - 375 H&H

H - Bison - 470 NE
28 March 2006, 22:36
hikerbum
WPN
you beat me to it. I was going to put down 30-06 for all


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28 March 2006, 22:38
fla3006
A- Coyotes- 223Rem, 6mmRem

B- Speedgoat- 270Win

C- Black Bear- 30-06

d- Western states Mule Deer- 300H&H

E- eastern woods whitetail- 30-06

F- Elk- 300H&H

G- Moose- 300H&H

H- Bison- 375H&H


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28 March 2006, 23:20
Brent
A-H with a .45-2.6-550 Works everytime.

Brent


When there is lead in the air, there is hope in my heart -- MWH ~1996
28 March 2006, 23:37
PWN375
A- Coyotes...a 22-250

B- Speedgoat...a 25-06

C- Black Bear...35 Whelen

d- Western states Mule Deer...300 Win Mag

E- eastern woods whitetail...35 Remington

F- Elk...338

G- Moose...375 H&H (bears inhabit the same area)

H- Bison...45-70 (tradition)

Or a good old 30-06 for everything

Perry
28 March 2006, 23:58
whiplash
I like the cheap route....A through F...308Win...G and H.....hummm, no room left in the freezer after F.
29 March 2006, 18:02
Wstrnhuntr
Lots of interesting choices. Im glad that some of you felt free to toss in a couple more critters, I didnt mean to make it limiting, just threw a couple picks up to see where they'd land. Keep um coming gents! Smiler
29 March 2006, 18:38
Paul Tunkis
In Reality :
A-G 270 with either 140 gr. Hornady or 150gr Partitions,
OR 35 Whelen with pistol bullets for A and 250gr Partitions for everything else
OR 44mag with 240gr Hornadys for A,B,D,E or 250gr Partitions or LBT solids for C, F and G.

H- Either the 35 Whelen with 250gr. Partitions or my new 9.3x62 with 286gr Partitions (Just because I haven't shot anything with it yet.)

Playing "What if"_
A-223
B-25-06
C-44 Mag.
D-270
E-30-30
F-338 Win.
G-35 Whelen
H-45/120 BP
29 March 2006, 21:44
sierrabravo45
A-H

.375 H&H


Mink and Wall Tents don't go together. Especially when you are sleeping in the Wall Tent.
DRSS .470 & .500


29 March 2006, 22:17
Riodot
Prairie Dogs/short range - 375 H&H/ 260gr Nosler BT
jumping
Coyotes - 22-250/ 40gr Barnes Varminator or whatever I'm carrying at the time.
Javelina - 22-250 rifle/ 53gr TSX or my T/C Encore pistol in 25.06/117gr Nosler BT
Speedgoat - .270/ 140gr Nosler BT
Black Bear - never hunted but 9.3x62/ 286gr TSX
Western Coues deer - 300 Wby Mag/ 168gr TSX
Western Mulie - 300 Wby Mag/ 168 TSX
Eastern Whitetail - 300 Wby Mag/ 168 TSX
Elk - 9.3x62/ 286 gr TSX or 375 H&H/ 270gr TSX
Moose - (See Elk)
Bison - 375 H&H/ 300gr TSX

This is FUN!!!


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29 March 2006, 22:22
mmaggi
Coyotes............25-06
speedgoat..........25-06
black bear..........30-06
mule deer..........270 or 30-06
whitetail...........30-06
elk................338-06
moose..............338-06
bison..............338-06