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Thinking about a "New" G-Bear pistol
01 April 2013, 06:27
ravenrThinking about a "New" G-Bear pistol
Buddy of mine has a XDS and I tryed it the other day. Controlled shooting at 45 feet, 2" bull.
45 auto and super lite weight.
Don't hardly pack a bear pistol now, but my sweetheart thinks I need one.
Must think I'm getting slower than the bears

01 April 2013, 06:41
drummondlindseyquote:
Originally posted by ravenr:
Must think I'm getting slower than the bears
Or slower than your buddies

01 April 2013, 07:09
Mike_DettorreIf you like it...get one...shoot the hottest 45 acp you can...and empty it into the bears head...if you are having to use a handgun in a GBear situation...you likely need a CNS shot any way
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.
What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
01 April 2013, 07:21
ravenranother thing that I like about it.
you can safely carry it with "one in the tube"
So if heaven forbid, you end up "under" one of
them....
Been around a lot of Griz and haven't had
to shoot one yet but the next one could be the "wrong" one.
A lot of difference tween shooting paper and facing down a charging Griz, thou I think the
more you are prepared the better the outcome.
01 April 2013, 07:23
Les StaleyJust get yer girlfriend a 25 auto...she'll be good to go. (Glad to help). Les
01 April 2013, 07:37
Mike_DettorreFront Sight, Front Sight, Front Sight
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.
What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
01 April 2013, 07:47
AntlersNice shooting for a lighweight 45 - well done.
Antlers
Double Rifle Shooters Society
Heym 450/400 3"
01 April 2013, 18:27
Wendell Reichquote:
Originally posted by just-a-hunter:
I will suggest a crossbreed holster. Work great in wranglers and a can a cope in your back pocket will be more noticeable.
Love the Crossbreed's. There are other holsters just as good, but the CB is my Go-to 90% of the time.
01 April 2013, 19:08
p dog shooterMaybe even better is my taurus 44 tracker that will put them all in one hole at that range with a 315gr wfn at 1000fps.
But we all know a hit in the front paw with a 45
will do the job.
02 April 2013, 06:02
shawnmcA lot of guys carry .45acp these days. Lighter, more rounds and some what more controllable than the magnums. I prefer spray, cheaper, more affective, and you don't have to drag a warden or ranger into the high country and defend your actions. We come across half a dozen grizzlys every fall, never had any trouble. WE did see 9 in one trip 5 years ago while sheep hunting south west of Cody. Give them distance, obey the rules and a little common sense and no trouble.
As fast as they can cover ground, I don't know to many people who can draw and shoot quick enough in a surprise situation to do any good.
02 April 2013, 18:01
chuck375Can't disagree with you, except if you're all by your lonesome deep in grizzly country, sometimes a big boar will take a real interest in you. I've had that happen five days into the Bob Marshall. When that happens you really just have to move camp and keep a gun (or spray ready).
Regards,
Chuck
"There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit"
Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness"
02 April 2013, 21:59
p dog shooterquote:
As fast as they can cover ground, I don't know to many people who can draw and shoot quick enough in a surprise situation to do any good
Same goes with spray most people don't practice with spray
Don't know why people think drawing spray and pulling the safey pin is faster.
Carry what you like I prefer a good cailber firearm.
03 April 2013, 00:38
ravenr+1
03 April 2013, 03:32
BigNateLook at the MagTech loads.
Face it if you are drawing down on a charging Grizz. All else has already failed, and anything you do is better than nothing.