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375 H&H, 300 grain, 2700 fps on game?

Flat enough for you 300 Mag lovers?

http://www.federalcartridge.com/andex2.html

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Posts: 1805 | Location: American Athens, Greece | Registered: 24 November 2001Reply With Quote
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Socrates, I have used it on brown bear, cape buffalo, wildebeest, kudu, impala, zebra... and I love it. My experience has been that his bullet performs very well. I am not sure about the 2700 fps, however, that sounds high to me - I think it's closer to 2500 fps.
 
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How long is your barrel??

I'm quoting Federal High velocity specs, using a 24 inch barrel...

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Posts: 1805 | Location: American Athens, Greece | Registered: 24 November 2001Reply With Quote
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Socrates-
Nope, still not flat enough to be compared to a good 300. Plus, can you tolerate that much recoil to make 400yds shots 100% of the time? I can't so even if the rifle is capable it does me no good.
Those figures quoted are likely optimistic in most factory produced rifles or even many custom made ones. Possible- sure, but I wouldn't bet the farm on 2700fps.
 
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Socrates - it's a 24" - I'm looking at the Federal site (http://www.federalcartridge.com/andex2.html)

and I'm seeing 2530 fps in 24" barrels...

 
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I read 2530 fps from that website, also.

[This message has been edited by Longbob (edited 03-03-2002).]

 
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Sorry guys:
It's under "High energy" loads.

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Product: Premium High Energy Rifle
Caliber or Gauge: 375 H & H Magnum

Federal
Load # Caliber Bullet Weight Bullet
Style Primer
No.
Grains Grams
P375T3 375 H & H Magnum 300 19.44 Trophy Bonded Bear Claw 215

Federal
Load # Factory Velocity in Feet per Second
(to nearest 10 FPS)
Muzzle 100
Yds. 200
Yds. 300
Yds. 400
Yds. 500
Yds.
P375T3 2700 2440 2190 1960 1740 1540


Federal
Load # Energy in Foot-Pounds
(to nearest 5 foot-pounds)
Muzzle 100
Yds. 200
Yds. 300
Yds. 400
Yds. 500
Yds.
P375T3 4855 3960 3195 2550 2020 1585


Federal
Load # Wind Drift in Inches
(10 MPH crosswind)
100
Yds. 200
Yds. 300
Yds. 400
Yds. 500
Yds.
P375T3 1.0 4.3 10.2 19.3 32.0


Federal
Load # Height of bullet trajectory in inches
above or below line of sight if zeroed at � yards.
Sights 1.5 inches above bore line.
Average Range Long Range
50
Yds. 100
Yds. 200
Yds. 300
Yds. 50
Yds. 100
Yds. 200
Yds. 300
Yds. 400
Yds. 500
Yds.
P375T3 -0.1 � -4.4 -16.0 1.0 2.2 � -9.4 -28.0 -58.3


Federal
Load # Test Barrel Length
(Inches)
P375T3 24


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Posts: 1805 | Location: American Athens, Greece | Registered: 24 November 2001Reply With Quote
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You are correct. I looked only in the Safari section. You may find this of interest. They list the 300 grain Nosler Partitions at an 2530 fps. These are the results out of my M70 SS.

375 H&H Winchester M70 Stainless and 24" barrel. Federal Premium 300 gr. Nosler Partitions.

2481 fps
2484 fps
2468 fps

 
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That's why I have a 25 inch barrel:-)

Anyway, anything I would hit with that load wouldn't know the difference anyway, between 2700-2500.

I just thought it made the idea of improving, or adding capacity to the case, a moot point, since you can get the extra couple hundred feet per second with barrel length, and factory loads.

Saeed has his 404/375, the RUM, and the WBY, all are considerations for my CZ 550.

However, if factory loads are close to those specs, why bother?

I figure if you go much higher, for DGR, the bullet may blow up.

Also Gerard has some very fast, high BC 375 240-265 grain bullets, for ultra high velocities, out of a 375 H&H.

All of this sort of put to rest my idea of rechambering for a 375 WBY, etc.

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Posts: 1805 | Location: American Athens, Greece | Registered: 24 November 2001Reply With Quote
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I've used a couple. The bullets performed great. One was a poor shot on a Buffalo that had to be followed up, my rifle but I wasn't the shooter. The other was a Black Wildebeest, went down instantly from a frontal shot at 250 yds.

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