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27 May 2014, 07:08
sevenmagltd.
15 bonus pts in Az.
Mule deer. Do I have a chance of drawing one of the good tags?? 12A west??? Recommendations??
27 May 2014, 21:11
Ackley Improved User
NO
28 May 2014, 07:29
sevenmagltd.
Thanks for that helpful advice, exactly what I was looking for.
28 May 2014, 07:47
Poyntman
Do you subscribe to Eastmans? I find their MRS section extremely useful for this exact type thing. If you PM me i can send you data on Arizona by unit, but all the top units are very hard to draw as we all know
28 May 2014, 09:40
twoseventy
Call Ryan Hatch at MULEY CRAZY magazine. He can give you the stats. Since non residents get only 10% of the tags, they are usually gone in the max point draw.

Tom


...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men.
-Edward, duke of York

". . . when a man has shot an elephant his life is full." ~John Alfred Jordan

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Cogito ergo venor- KPete

“It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages.”
― Adam Smith - “Wealth of Nations”
29 May 2014, 06:26
Ackley Improved User
I'm sorry - I apologize. My response reflects my depression at the extremely low odds of drawing a mule deer tag in areas 12 or 13 in Arizona - ESPECIALLY, a non resident. I have a myriad of bonus points and have never been able to draw a tag from either area.

My advice - keep trying, you may get extremely lucky, but the vast majority will never get such a tag.

Actually, there is some good mule deer hunting in Texas (try Hunter Ross at Desert Safaris) or buy - at great expense - a land-owner tag in Utah or Nevada.

Again, I apologize. Good luck. AIU
29 May 2014, 07:14
sevenmagltd.
No problem. I have been putting in for 13B for the last number of years and an outfitter from AZ told me at DSC that it was impossible(140 years statistically) to draw. He recommended 12a west as easier to draw but i'm not sure of the quality.
I afraid I don't have many good years left in my legs to do a proper hunt. Frustrated as well!!
29 May 2014, 09:50
twoseventy
12a west is a very good unit. Use Duwayne Adams if you draw.

Tom


...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men.
-Edward, duke of York

". . . when a man has shot an elephant his life is full." ~John Alfred Jordan

"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero - 55 BC

"The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand

Cogito ergo venor- KPete

“It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages.”
― Adam Smith - “Wealth of Nations”
29 May 2014, 21:50
Ackley Improved User
This is the future of hunting in the USA (now 330 million people) - especially high-quality hunting. Either luck out on an extremely difficult-to-get tag or buy a land-owner tag and use an outfitter at great expense (i.e., a rich-man's sport).