An article in todays Bozeman Chronicle states that at the Request of MFW&P the seneate passed a bill to start hunting wolves and one Grizzly bear per year.Non-res wolf $350,no pricrs on Bear.w/regards

I wonder how much the Wyoming licenses will be..... oh wait... they don't want to remove the wolf from the ESL....bunny huggers!



IV

IdahoVandal I see nothing funny with seasons and units being closed in Wyoming because the Elk are taking a kicking from wolves. They never wanted the wolf the FEDS put them in the park and said that is where they would stay and we all know that is true. Always funny when it happens to someone else. Maybe one day one of your units you love to hunt will be closed in your own state for the same reason. Then we can all point and laugh. Grow up.

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I wonder how much the Wyoming licenses will be..... oh wait... they don't want to remove the wolf from the ESL....bunny huggers!

Ours will be free, buy an elk tag and get an unlimited wolf license. Wyoming doesn't want to cow/tow to the feds like caliidaho or montana! If Wyomings pending lawsuit wasn't worrying the feds, then why are the feds wanting to negotiate! Maybe the spuds and montana should have waited and sucked it up and stood thier ground! Maybe because of the kalifornisation of idaho???

No worry here, eddie and crew will have to stick their tail between their nuts(if they have any) and accept the judges ruleing!

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Originally posted by IdahoVandal:
I wonder how much the Wyoming licenses will be..... oh wait... they don't want to remove the wolf from the ESL....bunny huggers!



IV

I think that the problem lies with a few certain words/perceptions in Wyoming's plan. Predatory animal status just means that wolves "may" be shot, the press perceives these areas as "must" be shot.

Unfortunatley, I think Wyoming's plan is more than adequate. Trying to convince the USFWS of this (and their arsenal of biologists who probably have never been to Wyoming) is the tough part.

It will all work itself out in the end.

MG

I like the $19.00 tag, for Montana . Also just how hard are they to hunt, what are the best tactics, can you call them like coyotes,is baiting allowed? I have never been to Montana but would like to go sometime , Any help would be appreciated.

Rug, more than likely the hunts open to the public will be a year or more away. THat is the problem right now with Wyoming, the state wants some freedom to use state officers to kill packs that are decimating elk or other big game species in a given area, instead of the feds agreeing with Wyomings plan, then ok everything, and another year to two goes by with little or no control of packs that are affecting big game herds.


Basically the state and the feds have an agreed plan, but the feds will not allow any killing of wolf packs by state officials if big game herdsare being wiped out, as it is in some areas. It is protection for the states wildlife.

Pretty much the same latitude as the feds have when dealing with troublesome packs killing livestock.

Thats not good, hopefully more folks will try to convince the Feds to speed up the process. States have no rights ,only temporary laws, I just want to hunt.

Under Republican rule we have more rights and gained more rights. Clinton tried to attack the west, and take away states rights. Now we are back in the rule of the libs, we will see what the limp wrists will try to do to us now!

Gophershooter: That is great news about the $19.00 Wolf Tags - I can't wait!
I can't decide which Rifle to use on my first Montana Wolf Hunt!
Should I take my Remington 700 VLS in 260 Remington caliber or use my Remington XR-100 in 204 Ruger caliber?
It would be great to kill a Wolf with my one of my 204 Rugers and be the first to do so in Montana (legally)!
Those tags CAN NOT come soon enough for me!
My friend Ben and I went to Helena, Montana this past Wednesday (January 31st) as we travelled back home near the town of Boulder, Montana I spotted a large cow Elk on a bluff up ahead of us. We were on an icey part of the freeway and the two lanes in each direction were down to one slightly less icey "path"! As we got closer to the Elk on the bluff we could see that in fact the cow Elk was backed up to a cliff! And 3 (three!) Wolves were immediately in front of her! Snarling at her.
We had no firearms along and indeed could not have stopped on that curvy, icey part of I-15 anyway!
This was mid-day and in full view of the freeway!
Now I know this is what Wolves do naturally - but it still enrages me what these amazingly over-abundant predators have done to our Elk, Moose and Bighorn Sheep herds!
We have worked hard for decades increasing these game herds and a bunch of green thinking idiots from the usfws transplant more Wolves into the Rockies from Canada!
Then mandate that they be allowed to explode way past their own desired population!
It is just a direct assault on Big Game Hunters - nothing more nothing less!
I wonder if that cow Elk chose the cliff or the Wolves ate her right there on top that ledge?
If anyone passes milepost 151.8 on I-15 look west and see if the Ravens and Magpies are cleaning up an Elk carcass thereabouts.
Thanks for nothing rmWf!
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VarmintGuy

Go with the .260. Gut shoot the first 5 or 6, then get one for the wall.

Kudu56: I had not yet thought of that tactic!
"Your honor I am pretty sure my Rifles scope got fouled up and I uhh, accidentally shot every Wolf in that pack A LITTLE FAR BACK, uhh, accidentally"!
LOL!
Naw I better be on my best behavior for this Hunt - IF it ever gets underway?
Thats another thing to think about - should I get a rug made with the Wolf's hide or have it full body mounted?
Decisions, decisions.
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VarmintGuy

Definetly full body.....

IV

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Originally posted by kudu56:
Go with the .260. Gut shoot the first 5 or 6, then get one for the wall.

That sounds like the old days in Mn.

Full body or rug? TOugh choice, rugs take up lots of wall space, and a full body takes up lots of floor space! HMMMMMM, better shoot one there then one here, and do both!

You guys might want to get a tag before you put a down payment on the mount. With about 250-300 wolves, something tells me it's not going to be an over the counter, buy-as-many-tags-as-you-want type of deal.

Pretty soon we'll have a hunting season here in Michigan as well.

Gibson;I couldnt agree with you more.I think MTFW&P just wanted to get out in front bring on the lawsuits and when we can will be ahead of the greenies B.S.w/regards

Wyomings will be unlimited out side the feds proposed area. Maybe shoot on site, and within that area, trophy game with very liberal licenses and bag limits.

Idaho has changed there fees on wolves to $9.75 to match bear and mt lion.

Gibson: If you think there are only 200 to 300 Wolves here in the Rocky Mountains - you have ANOTHER think coming!
Even the Greens admit there are at least 1,250 (soon to be 1,500 with the spring whelping season soon to be here!) of these furry little Elk eaters amongst us!
Heres how things work in Montana for Bobcat and Mt. Lion - YES everyone CAN buy the proper licenses or tags!
THEN, we can ALL, go Hunting!
There are "quotas" set up in advance for each of the Game Management Units where a particular type of animal is Hunted.
These "quotas" are designed to prevent over-harvesting of said animals!
The status of the number of animals that have been harvested is available on-line and available via phone calls to our Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks Departments seven regional offices.
Once the areas quotas are met all Hunting stops!
We Hunters who have not harvested a Wolf then can make Wolf tag soup!
So yes, we can all buy the proper licenses and tags and we can all go Hunting (at least on opening day!!!) and I intend to do this very thing ASAP!
Good luck to you if you intend on Hunting Wolves back there in Michigan - or heck come on out to Idaho, Montana and/or Wyoming for a chance at a real "chubby" Wolf!
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VarmintGuy

Anyone know where I can get a call that wolves will respond to? Mark, what were you using when you called in those two packs?

I can hardly wait to hear the howl of wolves responding to my call as I put the cross hairs on the big one to fill my MT Wolf tag.

Snapper: I second your inquiry and will also purchase the "proper" type call once its brand and model is made known to me!
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VarmintGuy

VG

I'm guessing if we hunt near the park, they should come to a cow elk call.

I feel confident that a 85 grain sierra @3,500 fps should do the trick. I hope to be the first to post pictures here. Unless we hunt them together.

Snapper: Yes the cow Elk call should bring some curious predators to within Rifle range!
Also the fawn in distress call may work?
Being the true gentleman sportsman I try to be - I hope you get the first Montana Wolf to be harvested by a sport Hunter - and I hope I get a big Black one with a silver triangle throat patch! I have seen this Black Wolf twice now down in my neck 'o' the woods.
I think I better go with the 260 Remington and wonderfully accurate 100 Grain Nosler Ballistic Tips that my Rifle likes.
I have little "hope" for a Wolf Hunt in 2,007 but am confident that 2,008 will have me out in the wilds with Wolf Tag in hand!
We'll see.
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VarmintGuy

Varmint Guy,

I hope you get the first tag and I'm there to watch! Lets have a cup of coffee and talk about the hunt.

We can send Brent some pics with my cell phone.

VarmintGuy, I think you either have to re-read the title of this thread, or my post.

This is about the MONTANA wolf population, not the entire Rocky Mountains. Last I checked Rockey Mountains was not a state, and there was no collective government to issue tags.

Even if there are 1500 wolves, thats not enough to have unlimited, OTC tags.